... and still defending out wide is a massive issue. Twice Fox has unnecessarily come in leaving an easy score for Riley

Tim Smith gets biggest cheer of the afternoon as he exits the field.

This second half thing is really getting stupid

Yeah, competed well for 60 minsk but fell away badly in the last quarter. A better side wouldn've beaten Wire today.

Was going to start a should it be half price thread as we only ever get one half of rugby but couldn't be bothered.

How significant was the Wood-Aiton substitution on 53 mins? Doesn't Aiton normally do the full 80?

Yeah, competed well for 60 minsk but fell away badly in the last quarter. A better side wouldn've beaten Wire today.'"

I don't see this game as falling away badly.

We (Smith) made a couple of mistakes that gave them a roll on, and we tried to chase the game and gave an interception.
We competed with a team that is far better technically and physically than us. We couldn't keep it up because they played more freely on the back of our mistakes.

Fall away means we gave up. I didn't see that. I saw fatigue from tackling bigger players and letting tries in out wide when getting drawn in tackling players that would have bust us if we didn't.

We weren't great at times but we weren't terrible either. And at times we looked like we had a chance.

I'm tempted to say we drop Smith but I'm not sure our options are better without. He does run the plays well, but he made too many mistakes today for it not to be a consideration. Disappointing because I thought he started well.

I wasn't suggesting they gave up, but the concentration and fitness levels dropped for whatever reason in the latter stages which allowed Wire to put on a larger score than the game warrented. To be fair the most disappointing scores were the first two.

How many second half's is that we haven't scored a try?
Agar borefest at halftime team talk

Wire were without Morley, Monoghan, Briers and god knows who else.

We wont win games cos we can't score enough,
We are second lowest scoring team in the league..

Was that because they came from forward passes, as from where I was stood that looked exactly what they were


Ref and linesman very poor today, from my understanding from talking to people who were up the other end, Mathers try should not have been disallowed and it's debatable as to whether Collis's try should been.
Seems that penalty after penalty was given against wire but no one shown a card and the only forward passes spotted seemed to be debatable ones from us and not any of the obvious ones from wire, this constantly put us on the back foot that meant we were having to defend more sets and long term this took effect.
However we were poor at killing the ball and allowed them to offload too much and I don't know how Mathers didn't get man of the match today, he had a very good game

Two years wouldnt be enough. The squads not good enough and the first team s poor. How many would get a game with any other SL club.

Just can't keep making excuses for not being able to compete. Warrington were without key players today and Wakey were about at full streangth but in the second half we were dire. Ali has piled weight and is now sponsered by Lard Arsed Lads Ltd and is just earning a wage. There is no aggression in the side, no passion in the side and no bloody hope of winning a game. Cas next up? I doubt we will get anything there.

Been down BV since 89 but can't be d anymore, which makes me so depressed. Get the Aussies on the next plane and the u20's in.

I thought we did alright for 60 minutes against a very good side. The first 2 trys were soft but we battled well for the majority of the game. We do lack a bit of size in the forwards but we played some decent stuff at times. It wasn't all bad today and the scoreline flattered Wire.

Dont see what we can do this season the fact is we had to play with ONE out and out prop today we lack size and week in week out teams grind us down and we fall away nothing to do with effort

We need 3 out and out props next season to go with Amor and Wilkes Smith should be released so we need a stand off and a decent centre

Dont see a win V Cas next week they will be up for it after today and like most they are too big in the pack for our lads 3 wins max for us now the battle is on to avoid the wooden spoon for the first time

Seems about right to me.

Collis was a complete joke today as normal, his continued selection is an insult to lads like Lucas Walshaw.

Keep telling myself I should go home at half-time but still stick it out to the bitter end.
Who ever gives the half time team talk [iplease please [/ikeep quiet in future.

Let's not have a half time instead to going in keep them out as if half time never happened and then the second half would be an extended first half sorted

A half time talk should inspire the players to go out and push on not come out and play garbage second half which is what we are seeing week in week out. If we could play for 80mins we'd be doing better than we are. Cant see us winning another game this season tbh not with agar in charge any way. He couldn t do it at hull with all the top quality players and he definately cant motivate the team to push on for the win

It wouldnt be so bad if things started bad then from week to week you see a slight improvement but from the win at Widnes things have not improved and in some cases got worse people can blame individual players but the buck stops with the coach it's up to him to sort it. the seasons over and some of the players and coaching staff are already on that beach it would seem

I'm only buying a first half ticket from now on.

The team now needs to be picked on form as I suspect it has been picked on reputation or to extent contract size to date. Those that haven't performed based on stats & key chances missed (or mistakes made) need to be dropped.

Get the players fit before they go on the field (Lauitiiti today?).

R.A. next week please give Lucas Walshaw (if fit) and Matt James a go who are local lads and have some size to compete against the opposition (I know James was suspended today). Try something different. If the fans see some creativity to try break the cycle there won't be as much frustration.

Did Danny Kirmond play?