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They will probably get 2 points back bit it's up to us to sort ourselves out rather than worrying about Bradford

agree on that

They were always going to appeal, whether they are successful or not depends on whether the new owners have agreed to pay back some or all of the debts. The administrators report doesn't give the impression that any agreement was in place to pay many (if any) back, and that includes the HMRC which the RFL are a little twitchy about. But given the one of the major creditors has actually bought the club and as such probably written off a chunk of the debt then i'd suggest they will get at least two points back. The way we are going, and with a trip to Bradford to come, the outcome of the appeal could make the difference.

Looks like Agar might need a Plan B.

Our destiny is in our hands, this squad is good enough to stay up.
We are still in a decent position to stay up, even if the bulls get some points back.

A few more heavy losses in a row though and we will be in a very precarious position ....

Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Looks like Agar might need a Plan B.'" Having just read the Riley YEP interview I get the impression Agar may not have much time left to get Plan A in gear nevermind Plan B. Then again that might be just wishful thinking and reading too much into the part where Riley said Agar needs to be given more time put things right (not an accurate quote, but close enough) m.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/spo ... witterfeed

Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Looks like Agar might need a Plan B.'" Having just read the Riley YEP interview I get the impression Agar may not have much time left to get Plan A in gear nevermind Plan B. Then again that might be just wishful thinking and reading too much into the part where Riley said Agar needs to be given more time put things right (not an accurate quote, but close enough) m.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/spo ... witterfeed

Quote ="trinfan71"Having just read the Riley YEP interview I get the impression Agar may not have much time left to get Plan A in gear nevermind Plan B. Then again that might be just wishful thinking and reading too much into the part where Riley said Agar needs to be given more time put things right (not an accurate quote, but close enough) m.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/spo ... witterfeed'" Not quite. Riley said: "Richard Agar is a great coach and he needs to be given time to make the squad click together. Hopefully he will do that." That's fair comment, players coming in all the time means the squad hasn't gelled as it should have. Too much is being read in to losing twice to Leeds, the defeat at Hull KR was far worse because that was a winnable game, not one to get battered in.

Quote ="trinfan71"Having just read the Riley YEP interview I get the impression Agar may not have much time left to get Plan A in gear nevermind Plan B. Then again that might be just wishful thinking and reading too much into the part where Riley said Agar needs to be given more time put things right (not an accurate quote, but close enough) m.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/spo ... witterfeed'" Not quite. Riley said: "Richard Agar is a great coach and he needs to be given time to make the squad click together. Hopefully he will do that." That's fair comment, players coming in all the time means the squad hasn't gelled as it should have. Too much is being read in to losing twice to Leeds, the defeat at Hull KR was far worse because that was a winnable game, not one to get battered in.

I expect -6 to become -4 putting the bulls on 0 points. Can't see any other outcome.

I suggest Agar's Plan A is hope London and Bradford just keep losing!

That leaves us with plan B, could be hoping for another "big bang" or a alien invasion.

Id try the "win some games" plan.

As a bradford fan its hard to fault the logic of that plan A at the moment tbf!

On the points appeal, most Bulls fans (me included) are not expecting anything back, but would be pleasantly surprised to get 2 back so at least we get back onto zero. But whatever they do, they need to do it quick so we can continue the rest of the season trying to sort the relegation battle out on the pitch.

Quote ="trinfan71"Having just read the Riley YEP interview I get the impression Agar may not have much time left to get Plan A in gear nevermind Plan B. Then again that might be just wishful thinking and reading too much into the part where Riley said Agar needs to be given more time put things right (not an accurate quote, but close enough) m.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/spo ... witterfeed'" I don't get that from the report at all.

Quote ="trinfan71"Having just read the Riley YEP interview I get the impression Agar may not have much time left to get Plan A in gear nevermind Plan B. Then again that might be just wishful thinking and reading too much into the part where Riley said Agar needs to be given more time put things right (not an accurate quote, but close enough) m.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/spo ... witterfeed'" I don't get that from the report at all.

Always was a possibility they would get some points back so what we should not be reliant on them not getting them back we should be going out to win the rest will take care of its self.

This comment is directed more at the RFL than the Bradford Bulls.

I remember the RFL saying last year that they will be less tolerant of financial mismanagement and would be harsher on clubs who went into administration.

Also if rumours are true that we were told we would be immediately demoted if we went into administration then it would appear the Bulls have received favourable treatment as it is.

The little spat and threat of legal action between the Bulls and the RFL about a month ago was also interesting. The RFL said in their statement that 2 clubs other than Bradford were in dire straits (I strongly suspect it was ourselves and London they were referring to) yet they managed to sort themselves out financially.

As I say nothing against the Bulls. However if they are given back some points then the RFL is spineless and inconsistent.

Neither do I. I didn't post that, my idiot Leeds fan mate thought it would be a laugh to use my phone to post it.

I thought it showed that everyone is aware of what needs fixing and that there is a confidence that things will begin to fall into place.

It said on sky sports news that Bradford hoped to win their appeal on the grounds that going into adminstration was 'unforseen' and 'unavoidable", if thats their case for appealing they have had it!!!

The appeal is an independent panel (though who picks this panel I'm unsure of) and is suppose to include a barrister, insolvency practitioner and 1 other. So not the RFL's decision to make.

You give Agar far too much credit; he couldn't possibly have thought that up all on his own.

I think the decision will be delayed for a couple of months, followed by Bradford getting 4 points back.

I hope you're wrong, I don't think that is in anyone's interest. The RFL press release seemed to suggest that the appeal will be heard as soon as practicably possible.

Could they get points back based on the fact Mark Green has cleared what was some of the outstanding debt prior to admin? Didn't we get less points deduction because of this??
In which case he could pay himself what the club owed him?? Was it 250k??

no the scripts been written

When the 6 points was announced, many people expected Bradford to come out of admin (new owner) and have the deduction reduced.
However, where their situation differs greatly from other clubs who have run out of cash (including ourselves), is that they have been on life support for over 6 months and have been lucky to "stay alive" to start the season and complete their first 6/7 fixtures.
Most supporters are pleased that they have come through the other side but, IF points were deducted for "bringing the game into disrepute" for financial reasons (IIRC, a phrase used by the RFL), then surely, they cant reverse this ?

Just been announced on Boots an all if Bradford get points back Michael Carter is walking away from our club and the game....interesting