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| I apologise if this has already been mentioned but they are saying Newmarket May not happen and we are staying at Bellevue.
Anybody heard anything ???
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| Quote ="Disney cat"I apologise if this has already been mentioned but they are saying Newmarket May not happen and we are staying at Bellevue.
Anybody heard anything ???'"
I'm sure Daddycool will put us right regarding this news.
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| I thought the planning permission for the warehouses depended on building a ground for WTW? or is it just we have a ground to play in?
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| [urlhttp://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/local-news/exclusive-wakefield-wildcats-plan-to-stay-at-belle-vue-1-6592371#.U2J_JNzjZUI.twitter[/url
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| Quote “The developer and club are happy with either, but on balance it was agreed we could make progress more quickly on a complete redevelopment of Belle Vue.”'" why would progress be more quicker on a redvelopment of Belle Vue when it would need to go through the planning process AGAIN...
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| Ah well I always thought NM was a little too far out of town. Such a shame all that time and effort has been gone to waste.
Many questions come to mind. Are the club buying back BV? Where are they likely to pull £10m out of? Planning will be difficult to obtain given the surroundings. I don't see anything happening in the next five years?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Ah well I always thought NM was a little too far out of town. Such a shame all that time and effort has been gone to waste.
Many questions come to mind. Are the club buying back BV? Where are they likely to pull £10m out of? Planning will be difficult to obtain given the surroundings. I don't see anything happening in the next five years?'"
I would imagine Yorkcourt have to provide us with a stadium fit for purpose inline with the planning permission on the warehousing which IS going ahead, so they will have to pay for it??
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| It's OK upgrading Belle Vue stadium but what about all the other facilities, training ground etc
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"I would imagine Yorkcourt have to provide us with a stadium fit for purpose inline with the planning permission on the warehousing which IS going ahead, so they will have to pay for it??'"
I would hope this is so. Hope that some of the money goes to buying back belle vue or at least a very long lease on a cheap rent. Could work out better than newmarket but like some one else has posted its been a lot of wasted time and money. A bit like the original glass houghton plans.
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| Wow, this thread’s going to run & run!
Looking forward to seeing the new proposals, I never wanted to move to a new development.
I just hope its fit for purpose in the 21st century, not a Glover style bodge.
There’s plenty of room on three sides, not sure about the western terrace though.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"I would hope this is so. Hope that some of the money goes to buying back belle vue or at least a very long lease on a cheap rent. Could work out better than newmarket but like some one else has posted its been a lot of wasted time and money. A bit like the original glass houghton plans.'"
Not really, without the hard work and campaigning we would of never got to this stage. It's all linked it seems. I await the details.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Wow, this thread’s going to run & run!
Looking forward to seeing the new proposals, I never wanted to move to a new development.
I just hope its fit for purpose in the 21st century, not a Glover style bodge.
There’s plenty of room on three sides, not sure about the western terrace though.'"
I agree and hope something actually happens that means we have a 21st century ground!! fed up of plans and drawings!!
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| At the very least Id expect York Court to build one grandstand in the next two years then develop the rest of the stadium over the next five years.
A big full length of the pitch stand on the West terrace with corporate and supporters facilities would hugely improve BV and would also give us some credibility with the sceptics who no doubt will be out in force again.
There's no reason why we can't do what Widnes did to Naughton Park
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| Any indication of when these proposals will be made available to the public?
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| Can you all remember that first meeting with MC & he asked for a show of hands as to who would like to stay at BV ?
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Wow, this thread’s going to run & run!
Looking forward to seeing the new proposals, I never wanted to move to a new development.
I just hope its fit for purpose in the 21st century, not a Glover style bodge.
There’s plenty of room on three sides, not sure about the western terrace though.'"
I'd say there's about 10m -15m from pitch edge to the external boundary of the Western Terrace. A simple, slender, steep sided, full length standing terrace should fit. Hopefully the old West Stand sets the precedence for elevation.
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| We've been strung along with delay after delay, proposed opening dates going back to 2012 all the way through to 2016 and now this.
York Court got their planning permission based on the provision of Community facilities, we were told that Colin Mackey was an honourable man and would uphold his side of the deal. We'll get your hand in your pocket and build at least one major grandstand at Belle Vue almost immediately because this is beginning to look like a stitch up.
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| Will post more later - we were not aware that this was going out!
We can confirm that discussions are ongoing and they very much involve Yorkcourt.
The extent of the work etc is all yet to be worked through - if indeed this is the end result.
There is a limit to what we can report of course, but IA and the others involved will try and answer where we can.
Funny old day!
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| Quote ="Disney cat"I apologise if this has already been mentioned but they are saying Newmarket May not happen and we are staying at Bellevue.
Anybody heard anything ???'" Quelle Surprise
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| Don't know which way to think about this.
If a magic wand could be waved and Belle Vue be as good (or Better) than Widnes'
stadium, that would be great.
But, as always, we go back to square one.
I guess we have to wait and see just what the proposals are but, whatever happens, the developers at Newmarket will do very nicely, having secured a major chunk of land on the back of a stadium build application ???
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| Quote ="TRB"Will post more later - we were not aware that this was going out!
We can confirm that discussions are ongoing and they very much involve Yorkcourt.
The extent of the work etc is all yet to be worked through - if indeed this is the end result.
There is a limit to what we can report of course, but IA and the others involved will try and answer where we can.
Funny old day!'"
No disrespect, but unless it's concrete don't bother!
Sick to the back teeth of the cloak and dagger nature of all this where some can know but others can't, it's plans for a rugby stadium for Christ's sake not MI6. false statements and lack of movement, excuse after excuse for nothing happening.
It's not a pop at you TRB but I'm fed up of it all!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"We've been strung along with delay after delay, proposed opening dates going back to 2012 all the way through to 2016 and now this.
York Court got their planning permission based on the provision of Community facilities, we were told that Colin Mackey was an honourable man and would uphold his side of the deal. We'll get your hand in your pocket and build at least one major grandstand at Belle Vue almost immediately because this is beginning to look like a stitch up.'"
Well...a suspicious man might think that tagging a community stadium proposal onto a great fat business park proposal might just have been a way of pulling the wool over everybody's eyes and getting it though planning. A suspicious man might have thought that Newmarket Stadium was never going to get built in a million years (as some may have said on here for about 4 years) and the incredible length of time involved was all part of a plan cooked up behind closed doors between several 'stakeholders' as they like to say these days. A suspicious man might think that the fans of Wakefield Trinity and the people of Wakefield have been lied to and hoodwinked, yet again. I, of course, am not a suspicious man....
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Well...a suspicious man might think that tagging a community stadium proposal onto a great fat business park proposal might just have been a way of pulling the wool over everybody's eyes and getting it though planning. A suspicious man might have thought that Newmarket Stadium was never going to get built in a million years (as some may have said on here for about 4 years) and the incredible length of time involved was all part of a plan cooked up behind closed doors between several 'stakeholders' as they like to say these days. A suspicious man might think that the fans of Wakefield Trinity and the people of Wakefield have been lied to and hoodwinked, yet again. I, of course, am not a suspicious man....
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I am,
If I remember correctly the original plan called for the stadium to be built first, it starts to make sense now why YCP fought so hard for the clause about building and occupying a large amount of the warehousing before even putting a spade in the ground for the stadium.
It's starting to look like they knew from the outset that they weren't going to build it at all
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| Quote ="The Avenger"No disrespect, but unless it's concrete don't bother!
Sick to the back teeth of the cloak and dagger nature of all this where some can know but others can't, it's plans for a rugby stadium for Christ's sake not MI6. false statements and lack of movement, excuse after excuse for nothing happening.
It's not a pop at you TRB but I'm fed up of it all!'"
This, its just crap after crap all round, dont know another set of fans that go through this rubbish year after year
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| Totally disillusioned.
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