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| Higgins and McCarthy (Loan) signed/signing according to Lge Exp, Page 5.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Higgins and McCarthy (Loan) signed/signing according to Lge Exp, Page 5.'"
Well Higgins will certainly add some size, but I hope his signing is not at the expense of Gledhill. Haven't seen much of the Wire player, but a second row is not a priority.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Well Higgins will certainly add some size, but I hope his signing is not at the expense of Gledhill. Haven't seen much of the Wire player, but a second row is not a priority.'"
Gledhill isn't ready IMHO. Apart from his debut game he has struggled. I think he is still a bit raw boned for now and needs a stone in weight adding. He will be a good one I'm sure but I don't think he offers that much just yet.
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| I would expect Higgins to go okay for you. He's by no means a world beater, but an honest and hardworking player.
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| Not sure Higgins is what we are after. If he was good enough i am sure another SL club would have picked him up in the summer as opposed to him dropping into the championship.
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| Quote ="vastman"Gledhill isn't ready IMHO. Apart from his debut game he has struggled. I think he is still a bit raw boned for now and needs a stone in weight adding. He will be a good one I'm sure but I don't think he offers that much just yet.'"
I will save this quote away for future reference. Lets see how long it takes.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Not sure Higgins is what we are after. If he was good enough i am sure another SL club would have picked him up in the summer as opposed to him dropping into the championship.'"
I understand where you are coming from but arguably Ricky Bibey could of still been doing the job for us in SL but because of other interests 'dropped' down into the Championship.
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| Quote ="eric"I will save this quote away for future reference. Lets see how long it takes.'"
What are you on about?
If you have to save it and pull it out in the future then you are proving me right
You seem to have a vested interest in this lad, if so it seems to blinker you.
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| Quote ="eric"I will save this quote away for future reference. Lets see how long it takes.'"
Not long, me thinks
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| Quote ="vastman"Gledhill isn't ready IMHO. Apart from his debut game he has struggled. I think he is still a bit raw boned for now and needs a stone in weight adding. He will be a good one I'm sure but I don't think he offers that much just yet.'"
Well every body i talk to can not understand the reason Ben is not playing, dont you think the lad will get better with more game time.
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On the beard scale of 1 - 10 (Gary Neville being 1 and Le Barbu being 10) I rate this as a 4.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"On the beard scale of 1 - 10 (Gary Neville being 1 and Le Barbu being 10) I rate this as a 4.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"On the beard scale of 1 - 10 (Gary Neville being 1 and Le Barbu being 10) I rate this as a 4.
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| McCarthy is a good player he couldn't commit to full time SL for a few years as he wanted to finish his sports degree at Edge Hill (he got a 2:1) he's played 8 SL games for Warrington (4 - 2009, 3 - 2010, 1 - 2011) and the Challenge Cup final in 2009.
Been going well for Leigh last year and again this year on dual registration as well as sometimes playing U20's for us, he scored 2 tries for Leigh yesterday as well. Glad that he's going to get some SL level experience though.
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Well every body i talk to can not understand the reason Ben is not playing, dont you think the lad will get better with more game time.'"
No. Doesn't work that way with forwards and he is a very young one. He needs to be eased into an experienced side not one full of kids not much older than he is. A lot of people think players are ready but only the coach is in a position to decide.
Problem with Erics posts regarding this subject is that I get the impression that he's got more than a passing interest. I've never met a dad or an uncle or whoever who doesn't reckon there lad is the real deal and ready for action. They may be right but I'm not convinced it's based on logic and thankfully they don't pick the team. So forgive me but I'd rather follow my own instinct on this and I don't think he's ready regardless of Erics slightly churlish remark.
That said if you are asking why Gledhill or Anakin didn't get the nod before Vievers, god only knows because one of them clearly should have. That though is a tactical issue and had King been available he'd have walked it in front of all three, because at the stage all three are desperation selections in a team that already has too many young inexperienced players.
If Paul Johnson was Jamie Peacock and Frankie Mariano was Paul Sculthorpe then yes give Gledhill a go every now and then but they are not. I think it would ruin the lad and I don't think he would be the only one heading that way if we are not carefull.
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| Higgins will add much needed size and weight to the front row I totally agree with vastman ref Gledhill he is going to be a decent prop but he's not ready
On another note could Finn at fev do us a job at scrum half I know he was not ready back in 2003/4 but I think he is worth a shout
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| Quote ="vastman"No. Doesn't work that way with forwards and he is a very young one. He needs to be eased into an experienced side not one full of kids not much older than he is. A lot of people think players are ready but only the coach is in a position to decide.
Problem with Erics posts regarding this subject is that I get the impression that he's got more than a passing interest. I've never met a dad or an uncle or whoever who doesn't reckon there lad is the real deal and ready for action. They may be right but I'm not convinced it's based on logic and thankfully they don't pick the team. So forgive me but I'd rather follow my own instinct on this and I don't think he's ready regardless of =#BF0000Erics slightly churlish remark.
That said if you are asking why Gledhill or Anakin didn't get the nod before Vievers, god only knows because one of them clearly should have. That though is a tactical issue and had King been available he'd have walked it in front of all three, because at the stage all three are desperation selections in a team that already has too many young inexperienced players.
If Paul Johnson was Jamie Peacock and Frankie Mariano was Paul Sculthorpe then yes give Gledhill a go every now and then but they are not. I think it would ruin the lad and I don't think he would be the only one heading that way if we are not carefull.'"
Was not meant to be churlish simply an opinion, it just happens to be different from yours. Thats why we all post on here.
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| Quote ="vastman"Gledhill isn't ready IMHO. Apart from his debut game he has struggled. I think he is still a bit raw boned for now and needs a stone in weight adding. He will be a good one I'm sure but I don't think he offers that much just yet.'"
Agree completely - looked and absolte belter in his first game, with me and my mates wondering how the hell he had been let go.
Think he has made a rod for his own back by setting the bar so high on his debut and ever since this game he hasn't lived up to those standards. Take the debut away and you have a fairly average youngster, who we need to be careful with and not over expose if we want the best chance of turning him into a good pro in a year or 2.
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| Quote ="vastman"No. Doesn't work that way with forwards and he is a very young one. He needs to be eased into an experienced side not one full of kids not much older than he is. A lot of people think players are ready but only the coach is in a position to decide.
Problem with Erics posts regarding this subject is that I get the impression that he's got more than a passing interest. I've never met a dad or an uncle or whoever who doesn't reckon there lad is the real deal and ready for action. They may be right but I'm not convinced it's based on logic and thankfully they don't pick the team. So forgive me but I'd rather follow my own instinct on this and I don't think he's ready regardless of Erics slightly churlish remark.
That said if you are asking why Gledhill or Anakin didn't get the nod before Vievers, god only knows because one of them clearly should have. That though is a tactical issue and had King been available he'd have walked it in front of all three, because at the stage all three are desperation selections in a team that already has too many young inexperienced players.
If Paul Johnson was Jamie Peacock and Frankie Mariano was Paul Sculthorpe then yes give Gledhill a go every now and then but they are not. I think it would ruin the lad and I don't think he would be the only one heading that way if we are not carefull.'" i'd agree with that. i like the lad but he is not ready yet. seems to get knocked back in the collisions. needs a little bit more weight and a bit more experience.but i certainly think he wsill get there.
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| Quote ="eric"Was not meant to be churlish simply an opinion, it just happens to be different from yours. Thats why we all post on here.'"
Fair enough.
There is nothing I want more than Gledhill or George or any of them to make it. However I believe you have to be exceptional to break the team as a prop before you are 22-23, especially (and this is my big worry) the team you play for is not a winning one.
The problem we have is that we have a team of extremes. A handfull of players who are 30ish and a shed load under 23 and absolutely nothing in between. That is so unbalanced it's not true and to be fair on JK it really narrows his options player wise.
Now Fergy has gone the only player we have who is at his peak so to speak is Henderson, bless him. Most of our players have not got 20 SL games under their belts so are both too young and too inexperienced. Sadly for Gledhill he is hunting a space in a team with too many players like him or slightly ahead. Sorry for the lad but we don't need another we need some experience, men not boys, they don't have to be superstars just committed and experienced.
Gledhills chance will come, cream always rises to the top.
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| Higgins has looked very impressive for Sheffield this season, I'd be disappointed to see him go
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