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| Above all the other coaches we could have at the moment I would have Kear.
He may have his limitations but I wouldnt swap him.
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| Quote ="Ossett Cat"Above all the other coaches we could have at the moment I would have Kear.
He may have his limitations but I wouldnt swap him.'"
I'm with you on that one. Hope he stays beyond this season.
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| Agree, Kear all the way...
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| Same...
Build again John...
If we get the chance to stay in SL.... A few play off finishes and a semi-final of CC would do
People forget what he has given to the club.
Yeh we dont play rugby like St Helen's but we dont have their kinda players, would you want hendo chucking a ball from left to right incorporating a Dummy Runner and a delayed pass? Nah neither would I
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| If i'm honest he could have gone for me, bring in Andy kelly or someone of that nature to take us forward.
We'll see if JK as any magic left in him.
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| no comment.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"no comment.'"
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| Quote ="Ossett Cat"Above all the other coaches we could have at the moment I would have Kear.
He may have his limitations but I wouldnt swap him.'"
Agreed - he's done so much for us, and God knows as much as we've needed his motivational and man-management skills in the past, we'll need them even more this season!
Not sure about beyond that, but we'll see how it goes for now.
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| A missed opportunity to to bring in someone with something to prove and a more technical approach to the game in my opinion.
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| Not his biggest fan, he'll always divide opinion too, he has done wherever hes coached. However now is not the time to be bagging him or the players no matter what you think of them. Its early days on our road to recovery and we need to stand together and be vocal in our support of everything that is a part of Wakefield Trinity Wildcats at this moment in time. Lets get behind everyone, clean slate n all that.
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| Quote ="jonh"A missed opportunity to to bring in someone with something to prove and a more technical approach to the game in my opinion.'"
For example? I can't think of anyone, but I will admit my knowledge of other clubs is limited.
Personally I like Kear - I love his enthusiasm, and his "us against the world" mentality is perfect for us, particularly at the moment. I'm not sure what the players think of him, but obviously Glover thinks he's the man for the job, for the moment at least.
Whilst we've had so much change it might also be good to have a steadying influence for now. I think it's time to get behind the club that we have - at least it's still here, and that's good enough for now!
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| Quote ="jonh"A missed opportunity to to bring in someone with something to prove and a more technical approach to the game in my opinion.'"
If only we'd have got Jonh & Mopsey
Big opportunity missed
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| Keep Kear for me. We need stability.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"If only we'd have got Jonh & Mopsey
Big opportunity missed
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Indeed, with Starbug at the helm, to put the icing in the cake; unstoppable!
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| should have gone and given marchy a go
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| Fair play, its just my opinion. I just think Wakefield have been technically very very weak these last few years. You are going forward with a very young inexperienced squad physically lacking probably all of your competitors.
It is vital that you improve technically and I cannot see Kear suddenly being able to do that. For me he like so many others from a certain era like Brian Noble have become very dated in their methods very quickly.
As much as it pains me to say it I would have looked to the Toyota Cup/NRL reserve comp for a more technical coach.
Apologies if you not agree, it is just my opinion.
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| Quote ="jonh"Fair play, its just my opinion. I just think Wakefield have been technically very very weak these last few years. You are going forward with a very young inexperienced squad physically lacking probably all of your competitors.
It is vital that you improve technically and I cannot see Kear suddenly being able to do that. For me he like so many others from a certain era like Brian Noble have become very dated in their methods very quickly.
As much as it pains me to say it I would have looked to the Toyota Cup/NRL reserve comp for a more technical coach.
Apologies if you not agree, it is just my opinion.'"
how dare you have an opinion.
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| Quote ="Disney cat"Did we keep the fitness coach
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is he the head of sports science at the wildcats.
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| Quote ="jonh"Fair play, its just my opinion. I just think Wakefield have been technically very very weak these last few years. You are going forward with a very young inexperienced squad physically lacking probably all of your competitors.
It is vital that you improve technically and I cannot see Kear suddenly being able to do that. For me he like so many others from a certain era like Brian Noble have become very dated in their methods very quickly.
As much as it pains me to say it I would have looked to the Toyota Cup/NRL reserve comp for a more technical coach.
Apologies if you not agree, it is just my opinion.'"
Fair play, that's at least a considered opinion that you've taken time to explain. I don't entirely disagree - there are plenty of coaches out there who are more technical, and Kear is old-fashioned, but we need stability and the motivation to get through this season and compete, and Kear can give us both.
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| Quote ="the cat in the hat"Agreed - he's done so much for us, and God knows as much as we've needed his motivational and man-management skills in the past, we'll need them even more this season!
Not sure about beyond that, but we'll see how it goes for now.'"
Surely thats one of the strongest arguments to get rid, too? With the wholesale changes we have just seen I think now would have been the time to part company. I can't see the point with him myself, I don't think he will be with us next season - so why not give somebody new time to settle in and prepare for what, most likely, is going to be a period of 3 years at the very least in the lower division, somebody who we can build round - get all the changes done in 1 swoop, put a knife through the old regeime and the old board. Somebody who can put things in place now, rather than waste the first of our (hopefully) 3 years in the wilderness.
Very little, if anything, is expected from this club for the remainder of the year - indeed not finishing bottom and a half decent cup run is that is probably all we can hope for, so why not get a new man in and let him go. Presumabley he would be one of our biggest earners and potentially replaced more cheaply leaving much needed funds freed up for other areas.
Lets also not forget we have played some absolutely dire stuff since Easter, and our 5 drives and kick syle is likely to be even less effective than normal given we are so light up front and dont appear to have a kicker. You would have thought if his special "motivational" skills didn't come into play the first game of the season (when we normally start like a house on fire) against Cas with all the adversity surrounding us then what chance has it working now the dust is starting to settle? Also need to remember he wanted out at least twice last year and its only becuase of Ted we didnt let him go.
Paradoxically though, I think seen as he hasn't gone now it would be best for the team if he stayed - chance missed, if you see what I mean and thats not too much of a contradiction.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"It was a question Disney I belive'"
I know I read it wrong. I am
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Surely thats one of the strongest arguments to get rid, too? With the wholesale changes we have just seen I think now would have been the time to part company. I can't see the point with him myself, I don't think he will be with us next season - so why not give somebody new time to settle in and prepare for what, most likely, is going to be a period of 3 years at the very least in the lower division, somebody who we can build round - get all the changes done in 1 swoop, put a knife through the old regeime and the old board. Somebody who can put things in place now, rather than waste the first of our (hopefully) 3 years in the wilderness.
Very little, if anything, is expected from this club for the remainder of the year - indeed not finishing bottom and a half decent cup run is that is probably all we can hope for, so why not get a new man in and let him go. Presumabley he would be one of our biggest earners and potentially replaced more cheaply leaving much needed funds freed up for other areas.
Lets also not forget we have played some absolutely dire stuff since Easter, and our 5 drives and kick syle is likely to be even less effective than normal given we are so light up front and dont appear to have a kicker. You would have thought if his special "motivational" skills didn't come into play the first game of the season (when we normally start like a house on fire) against Cas with all the adversity surrounding us then what chance has it working now the dust is starting to settle? Also need to remember he wanted out at least twice last year and its only becuase of Ted we didnt let him go.
Paradoxically though, I think seen as he hasn't gone now it would be best for the team if he stayed - chance missed, if you see what I mean and thats not too much of a contradiction.'"
Although I really like Kear (he's the best coach we've had whilst I've been a supporter, since 2005) I do see your point and I agree to an extent. I don't think he'll be here next year and an opportunity was there to start afresh. However I still think we will need his motivation and man-management, and he will be a steadying influence (hopefully) in all the turmoil we have suffered.
Also, whilst giving someone new time to settle in before next year may be good, it could also backfire due to:
1) them being really good and then signing for someone else
2) us having a terrible season and getting 'tainted' with that as they go into next year (most likely scenario!)
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