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| I'd absolutely love to see a successful club in London, a club with a large following, a club competing for honours, a team with local produced players flourishing.
That said, they're getting an absolute hammering against Wigan in the Semi-Final and after seeing the body language of the players at HT they look like a set of players who have little passion or enthusiasm for the game. Such a shame, but the club has been run terribly, moved around and struggled year on year.
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| Not that it would've made much diffetence but this should've been held in London.
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| A great advert for a 12 team SL, skewed slightly because they shouldn't have been in SL for a number of years.
I would gladly offer my support of a successful London side, but that has never been the case.
If today's game was the grand national and the ref a vet; they would be pulling some screens around the lame bronco and their would be a single shot!!!
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"I'd absolutely love to see a successful club in London, a club with a large following, a club competing for honours, a team with local produced players flourishing.
That said, they're getting an absolute hammering against Wigan in the Semi-Final and after seeing the body language of the players at HT they look like a set of players who have little passion or enthusiasm for the game. Such a shame, but the club has been run terribly, moved around and struggled year on year.'"
Wakey 16s would have put up a better show,utter rubbish,get shut of them.
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| Keep them in. On that form a must to be relegated next season. Cant see the having wholesale changes next year, so one place already booked for SL2 or what ever.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Wakey 16s would have put up a better show,utter rubbish,get shut of them.
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bit harsh bit their heads went down after 18-0
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| Did anyone stay awake long enough to see Tony Rea thow a sneaky two fingers up on the screen, can't say i blame him and it was cleverly done.
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| It was a sneaky "peter kay-esque" number if I recall Al!!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"It was a sneaky "peter kay-esque" number if I recall Al!!'"
my thoughts too
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| Quite a few Aussie has-beens are taking them for an absolute ride - Shane Rodney being a prime example; no effort, total lack of any pride in the shirt and an absolute refusal to even do the basics.
That aside, the club itself is run in a completely amateurish way - if I were David Hughes, I'd have walked out at half time and closed the bank account; it's not for me - I'm out!
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| Quote ="bren2k"Quite a few Aussie has-beens are taking them for an absolute ride - Shane Rodney being a prime example; no effort, total lack of any pride in the shirt and an absolute refusal to even do the basics.
That aside, the club itself is run in a completely amateurish way - if I were David Hughes, I'd have walked out at half time and closed the bank account; it's not for me - I'm out!'"
Hopefully this is the death knell for what has been a painfully exploitive experiment by the RFL.
It begs the question what's been in it for these wealthy backers to throw their money down into this bottomless pit?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Hopefully this is the death knell for what has been a painfully exploitive experiment by the RFL.'"
Hopefully just for this iteration of the club - I'd like to see a successful London team in SL.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Hopefully just for this iteration of the club - I'd like to see a successful London team in SL.'"
So would I, I just don't think the level of success warrants SL just yet.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"So would I, I just don't think the level of success warrants SL just yet.'"
Catch 22 though because without SL will be much harder to increase crowds and any chance of sustainability.
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| I wonder how many new fans the game has "found" on the strength of that game.
Apart from the first 10-15 mins London were woeful and they will be doing well to muster any further SL wins.
They have managed to avoid the wooden spoon whilst in SL but, their name is already being carved into the trophy.
However, the grassroots game is growing well down there and it's important that this continues to develop, somehow.
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| Quote ="Schunter"Catch 22 though because without SL will be much harder to increase crowds and any chance of sustainability.'"
Crowd growth has proven to be impossible in SL too, so I don't see it as much of a loss.
They'll find their level and develop from there over many years like every other club has to.
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| They'd be better served winding it up and using the central money to fund several lower league teams in various London locations; let them grow in an organic way, exploiting the grass-roots development that has undoubtedly happened and find their own way into the top flight at a time that is right for the individual clubs. As a governing body, I'd keep a light touch involvement with all such clubs, to safeguard the use of central funds and make sure the clubs in question were being properly run. With the right vision and strategy, RL in London & SE could be huge - never the force that football is, but big enough.
As it stands, they've demonstrated that hot-housing a team into the top flight simply doesn't work.
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| I'd absolutely love to see this club kicked down to Championship 2, there has been too much time / money wasted on something that 99% of the rest of anyone who has any involvement in RL, has known would never be a success.
Londoners are not interested and apart from a very small minority, never will be.
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| I wonder what Eddie & Stevo will say on Thurs at the London Leeds game, they've been quick to slag Shudds recently over low attendances. This game unlikely to have more than 1,500 to 1,700 there.
But they probably won't even mention it
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| Quote ="metallicat"Londoners are not interested and apart from a very small minority, never will be.'"
I think it's truer to say that they don't know if they're interested, because very few people even know it exists; that's because the marketing and supporter engagement activities of the Broncos is pitiful.
Huge market in London and SE and you only need to get hold of a tiny fraction of it to make a club viable.
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| The problem is the club needs an identity. As Fulham they had that and historic attendances were better. They need to based one London borough and stick with it. While the club has no identity it cannot build a steady loyal fan base. I realise Catalan is a generic region name but the club is based in a Rugby League region. As they currently stand they are a bottomless pit financially. They ideally need to drop down a division stop relying on too much an Aussie input build their identity and start getting London based lads playing at a professional level where they can build their skill levels and be competitive. They would have more 'derby' fixtures against the likes of Hemel, Skolars, Gloucester and to some extent Oxford.
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| Get rid of London and Catalan keep t in m62 corridor never going to be as big as every body thinks lets look after the grass roots and build from there I no this is negative but after all this time it's never going to work. And I know Catalan get good crowds at home but what do they bring over here too far away
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| you know, I came and watched you guys play Hemel Stags in the fourth round. And it's always the same story. The guys came, REALLY had a go, dug in for the first 20 til the pace got a bit much, and the ends of both halves saw the floodgates open.
It's the same with any club like that, and to be honest it's absolutely fine to see - they gave it their all but were never ever going to be good enough.
I couldn't have slept saturday night if I were the London players. How they DARE to go on a field, in front of their fans who have spent heavily on supporting them that day (whether it was 1 fan or 1 million fans, it's the principal) and not even try, is disgusting. It's a disgrace to the club, theirselves, their fans, and the Challenge Cup.
it's not like these are "bad players" they are professionals, all of which are playing top level, and some of which are internationals.
If anybody thinks they gave ONE OUNCE of effort, they need to get their heads out their backsides.
Cause I know if I had to get a team out of the pub to go and play against wigan, I know for a fact we wouldn't embarass ourselves the way they did.
I still haven't calmed down all weekend over this. Those "players" are an absolute disgrace to rugby league and sport in general. I spent some of sunday watching the paralympic anniversary games..... Consider the two, if you will.
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| Is Shane Rodney the biggest conman in SL ? (Nigel Wood excluded).
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| Quote ="altofts cat"Get rid of London and Catalan keep t in m62 corridor never going to be as big as every body thinks lets look after the grass roots and build from there I no this is negative but after all this time it's never going to work. And I know Catalan get good crowds at home but what do they bring over here too far away'"
Great theory Altofts but, that would mean reverting to semi pro or even amateur status and there wouldn't be any RL on tv.
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