Hi guys. Seen a few of them and think it's a great idea. What i'm wondering though, has it attracted any newcomers? Has it been worth the cost of the advert? How much does an advert like that cost?

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In simple terms Ponner i've no idea mate but its a clever idea and i'm glad my clubs doing it.

Agreed, we're trying something different for a RL club.. and its nice to see my club taking the initiative.

The initial advertisement was a good inovation from the club. However in a way it was also an exercise in futility.
Its all well and good attracting new supporters but the biggest hurdle is getting them hooked and comming back for more. The dump that is Belle Vue and the 'entertainment' on the pitch this season so far, makes it very difficult IMHO.

Indeed, and my understanding is that it hasn't gone unnoticed at Red Hall.

As for how effective it's been - as someone clever once said "I know I'm wasting half of my marketing budget - the problem is, I don't know which half."

Haven't we added about 800 per game on last season?

i agree with you, it is a good idea but i disagree it is not futile. any idea that seeks to improve the clubs position should be applauded. the belle vue that you refer to as a dump is also being improved at no small cost. the guy that is putting his money where his mouth is should be applauded and supported in every way we can. as for the entertainment on the pitch, with what we have got we are doing far better than anyone would have thought not long ago . most thought we wouldn't even start sl. kear and the young lads we have got are giving it their best shot. of course they will faulter now and again and i am sure you will agree that is when they need our support most. its easy to beat the drum when we beat hudds, its a little bit harder on the return trip from london after getting beat but i have enjoyed this seasonfar more than last season. remember t.w.a.s

Gates have increased with an ordinary product on the field so something is working.Wether it`s the TV Ads only the club will know ,buts great to see my club being innovative in advertising itself unlike before when we just expected people to turn up

I feel it’s a bit of a double standard trying to attract new support whilst at the same time banning lifelong supporters thus throwing away money.
However you still have to applaud Mr Glover for his effort.

????? Whos been banned?

The only ones I can think of are those involved in a dispute with the club over their former employment.

and was it deserved???

Depends who it is and why they are banned. If its the Richardsons then after the state they left the club in I have to say that I wouldn't be overly concerned, and there aren't that many of them so it's hardly hampering our finances (in fact their employment action is properly doing more to our income than them not attending).

If it happens there will be no one more happy than myself and I will be the first to say well done. However unless I am missing something I have seen very little improvement so far other than a lick of paint and a few flat screen tellys. Yes I have seen those plans but that is all they are plans and old Ted had more than enough of them over the years.

I have seen no substantial investment in the playing side. The only real full on effort I have seen from the club is an attempt to get the supporters to dig even deeper into their pockets. So all in all we are just living on promises and hope for the future so lets not get too carried away.

The build will start at the end of season

Why would AG buy top players, for them to leave, if we are not in Super league, AG is playing the waiting game, if we get the nod to stay in super league then I think we will see new players coming in..

And it is every clubs job to get backing from the fans, through lottery, memberships, and through shop....

Other than the improvements that have been made to the ground and the squad, what would you recommend (if it were your money) should be done further?

Getting back to who's been banned that big lad who used to sell tickets by the main gate, for selling his own ticket apparently.

A top notch coaching set up that would be as good if not better than anything else around. Also sign some of the top juniors, lets not hang around for the loyal fans to dig deep in their pockets for this. Both these would apply which ever division we are in next season.

On the playing front I am sure there are good players around to improve our squad, you don't have to sign them on, loan deals to the end of the season would do. Quins have got 7 players on that type of deal and I would have been happy to see some of them at our place.

You see what I am looking for is a clear signal of serious intent from our new owner, as yet its just tinkering about in my view. I may be asking too much or I am probably being a little too demanding, however I have yet to see any real improvement only gimmicks

I would assume to increase the chance of us actually being in SL next year?

Do you think it make a jot of difference from a franchise point of view, from what i've picked up playing staff is so far down the list its almost a after thought.

Taking that to it's logical conclusion finishing last and getting thumped 60 nil every week would have no impact on our chances of getting a franchise. I disagree. Whilst i'm sure it is in no way the priority it can't hurt for us to be still seen as a club with something to offer on the field. If we finishe top 8 and win a play off game that can only make it harder to kick us out. Whether it would be enough is a completely different matter but my point is we shouldn't write off the playing side by focusing only on the ground etc

Widnes wasn't doing that well when they got a franchise

Partly right there AL but at the same time don't you think it is important to provide a good entertaining display on the pitch no matter what. If we do all this advertising etc to attract new fans or stay away fans then we need to give them a reason to come back.

If any newbie had been unfortunate enough to witness salford and quins away they would never return. In fact its a good job those two were played away from home.

And? Who were they up against? Hardly the same

Remember you're spending your own dough.

Why would you spend any more on the ground until you know what your budgets are going to be based on the short/mid term? The changes that have happened have all been aimed at increasing/creating revenue streams, ok they have been cosmetic as well but they are all sound business practices. (Money in)

For our club to get bigger, we as fans are going to have to "dig deep", it was always so and unless a moneybags comes in for us, it will always be so. The thing that the club is doing right, and again its all about sound business and increasing revenue, is to make us feel like we are buying into something big and that we will benefit from, i.e a successful Wakefield Trinity. A good salesman doesn't sell you anything, you choose to buy from one. (More money in)

The playing squad sums up the club, battling, fighting against the odds, for our club it is a marketing winner, i wouldn't expect any big name players, nor would i waste any money on one, i would suggest a rough diamond or two and a couple of extra grafters. This will save us money we do not need to spend and if the worst comes to the worst and we can afford it, we have a side ready for the Championship to hit the ground running. (Not wasting money)

There is nothing more clearer a message, than that of someone doing everything they can to improve our lot, sometimes you have to look hard though.
Increase revenue
Increase membership
Improve ground
Demonstrate innovation
Demonstrate willingness
Demonstrate all the reasons why we should be a SL franchised club.
These are all key areas that the old club failed to deliver, and why we were staring at the abyss.
To me they are all areas now that the new club are showing vast improvements, and that has got to help our cause.

I am as sure as i can be in my own mind, that we at least deserve our shot at a franchise for SL, i can think of reasons why the old club may not have deserved one, even though i think we were still ahead of other clubs on merit.
Only time will tell, but IMO we are doing things to make the RFLs job that bit harder to justify if we do get the bullet in a couple of weeks, and i can live with that.

Kinley mate

I am fed up of hearing about the old mob, you are quite right they left is in one hell of a pile of crap. Howewver they are now well gone and just a bad memory. Mr glover has been left with a mountain to climb, I accept that.

As far as his selling skills are concerned you have obviously bought in. However I am still waiting to see more than promises. That is proabaly were we both differ, albeit we both want what is best for WTW