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| I was asked a question if we are relegated with the reduced funding and status, does the developer have a clause relating to the league we are in and I guess will we be able to afford the rent. The other question what would stop Castleford taking over the stadium if they are in SL. This is just a question which I am sure one of you will have the answer to.
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| All the more reason to get it signed off ASAP we keep hearing about all the hard work going on behind the scenes so hopefully the deal will be done soon while we are a SL club
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"I was asked a question if we are relegated with the reduced funding and status, does the developer have a clause relating to the league we are in and I guess will we be able to afford the rent. The other question what would stop Castleford taking over the stadium if they are in SL. This is just a question which I am sure one of you will have the answer to.'"
The developer has signed a statutory agreement with the council not the club, the rent will be set by the WDCT. I'm guessing the developer probably doesn't care about what league Trinity are in as its irrelevant to them. No doubt a smaller crowd and reduced funding would increase the challenge to make it financially viable.
Castleford will never consider Newmarket, their supporters would not accept it.
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| So we could end up relying on the council to decide who they feel are most suitable and in a better position to pay along with the Castleford fans would never agree to the move. It was not what I expected our position is somewhat weak but if that is the situation so be it.
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| Regardless of all the points raised by the OP WTW would be the Anchor tenants therefore would still be playing out of Newmarket, the only reason that would change would be if WTW decided to pull out of the deal
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"So we could end up relying on the council to decide who they feel are most suitable and in a better position to pay along with the Castleford fans would never agree to the move. It was not what I expected our position is somewhat weak but if that is the situation so be it.'"
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| How do you block this bell end?
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| Whilst his questions are pertinent ones there are only two or three posters on here that can turn possible positives into probable negatives!
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"How do you block this bell end?'"
So eloquent your teachers must be proud. I asked a question and I accepted the answer. I guess either you are either over protective or just don't understand why these questions need to be asked. I would remind you that every action taking by the board could result in various scenarios for the club including the loss of SL status which in turn will produce will produce it own scenarios.
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| I suppose if Wildcats won every trophy going next year Agent XIII would still be on here moaning away.
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| The initial size & scale of the stadium is dependant on whether we are in superleague or not. If we want the 12-15K version we HAVE to be in the top league to justify and obtain the council & grant funding (amongst other things) and income from areas like sponsorship to pay for its running costs to be maximised by having top level exposure.
Relegation will leave a scenario of at best a smaller-sized stadium or at worst no stadium at all for an awful long time. Anything we do that makes dropping out of SL more likely is a suicidal move.
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| Quote ="sixtogo"The initial size & scale of the stadium is dependant on whether we are in superleague or not. If we want the 12-15K version we HAVE to be in the top league to justify and obtain the council & grant funding (amongst other things) and income from areas like sponsorship to pay for its running costs to be maximised by having top level exposure.Relegation will leave a scenario of at best a smaller-sized stadium or at worst no stadium at all for an awful long time. Anything we do that makes dropping out of SL more likely is a suicidal move.'"
Where exactly can I find confirmation of this?
It's a community stadium being built for the Wakefield community, not a SL stadium for WTW.
WTW with be the anchor tenants, there is a possibility that other sporting teams will be secondary tenants on the complex as the stadium isn't the only thing being built, there will be other sporting/training & educational facilities on the site.
May I respectfully request that you check facts before posting inaccuracies such as this. HTH
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| Quote ="financialtimes"Where exactly can I find confirmation of this?
It's a community stadium being built for the Wakefield community, not a SL stadium for WTW.
WTW with be the anchor tenants, there is a possibility that other sporting teams will be secondary tenants on the complex as the stadium isn't the only thing being built, there will be other sporting/training & educational facilities on the site.
May I respectfully request that you check facts before posting inaccuracies such as this. HTH
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As you obviously have no idea about how the funding for the project works let me explain. Trust me it is an area I have knowledge in.
It is a community stadium being partly built with grant funding and every penny of this funding had to be fully justified to be obtained. Every single extra seat built into the stadium has a cost, as such the capacity of the build has to be justified in projected usage. As the main tenants our needs hold a lot of weight. If the projections state an expected superleague average of 10k+ (which with our recent rises in attendance and other teams large followings would be the case) then grants for the full size stadium can be justified and are likely to be awarded.
Should estimates be based on championship attendances of 3k+ then grants for the full size stadium cannot be justified by the awarding bodies and will be turned down in favour of a smaller build that could in theory be extended at a later date.
The stadium company also have to submit a business plan to prove it can run it as a going concern and as anchor tenants we are central to that plan. Now all our applications have gone in with superleague income projections so we need that situation to remain the case until at the very least the grants are awarded and building commences otherwise we would have to re-apply and that would cause a whole world of problems. The education facilities and gym can still be built in a smaller capicity stadium providing their necessity can be proven .
So in short we could really do with being in superleague if we want the full size stdium straight away otherwise it would highly likely be a smaller project. These things are a complicated myriad of tall fences and pitfalls, hence why they take so long to come to fruition. But ultimately, like most things, it comes down to brass.
HTH.
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| Quote ="financialtimes"Where exactly can I find confirmation of this?
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So I take t you can't
For someone who begs for trust as "it is an area you have knowledge in" you have not shown me any confirmation.
Shame as your posts seem constructed well, just lacking in that crucial area of actual and factual detail
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| Ha ha love a good argument.
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| Quote ="sixtogo"I'm not begging for anything, it's no skin off my nose if you want to keep your head buried in the sand. There are application forms online, waste your own time getting your confirmation if you wish, i've better things to do with my time than appease you[u. I'll not bother contributing to this forum again, its not worth the hassle.[/u'"
Now we're talking! Who's next to follow in his shoes?
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| Quote ="sixtogo"I'm not begging for anything, it's no skin off my nose if you want to keep your head buried in the sand. There are application forms online, waste your own time getting your confirmation if you wish, i've better things to do with my time than appease you. I'll not bother contributing to this forum again, its not worth the hassle.'"
Don't be daft i like to read you're posts.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Now we're talking! Who's next to follow in his shoes?
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Be careful what you wish for Jinjer, we could end up with a “Nutjobesque” type forum where you must toe the party line or be castigated by rose tinted raving sticks.
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| Quote ="sixtogo" I'll not bother contributing to this forum again, its not worth the hassle.'"
So that's a no then
Bye and don't let the door and all that
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"The developer has signed a statutory agreement with the council not the club, the rent will be set by the WDCT. I'm guessing the developer probably doesn't care about what league Trinity are in as its irrelevant to them. No doubt a smaller crowd and reduced funding would increase the challenge to make it financially viable.
Castleford will never consider Newmarket, their supporters would not accept it.'"
So it will be a council ' Facility ' ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"So it will be a council ' Facility ' ?'"
Go on, tell us again how it will never work.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Go on, tell us again how it will never work.
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Never said it wont work, just how much extra work is needed to make it work
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Be careful what you wish for Jinjer, we could end up with a “Nutjobesque” type forum where you must toe the party line or be castigated by rose tinted raving sticks.'"
Fair to say the quality this forum has followed the path of the club in recent times and has headed down the swanny. Its a case of woe betide anyone who doesn't toe the party line and it's getting very tiresome.
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| Well we are a SL club and we are a SL club next year so it will be sorted surely funding can't be affected for what might happen. Plus heard SL clubs are wanting increase minimum standards as part of SL restructure so NM is more important than ever.
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