When Richard Agar was at Hull I'm sure you are aware he took alot of stick from the Hull fans. Personally I thought he was treat a little bit harshly. I just thought the job was too big for him at that stage in his career, but felt that given time at the right club he still had the makings of a decent coach.

He has been in charge for nearly a season now so I was just interested to hear what you guys have made of him. You seem to have had some decent results and are usually competetive.

I was opposed to him coming in, but was initially happy with how the team were performing, if not the results. The play was expansive and I thought Trinity were playing some good stuff. Granted things needed to improve but it looked like the team was going in the right direction.

However, over the last 3 months the team, IMO, has gradually got worse performance wise and his team and bench selections are puzzling. He does seem to be overly loyal to a set group of players with others not really getting their chance, Kyle Wood/Andy Ellis being the prime examples. Second half performances are consistently worse than the first half so I his ability to motivate the team is in question.

Wouldn’t be disappointed if he was replaced next year, but the key would be with who.

not done an awful job, but i was expecting the team to have done a little better. Some games/players have been frustrating. Recruitment was as well as could be expected with the timescale the club had. Next season will be the one I judge on, when he has recruited some of his own guys and got rid of some of those he doesnt want.

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Half term report 6 1/2 out of 10, could do better.
As has been said, better things were expected from the group of players that started the season.
IMO, he seems to have an opinion of where we whould be as a team 9th/10th and with the exception of beating Catalan at home, we
have not been good enough to beat any of the top 8 teams and there seems to be an acceptance of this.
Not a guy to rally the troops in adversity or inspire them to run through brick walls.

We would have beaten Wire if not for Halibut, and had a good go at the KC and should have beaten Leeds in a points fest. I was more annoyed with the displays against London and Cas.

my lad plays for eastmoor u 8's and i wouldnt want him coaching them,the guy is a imposter as he certainly isnt a rl coach.if anyone fancies a game just try and get in his good books cos i think that what he picks his team on,ie wood plays ellis dont

I'm in the 6 1/2 out of 10 camp.
He has had moments, but could do a lot better.

The difference for me is I still think we can do better under him. I'm all for consistency at the club and want to give him another season before I pull the plug.
Appointing and sacking coaches has hurt us in the past when leave things alone would have helped more. I want to give that a go myself and at the moment that is Agar.

Totally agree.
We have to accept that, despite many people wanting different people to coach our team, given where we were at the time, which top coach would have picked Trin ahead of any other SL club ?
In a couple of years time we should have N/M on the near horizon, more stability at the club and hopefully then, if Agar hasn't performed (ie top

, then we will have plenty to offer as a club.

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Yes this, like you said above we could have quiet easily have had another 4 or 5 wins but for a call her and there, the Warrington game the most obvious one but also, Leeds, Hull, Hull KR and Bradford and that would put a different reflection on the season. The biggest downer performances were the Bradford home one, the London away game followed by the Cas home game, those 3 ed me off no end.

Not good enough to be a top level coach. All this talk about about having a few more wins on the board, no one mentions the games against hull and Salford which we could easily have lost.

We cant defend thats for sure and with this set of players should have had more wins.Like him or not hes got another 2 years left on his contract after this season and you can bet your life he will see it out just like he did at Hull even in the face of loads of abuse.Dont think he has it to be honest and by the looks of things couldnt put fire in a well lit BBQ.Do I think we can do better than Agar has us doing a big yes but get used to the idea of him as our coach and the down turn in attendance.

Told buy a first team member that Agar was like a horse in foal with Washbrook and Wood when he first arrived, and also the same two sat on his table while eating at the club after training laughing at Agar's poor jokes, I will also say Wakefield had 3 far better players in the squad in Ellis, Wildie and Moore ? Kyle Wood could not kick a barn door, his defence is weak, and offers nothing in creativity ? Ask his former 6 clubs who released him, Wakefield acadamy, Doncaster, Batley, Cas, Sheffield, Hudds, WHY does this clown Agar play him, and WHY would Nathan Brown at Hudds give him away for nothing, It beggars belief !!!

Still prepared to consider that the squad is a bit "thrown together" and would be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt until after some off-season recruitment. I am more bothered about how far off the eight we are than the actual league position number. If we are nowhere near the eight this time next year, he's done for me.

Must admit I expected better with the players we have, we just don't learn from our mistakes, week by week it's the same old,same old.

Don't know any details but from the outside the Ellis affair leaves a bitter taste with me, the lad just has not had a fair crack ( Wood must be some player)

Just like a lot on here, Agar would not have been my choice, especially on a 3 year contract, BUT we have him now and like Slugger says we have to make the eight next season for him to continue.

For me we are underachieving and much of it can be layed at Agars door. Baffling team selections and use of interchanges, a reluctance to play a forth prop preferring to play a guy out of position, an inability to improve a porous defence, terrible 2nd half tactics, the list goes on.

Yes we are stuck with him and yes he probably deserves a chance to prove himself next year but i'm afraid i don't have much confidence in his ability to improve matters. That said i'd love him to prove me wrong.

Yeah I don't think it would be fair to start calling for his head until he's had the opportunity to sign some players of his own. We do have some good individuals in the team, but if you look at the teams around us then you could argue that they all have similar squads and nowhere near competing for the top 8, like ourselves.

I quite like him as a bloke and hope he can be the one to lead us to bigger things... (next year!!)

Unfortunately we can do nothing about Agar other than keep giving the club our opinions via these messageboards and letters to the club/media. Just keep counting the days down and hope Glover doesn't listen to Elston when Agar requests a contract extension.

Presume that the next big stink will be when Agar releases Ellis but keeps Wood or transfers Walshaw but keeps Mellars?

He obviously has many skills but he is not a Super League coach. But to be fair some of his team should also take a kicking as well. Is the condition of the players as good as it could be to sustaine 80mins of play? I think agar is an excellent assistant coach but given the fact that we are in the final few weeks of this season and he is still talking about the next game and the next. Is it now next season? then when we are not performing in 2013 will it be the next season? Fact is he has not pulled any rabbits out of the hat. John Kear with this current team would have done a lot better.

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Agar for me as to get us in or very close to top 8 next season or he should go, he as a chance to put his stamp on the squad,get rid of the slackers and bring in a bit or quality.. time is ticking Mr Agar...

I would give him until next season let him have a proper off season. I am quite worried our team makes the same daft errors week in week out and I didn't agree with Ellis going on loan and Trout preffered to Mariano most of the time. The brand of rugby he is trying to make us play is exciting, but its also frustrating i.e. a lot of fizz but no final product. Kear without doubt would be doing a better job with this current squad ! But I am prepared to give Agar half way through next season if we are not near the 8 I would sack him.

Problem Agar has is that building an attacking structure is fairly easy - If you have enough decent players then under the right condition good attacking RL will take place. As has been the case on occasion this season. Very few players at SL level have any problem joining the fun when the game is in their favour - hell if you can't enjoy that part of the game then you're in the wrong game.

Building a defensive structure which is what gives you the platform for attacking flair RL on a regular basis ala Wigan or Warrington is far harder and takes a lot longer to get right. Look how long it took both those two money bags clubs to get it right. It requires the right players and the right team structure and team spirit. The players who can do both week in week out - the hard yakka?? - as the Aussies call it are far thinner on the ground than your average decent player. Coaches know who they are but buying or keeping them for any length of time for a club like ours is almost impossible. These players are so in demand and so few.

Agar started the season not knowing how many of these players he had. He was fairly certain about Washbrook and Aiton - probably expected more from Southern. The rest he needed to get to know. He should know them by now and in the close season should get rid of a fair few. He will hopefully replace them with better tougher players who will allow us to play more often and not come unstuck if the game gets tight. If he doesn't do this he is a wally.

Kyle Wood is an obvious example. He has a decent but not exceptional attacking game. However he can't tackle and he never will - it's to late now to change him he's 22?. You can carry a genius but he isn't. English coaches need to address the fact that in RL the ability to defend/tackle is the most important core skill and the only one IMHO all players must have without exception - I don't care how big or fast they are.

Agar will have to address this in the close season. If he does we will be a much better team than this year - if he doesn't he will be out of a job. Over to you Richard, next season is the one big chance you have left. I sincerely wish you all the best, we all should.

Building a defensive structure which is what gives you the platform for attacking flair RL on a regular basis ala Wigan or Warrington is far harder and takes a lot longer to get right. Look how long it took both those two money bags clubs to get it right.

Agreed Vasty. Only thing i would pick up on is the above, as a quality coach at Wigan (Mcguire) managed to transform the Wigan defence in pretty much one off season. Yes they had decent players already, but they were decent players performing nowhere near the levels they were capable of, and it took a good coach to change that.

Both Warrington and Wigan didnt get it right until they managed to get a quality coach. Obviously we are not as big a draw as them but im just not sure RA is good enough even for our current level. Having said that, like the majority, i agree he shouldnt really be judged until next season. Hopefully he will prove us all wrong.