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| Liked the look of George in the centre
Blaymire never lets us down
Great to see BJ running with pace at defenders
We kicked a penalty - yipee
Matty Wildie is ready for 1st team rugby ( get his contract extended now )
Don`t drop Wildie again
Higgins is just the sort of prop we needed , tough, nothing flash, hard yards merchant
Good to see us trying to get a quick play of the ball
How poor was our game management in the second half
Nice to see a better balanced bench
Gledhill needs to look after the ball
Marinano is a top find
Howarth just gets better
Anybody know if Johnson ( winger ) was injured, if not he should play
Please can we try and mend the tannoy in the stand
Please can we try to look after the ball if we ever find ourselves in the lead again
Morro is the best leader we have had in 25 years
Great to win at home
How big were the Quins
Gale looks a real good player ( Stanley Rangers lad, hope we see him in Trin colours some day )
On paper we had no right to win
Second half defence was v.poor
Yipee we kicked for Penny from a scrum ( first time since Goulding kicked for Sampson at Bradford )
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| and the Quins kit was ace
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"
Morro is the best leader we have had in 25 years
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Not in anyway a criticism of Morro, but you haven't been watching Wakefield for 25 years then!
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Morro is the best leader we have had in 25 years'"
His fitness levels, work rate and enthusiasm are phenomenal.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Liked the look of George in the centre
Blaymire never lets us down
Great to see BJ running with pace at defenders
We kicked a penalty - yipee
Matty Wildie is ready for 1st team rugby ( get his contract extended now )
Don`t drop Wildie again
Higgins is just the sort of prop we needed , tough, nothing flash, hard yards merchant
Good to see us trying to get a quick play of the ball
How poor was our game management in the second half
Nice to see a better balanced bench
Gledhill needs to look after the ball
Marinano is a top find
Howarth just gets better
Anybody know if Johnson ( winger ) was injured, if not he should play
Please can we try and mend the tannoy in the stand
Please can we try to look after the ball if we ever find ourselves in the lead again
Morro is the best leader we have had in 25 years
Great to win at home
How big were the Quins
Gale looks a real good player ( Stanley Rangers lad, hope we see him in Trin colours some day )
On paper we had no right to win
Second half defence was v.poor
Yipee we kicked for Penny from a scrum ( first time since Goulding kicked for Sampson at Bradford )'"
Johnson warmed up with the team pre-match.
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| As suspect as penny is in defence his attacking threat is as yet unused.
The kick through in the first half if executed correctly would have resulted in a try, it would also have resulted in the opposition fullback being more reluctant of being up in the line.
I said after the Salford game, come the faster pitches and our quicker smaller side would be a different prospect.
That said a bit of extra grunt has proved valuable in the shape of Higgins, wildie in his spells showed we may not need a 7 after all.
Back the lads we've got, if that's what we've got, nothing wrong with today's efforts, after all, as sky commented about the giants, we were able to rest half a dozen players today and still won comfortably!!!!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"=#FF0000As suspect as penny is in defence his attacking threat is as yet unused.
The kick through in the first half if executed correctly would have resulted in a try, it would also have resulted in the opposition fullback being more reluctant of being up in the line.
I said after the Salford game, come the faster pitches and our quicker smaller side would be a different prospect.
That said a bit of extra grunt has proved valuable in the shape of Higgins, wildie in his spells showed we may not need a 7 after all.
Back the lads we've got, if that's what we've got, nothing wrong with today's efforts, after all, as sky commented about the giants, we were able to rest half a dozen players today and still won comfortably!!!!
'" bit of a miss match against Price toady but squared up to him and once put him on his arris
later he copped for a leg injury later in the game
but that kick through nearly paid off though
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Liked the look of George in the centre
Blaymire never lets us down
Great to see BJ running with pace at defenders
We kicked a penalty - yipee
Matty Wildie is ready for 1st team rugby ( get his contract extended now )
Don`t drop Wildie again
Higgins is just the sort of prop we needed , tough, nothing flash, hard yards merchant
Good to see us trying to get a quick play of the ball
How poor was our game management in the second half
Nice to see a better balanced bench
Gledhill needs to look after the ball
Marinano is a top find
Howarth just gets better
Anybody know if Johnson ( winger ) was injured, if not he should play
Please can we try and mend the tannoy in the stand
Please can we try to look after the ball if we ever find ourselves in the lead again
Morro is the best leader we have had in 25 years
Great to win at home
How big were the Quins
Gale looks a real good player ( Stanley Rangers lad, hope we see him in Trin colours some day )
On paper we had no right to win
Second half defence was v.poor
Yipee we kicked for Penny from a scrum ( first time since Goulding kicked for Sampson at Bradford )'"
You forgot that the referree took 'the call' at half time to penalise us to death
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| Quote ="grae"You forgot that the referree took 'the call' at half time to penalise us to death'"
It did seem that way at times.
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| Sadly dboy, been watching more than 25 years. Just think Morro is the best leader for a very long time. Topliss and Bill Ashurst were leaders of men since then I cannot think of a great Captain at Trinity. JD was good but seemed to sulk when things were going wrong on the pitch.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Sadly dboy, been watching more than 25 years. Just think Morro is the best leader for a very long time. Topliss and Bill Ashurst were leaders of men since then I cannot think of a great Captain at Trinity. JD was good but seemed to sulk when things were going wrong on the pitch.'"
Well people (e.g. you) have very short memories then!
Again, not in anyway denigrating Morrison, but we have at times been blessed with players (leaders), that have truly been inspirational.
Test your memory a little...
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| John Kear has history for kicking at a scrum in our 20mtr area when Karl Pryce is one of those defending that side.
He did it against Bradford about 4 years ago when Paul White scored.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"As suspect as penny is in defence his attacking threat is as yet unused.
The kick through in the first half if executed correctly would have resulted in a try'"
That's assuming Penny would have gathered the ball in and put it down correctly. Penny seems to lack the basic skills to be a rugby league player just having pace is not enough for me.
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| as usual dboy I am going to need some help on this one
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| Quote ="J.T"That's assuming Penny would have gathered the ball in and put it down correctly. Penny seems to lack the basic skills to be a rugby league player just having pace is not enough for me.'"
I agree, there would always be that question mark over him, a bit like George, and like George they are both questionable defensibly, what isn't up for question is the speed, and IMHO we should utilise it.
Their weaknesses will always cost us points, so let's try and score some to even up the balance on their strengths.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"as usual dboy I am going to need some help on this one'"
not looking too far back we had a bloke called gareth ellis, he did a good job as skipper
However I realise what you are saying about morro. It must also be remembered that he has around him a very young and inexperienced team and he is doing a great job
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| Quote ="jack in the box"However I realise what you are saying about morro. It must also be remembered that he has around him a very young and inexperienced team and he is doing a great job'"
Absolutely - not only does he put his body on the line for 80 mins, but he always gives the lads a nod when they get something right and tries to lift them when something goes wrong; for me, Morro epitomises the role of Captain - a true professional and one of our best overseas signings in many a year.
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| Quote ="dboy"Well people (e.g. you) have very short memories then!
Again, not in anyway denigrating Morrison, but we have at times been blessed with players (leaders), that have truly been inspirational.
Test your memory a little...'"
Test my memory then because I can't think of a better all round player and leader on the pitch in the last 20 years at least - do enlighten us?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I agree, there would always be that question mark over him, a bit like George, and like George they are both questionable defensibly, what isn't up for question is the speed, and IMHO we should utilise it.
Their weaknesses will always cost us points, so let's try and score some to even up the balance on their strengths.'"
George was the best tackler in the back line yesterday IMHO.
Why is George suspect, he gets binned every week only for it to be found that after all it wasn't him. Time and time again yesterday he was there to cover for Griffin who didn't have a bad game but was out of position a number of times. I noticed how many times various players patted Luke on the back after a tackle, that says a lot to me.
There is no question mark over George in my book and to lump him in with Penny really baffles me TBH.
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| Fortunately I was in the company of JD and glen Morrison after the game,when glen was asked the question regarding the fracard with wild his answer was .I Had to get in there and help the young lads....That in my eyes is a true leader,long may it continue.up the trin.
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| if pressed, i am not a big fan of george. he just seems erratic at times. i know that in his position (wing) any mistakes are magnified, but he did charge out of the line (when playing centre) and sometimes was found defending in the middle.
i thought penny had a better game today. he definately tried, and was keen to take up the ball. IIRC he only droppped one high ball, albeit under no pressure.
i thought blaymire looked solid at the back and especially under the high ball. one thing that blaymire does well and is often overlooked is that he marshalls the defense well. you can see him pointing and shouting to the team to move left, right etc etc.
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as for great leaders, morrison is up there with the best in recent times, and would definately make it into a "best wakey team of the last 25 years". for me ray price was "the man" and we have a lot to thank matt fuller for as well.
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| Quote ="vastman"George was the best tackler in the back line yesterday IMHO.'"
Yesterday he looked like a player with a point to prove and I thought he did a good job in the centres; his defence was solid for the most part and he looks more comfortable in that position.
Penny, on the other hand, should be put in a room with a tackle bag and not allowed to come out until he has grasped the basic technique; he has a bad habit of flying past his man and sticking an arm out on the way past - that's either lack of bottle or poor technique.
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| Quote ="miamivice"if pressed, i am not a big fan of george. he just seems erratic at times. i know that in his position (wing) any mistakes are magnified, but he did charge out of the line (when playing centre) and sometimes was found defending in the middle.
i thought penny had a better game today. he definately tried, and was keen to take up the ball. IIRC he only droppped one high ball, albeit under no pressure.
i thought blaymire looked solid at the back and especially under the high ball. one thing that blaymire does well and is often overlooked is that he marshalls the defense well. you can see him pointing and shouting to the team to move left, right etc etc.
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as for great leaders, morrison is up there with the best in recent times, and would definately make it into a "best wakey team of the last 25 years". for me ray price was "the man" and we have a lot to thank matt fuller for as well.'"
That was Penny who flew out of the line as far as I recall.
Your opinion on George is fair enough though I don't agree with it. As for George look where Griffin was or wasn't if you get the DVD, it may prove otherwise.
That was Penny who flew out of the line as far as I recall.
Your opinion on George is fair enough though I don't agree with it. As for George look where Griffin was or wasn't if you get the DVD, it may prove otherwise.
Also George is not a winger, his natural position is centre which I think explained why he had a better game.
However to suggest Penny had a better game makes me wonder where your starting point is! Basically he can't play RL - George may be erratic at times though I think not for his age but he can play. Penny was simply a liability at times and had Quins just run Pryce at him all day as they should have they could easily have won. I really don't like bagging players but Penny has been criticised for the same flaws in his game since he started and has not improved at all IMO
However to suggest Penny had a better game makes me wonder where your starting point is! Basically he can't play RL - George may be erratic at times though I think not for his age but he can play. Penny was simply a liability at times and had Quins just run Pryce at him all day as they should have they could easily have won. I really don't like bagging players but Penny has been criticised for the same flaws in his game since he started and has not improved at all IMO.
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| I've never rated Penny but the quandary for Kear is who to play on the right wing because despite getting a good rap on here Greg Johnson hasn't been exactly safe as houses either. They've both played 4 games and scored once. If you look at the stats Johnson has made more errors and given more penalties away, made less carries and thus made less metres. They've both made the same amount of errors and tackle busts but Penny has made 2 clean breaks to Johnsons one. Johnson though has a couple of try assists to his name and has made more tackles, though he has missed more as well. i know it can be a case of lies, damned lies and statistics but the facts are that both are going to be targeted by the opposition and neither cope particularly well.
For me once Murphy is back he should go straight back into the centres with George back on one wing, Griffin on the other and see if that works. Does anyone know when Morton is likely to be fit?
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That was Penny who flew out of the line as far as I recall.
Your opinion on George is fair enough though I don't agree with it. As for George look where Griffin was or wasn't if you get the DVD, it may prove otherwise.
Also George is not a winger, his natural position is centre which I think explained why he had a better game.
However to suggest Penny had a better game makes me wonder where your starting point is! Basically he can't play RL - George may be erratic at times though I think not for his age but he can play. Penny was simply a liability at times and had Quins just run Pryce at him all day as they should have they could easily have won. I really don't like bagging players but Penny has been criticised for the same flaws in his game since he started and has not improved at all IMO
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The best way I can judge both of them is that I feel uneasy whenever George has or is near the ball and I feel very uneasy when Penny has or is near the ball. Neither fill me with confidence as they are both prone to stupid errors. George is clearly the better player but I just can't shake that uneasy feeling that to often he's a liability.
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