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| Whats the latest with the ground developments? Does planning permission have to be submitted? If so, has it? When can work commence?
I seem to remember someone saying it was going to start after the end of season awards do??
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| I think they must have already started was down on Tuesday and the new bar has been built unfortunately it is in the middle of the pitch, new concept of close to the action view apparently.
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| Quote ="Jambon"Whats the latest with the ground developments? Does planning permission have to be submitted? If so, has it? When can work commence?
I seem to remember someone saying it was going to start after the end of season awards do??'"
When I left on friday I noticed behind the boxes were stacks of what may have been seats - don't know if they were part of the temp stands but they were not there before and there was a lot of whatever it was.
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| No all joking apart I think they may have been the seats for Tuesdays celebrating Wakefield event.
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| Quote ="Jambon"Whats the latest with the ground developments? Does planning permission have to be submitted? If so, has it? When can work commence?
I seem to remember someone saying it was going to start after the end of season awards do??'"
The first thing the club has to do is submit a planning application so keep an eye out for that.
Then its up to WMDC to approve the details at best this will take about 3 months I would suspect.
Once we get approval the action should begin and from all accounts the whole process should take around a month or so I am lead to believe. If it runs smooothly without problems I think we will just about have it all done before next season starts.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"The first thing the club has to do is submit a planning application so keep an eye out for that.
Then its up to WMDC to approve the details at best this will take about 3 months I would suspect.
Once we get approval the action should begin and from all accounts the whole process should take around a month or so I am lead to believe. If it runs smooothly without problems I think we will just about have it all done before next season starts.'"
If that is the case why was this not submitted the day after we were granted a license?
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| Quote ="Jambon"If that is the case why was this not submitted the day after we were granted a license?'"
I don't know, why not ask jimmy when he gets back from his jollies
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| Are we waiting on the early bird season ticket money??
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| If they are still intending to dig out the northern terrace you would imagine that alone would take more than a month.
Don't worry about the council, if you've read the latest council statement re:Newmarket you'll you how closely we're working with them at the moment.
The structures will be temporary, both in terms of the purpose & lifespan.
The council are 100% behind NM & therefore WT in SL. If these measures have to be taken to ensure we have a place in SL our council won't let us down. I expect these to be pushed through much quicker than the usual 3 months.
As I said earlier; to anyone who doubt the WMDC & they extent the value WT- have a read of their latest remit. It makes a very reassuring read. They're fighting tooth and nail for us & putting together a very good case too!
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"If they are still intending to dig out the northern terrace you would imagine that alone would take more than a month.
Don't worry about the council, if you've read the latest council statement re:Newmarket you'll you how closely we're working with them at the moment.
The structures will be temporary, both in terms of the purpose & lifespan.
The council are 100% behind NM & therefore WT in SL. If these measures have to be taken to ensure we have a place in SL our council won't let us down. I expect these to be pushed through much quicker than the usual 3 months.
As I said earlier; to anyone who doubt the WMDC & the extent the value WT- have a read of their latest remit. It makes a very reassuring read. They're fighting tooth and nail for us & putting together a very good case too!'"
First of all re nortrhern terrace, I was told that any ground work will be very minimal and also the stand will only be covereing the upper half as this will enable the floodlights to drop down along the walk way that runs mid terrace.
I don't disagree about WMDC and there is no doubt they have changed their attitude towards the club over the years. I don't think there will be problems with the planning and it should be just a formality. However its the speed at which the 'officers' work, they only have one pace so I would be amazed if this gets over everyones desk within 3 months.
Last but not least I think there will be one objection from a certain councillor in the area but I don't think anyobne will take any notice of it.
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| I asked the question a few weeks back. Apparently the plans were being fine-tuned to suit Sky’s requirements. Not sure what the status is now, although the club are leaving it a little tight in getting all their ducks in a row to enable the work to be completed by the start of the new season.
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| i hear that they have put new bog chains in the womens toilets and have applied for planning permission to errect may pole at the open terrace end.
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| Quote ="SIMMSFAXTEDDY"i hear that they have put new bog chains in the womens toilets and have applied for planning permission to errect may pole at the open terrace end.'"
Your hearings on the blink mate. I should pull your head out of your ar5e, it might improve the situation.
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| Good luck with your new stadium hope u get it this time around,as andrew glover and co, will know if u havent sorted it out next time the super league licenses are given out.you wont get 1
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| Quote ="viking.gb"Good luck with your new stadium hope u get it this time around,as andrew glover and co, will know if u havent sorted it out next time the super league licenses are given out.you wont get 1'"
You're joking aren't you? We've got a God given right to be in Super League didn't you know? Just like Halifax, oh, errr, wait a minute.
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| Apparently we have a digger on standby from DIGGERLAND in cas but we have to give them a few hours notice to get the jump leads out and jump the one at xscape so they can bring it over
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| Quote ="Jambon"If that is the case why was this not submitted the day after we were granted a license?'"
This is just a theory of mine.
We all know that if we get the green light for NM upgrading BV is frankly a waste of time. Using money better spent on young players.
We all know that if we don't get NM then upgrading BV with temp stands is a waste of money. Money better spent on proper stands if we have to stay at BV.
So however long we can delay the better. If we get NM then hopefully we can ditch most of the plans because no one will care what happens at BV whilst it's being built. If we don't get NM then we will need a re-think regarding BV.
Either way we have until Jan before we have to put it all in place by which time we will know better regarding NM (hopefully).
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| I did see what appeared to be a [url=http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/public/assets/news/2010/11/1288716758_jcb-loadall-540-170.jpgreach truck[/url behind the hospitality block last Friday, although this could have been for the erection of the marque for the end of season awards.
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| Quote ="vastman"This is just a theory of mine.
We all know that if we get the green light for NM upgrading BV is frankly a waste of time. Using money better spent on young players.
We all know that if we don't get NM then upgrading BV with temp stands is a waste of money. Money better spent on proper stands if we have to stay at BV.
So however long we can delay the better. If we get NM then hopefully we can ditch most of the plans because no one will care what happens at BV whilst it's being built. If we don't get NM then we will need a re-think regarding BV.
Either way we have until Jan before we have to put it all in place by which time we will know better regarding NM (hopefully).'"
Yes I would go along with that
Also we are not sure on the cost of these 'stands' lets say the one behind the sticks costs £100K per season.
this is around £7.7K per league game. Another 390 full paying adults per match covers the cost. I am not saying it would attract that many to every game but I am sure the fact that BV is open to the elements costs us financially often throughout the season. So I am sure these stands will provide a considerable payback.
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| The away stand covered and With other stands covered, plus extra bars and facelift here and there should see more away fans willing to make the trip.
The common statements of no atmosphere and gettin wet should be knocked on the head.
Looking forward to seeing the upgrade.
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| Quote ="vastman"This is just a theory of mine.
We all know that if we get the green light for NM upgrading BV is frankly a waste of time. Using money better spent on young players.
We all know that if we don't get NM then upgrading BV with temp stands is a waste of money. Money better spent on proper stands if we have to stay at BV.
So however long we can delay the better. If we get NM then hopefully we can ditch most of the plans because no one will care what happens at BV whilst it's being built. If we don't get NM then we will need a re-think regarding BV.
Either way we have until Jan before we have to put it all in place by which time we will know better regarding NM (hopefully).'"
All correct, but doesn't do our credibility much good (again) after the big bruhaha when announcing the plans, and the perception of the club as going back, rightly or wrongly, on plans once again.
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| its to be hoped that significant progress if not all the ground upgrades have been completed by the start of the season or we may look quite silly after all the 'unfulfilled promises' of the last regime.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"All correct, but doesn't do our credibility much good (again) after the big bruhaha when announcing the plans, and the perception of the club as going back, rightly or wrongly, on plans once again.'"
Getting NM will give us credibility overload TBH. Yes you are right but as we have found ALL and I mean ALL is forgiven in RL if you have a new stadium and the 5000 bogs that come with it. Not even a calculated risk, just calculated.
The truth is that if NM appears we will in the eyes of the game immediately transform into a successful club and the old Wildcats will be consumed to history. All the stigma we now have due to past misdemeanors will just go, that's how it is it will be. Wrong but true IMHO.
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| My understanding of the developments is thus:
Our franchise application included the redevelopment of Belle Vue and we must complete this if we dont want to come under pressure from the RFL again.
Even if we get the go ahead for Newmarket we will still be at Belle Vue for at least 2 of the 3 seasons covering this current franchise period which makes it imperative that we deliver on our franchise promises.
The structures being errected can stand permanently if required but can also be dismantled and moved which makes their acquisition more cost effective as they will not be scrapped after we've finished with them. I believe that we plan to resite the structures at Newmarket, surrounding the 2nd pitch which sits adjacent to the main stadium.
The cost of purchasing and errection of the new stands at Belle Vue have been met either wholly or partially by a sponsor and will not impact on the player budget.
Planning is required but is not seen by the WMDC planning dept as a big issue and is expected to be passed without delay or drama.
Work is due to be completed within 3 weeks of starting, I've heard conflicting stories about exactly when it's due to start with October and January being mentioned.
As KK said we are waiting on the requirements of SKY TV with regard to how the West terrace will be developed, the club want a full length stand but this might not be possible due to the access required by SKY.
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| Quote ="The Clan"My understanding of the developments is thus:
Our franchise application included the redevelopment of Belle Vue and we must complete this if we dont want to come under pressure from the RFL again.
Even if we get the go ahead for Newmarket we will still be at Belle Vue for at least 2 of the 3 seasons covering this current franchise period which makes it imperative that we deliver on our franchise promises.
The structures being errected can stand permanently if required but can also be dismantled and moved which makes their acquisition more cost effective as they will not be scrapped after we've finished with them. I believe that we plan to resite the structures at Newmarket, surrounding the 2nd pitch which sits adjacent to the main stadium.
The cost of purchasing and errection of the new stands at Belle Vue have been met either wholly or partially by a sponsor and will not impact on the player budget.
Planning is required but is not seen by the WMDC planning dept as a big issue and is expected to be passed without delay or drama.
Work is due to be completed within 3 weeks of starting, I've heard conflicting stories about exactly when it's due to start with October and January being mentioned.
As KK said we are waiting on the requirements of SKY TV with regard to how the West terrace will be developed, the club want a full length stand but this might not be possible due to the access required by SKY.'"
We could let them hire one of the box's, chuck in some butties for Stevo.
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