My latest idea for a stadium on the BV site. I have lifted the plans to scale from NM and used them over the top of the BV site, they are fairly accurate and they fit quite well. So Yorkcourt give us the money. Basically it's nearly all covered and the blue bit is terrace the red seats. Kinda keeps the flow of the existing ground with the ability to move around a bit. i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99 ... WBV2HR.jpg

My latest idea for a stadium on the BV site. I have lifted the plans to scale from NM and used them over the top of the BV site, they are fairly accurate and they fit quite well. So Yorkcourt give us the money. Basically it's nearly all covered and the blue bit is terrace the red seats. Kinda keeps the flow of the existing ground with the ability to move around a bit. i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99 ... WBV2HR.jpg

It will do for me Vasty.

Why not

Quote ="vastman"My latest idea for a stadium on the BV site. I have lifted the plans to scale from NM and used them over the top of the BV site, they are fairly accurate and they fit quite well. So Yorkcourt give us the money. Basically it's nearly all covered and the blue bit is terrace the red seats. Kinda keeps the flow of the existing ground with the ability to move around a bit. i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99 ... WBV2HR.jpg'" You love it! Looks well. Hope to achieve some of that at least, if the decision is to remain at BV. Before anyone asks.... Meeting, meetings and more meetings. Sorry.

Quote ="vastman"My latest idea for a stadium on the BV site. I have lifted the plans to scale from NM and used them over the top of the BV site, they are fairly accurate and they fit quite well. So Yorkcourt give us the money. Basically it's nearly all covered and the blue bit is terrace the red seats. Kinda keeps the flow of the existing ground with the ability to move around a bit. i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99 ... WBV2HR.jpg'" You love it! Looks well. Hope to achieve some of that at least, if the decision is to remain at BV. Before anyone asks.... Meeting, meetings and more meetings. Sorry.

Looks great but, how many false dawns have we had.
Many fans have signed petitions, protested outside the town hall and been promised a shiny new stadium at Newmarket and/or a spruced up BV.
The only response that we can give is "i'll believe it when we play our first game there".

For me, the stadium issue has created more apathy than the boom 'n' bust over the last 10-15 years.

I don't want to "p" on your bonfire but the silence is deafening

Some real positive news could be the catalyst to increasing supporter numbers, which is critical to our future.

Don't get the point in your post, we all know that so how are you peeing on anyones bonfire, give it a rest you're not the oracle

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What do you suggest? We do nowt and don't dream, jeez man there is negative and then there is wallowing in it.

As for this thread it's an idea not a promise, don't want to give you false hope.

Chin up it's nearly 10 years since we started

Excellent work Vasty, like it

Wren cat, I totally agree with what you've said regards the cause of the apathy.

The sooner we knock down and rebuild one side of the stadium the better, I think it'll signal a significant upturn in interest within the City

Thanks for that Vasty, much appreciated.

The overlay of the stadium looks brilliant !!!!!!

Has Rodney got off his bike yet?

Quote ="vastman"My latest idea for a stadium on the BV site. I have lifted the plans to scale from NM and used them over the top of the BV site, they are fairly accurate and they fit quite well. So Yorkcourt give us the money. Basically it's nearly all covered and the blue bit is terrace the red seats. Kinda keeps the flow of the existing ground with the ability to move around a bit. i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99 ... WBV2HR.jpg'" Like it. Where can I get a large scale copy of your plans. Any idea on cost.

Quote ="vastman"My latest idea for a stadium on the BV site. I have lifted the plans to scale from NM and used them over the top of the BV site, they are fairly accurate and they fit quite well. So Yorkcourt give us the money. Basically it's nearly all covered and the blue bit is terrace the red seats. Kinda keeps the flow of the existing ground with the ability to move around a bit. i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99 ... WBV2HR.jpg'" Like it. Where can I get a large scale copy of your plans. Any idea on cost.

Another example of the voluntary talents on here, should the club come calling??
Nice work Vasty.

You've managed to Tarmac over a house Vasty.

You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

Yeah I know possibly being a bit optimistic that it may be part of any redevelopment (should it happen, that's for wren wink).

Yes indeed I'll e-mail you a PDF.

When you take the footprint of the present ground and superbowl together there is certainly enough land to build a very good facility and what you have produced clearly demonstrates this.
So if we assume the funding can be raised , another problem arises, how can it be built whilst we still play there?

The hardest part would be the Western Terrace because the only access would be over the ground itself. I would think that would have to be done first, then work backwards over the North terrace. Demolishing the East stand and replacing that would be the easiest bit logistically, but would have to come last.

Ideally it would be best to do it all at once rather than bits at a time, but what ever way you look at things I think it would be extremely difficult to do without having at least one season 'on the road' somewhere else.

Could play at Oakwell for a season

Yup.

IMHO it would be a fantastic ground, a real RL ground but modern and reflecting the summer game. I have a feeling it would very quickly establish itself as most other fans favourite away ground which in itself is a revenue earner.

Logically the best way to do it would a one season hit funds allowing. I think a few big matches at Barnsley for demo purposes would be ideal but personally I'd rather keep whatever cash we have to pay out within the game making Featherstone the best alternative should they agree. I also think the RFL should help with the cost of the Barnsley as they would definitely fall under developing the game.

We may assuming Fev are still a Championship team be able to pay part of any rent in kind by permanently loaning them some players for the season again assuming they wanted any.

Finally the west terrace is bigger than most people think and you could actually fit a smaller version of the stand thats built into the side of the banking at Hudds (opposite main stand) that has access from under the stand. However this is more expensive and not needed in the summer game IMHO. Im also trying to create with the west terrace a BV equivalent of the grass bankings you used to get at NRL grounds, although in our case it would be concrete terracing. I see only the central area covered with the rest open where folk can stand in the sun enjoying a beer purchased from one of the bars in the paved areas either side. Perhaps a little landscaping as well to give a park feel now would''t that be a nice way to treat paint customers. Basically a very informal area where people can mingle and move about, or a nicer version of what's already there.

Me personally would not like to give foot all RL money, I 'd rather it go to Cas! than football.

I thought it was dark this morning

The Western Terrace is the most immediate concern, although access is tight the easiest way would be demolishing the whole terrace, reusing the crushed concrete as a suitable base then bringing a crane via from Anderton Street / Arthur Street onto the footprint of the WT, starting from the south west (chav) corner then working northward. A retaining wall will be needed along dog poo alley.

If we want to be radical, you could wipe out the whole superbowl area, turn the pitch 90 degrees and move it east slightly to give more room for the Western terrace to be a decent stand behind the posts.
That would give lots of room down the sides for parking, hospitality, main entrance

Of course that woud cost a lot and would take more than a season away from Belle Vue.

But that's effectively what Widnes did.
Their ground wasn't that different to ours now.

Yep, but cost wise that's really expensive - would require new drains and power cables etc. At least by using the existing footprint you should avoid this - especially as the South stand is effectively cleared and there is very little to demolish on the west terrace. Naughton Park had silly little stands all over the place and effectively required a full demolition and clearance.

Also where possible I'd like to keep the trees near the ground which gives it that established feel.

Over all it's all about money and so far we have none.

I mocked this up a while back, it’s the LSV plonked on the footprint of BV to scale. It broadly fits with the exception of the WT but as per vastman’s plan this could be a reduced width terrace