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this bit:
"The RFL is still to decide just how many teams will contest Super League XVII in 2012, meaning that there is still uncertainty over the number of relegation places."



Does that mean we're all reprieved or that anyone without a suitable stadium of their own to play in on the first week is out?

Dicky Lewis needs to take some spin lessons from Dicky Wright. Could do better.

Could be good news as it may mean that they will increase SL to 15 teams, promoting Widnes and keeping the rest in.

Most likely , I would suggest that at this moment the RFL are trying all in their power to find the funds necessary to avoid dropping any club down

That would end the Magic weekend , so 16 will be what they are trying to achieve

Widnes and Halifax/Barrow/Tolouse to come up. Tolouse will get the exception of coming up even though they havent even qualified for application! Well, they probably will.

Yep , Widnes and Toulouse in , nobody out

Ever again

Or Widnes and ANO in and 2 out.

Yep. Sorry but we are out. Thing is we ain't gunna lose the cas derby.

I think we're absolute certainties, plan B or no plan B. RFL playing hardball with Cas?

That's how I see it. Even the RFL, as stupid and ridiculous as they are, aren't going to believe another 'we are going to build a new stadium honest guv' from us.

"The rfl remains committed to working closely with all clubs to help them realise their potential" - what a load of bollox.

[iNigel Wood[/i

=#0000FFWrong!!!! Thats exactly how sporting success or failure should be decided


=#0000FFWrong!!!! In Whose opinion Nigel? I'm certainly not comfotable with it being in yours.

=#0000FFRight!!!! but the measurement should be based on the league tables and not on some divisive criteria concocted in a smokey room by faceless self serving individuals who have forgotten or choose to ignore the meaning of sporting competition..

[iBrian Moore - RU[/i

=#0000FFRight!!!! I hate the bloke and have doubts about his motives for saying this but he's absolutely right. Maybe his view reflects how many outside of our game are viewing, in disbelief, the franchise system and laughing up their sleeves at the RFLs self congratulatory arrogance.

Point 1 - it's not decided in one particular game anyway is it, it's decided over the length of a season. If you're good enough to win enough games over the course of the season why shouldn't you retain your place???

Point 2 - How are Quins or Crusaders more deserving of a place than us??


If the worst does happen then Nigel Wood can expect to receive a few of these questions batted back at him. I'd personally like to be the one wielding the bat!

I agree..

But it depends on the Value question earlier, value to who?

Where have these quotes from Wood come from?

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Sky want them end of

And that does not make them more deserving or of more competetive value and therein lies problem.

I would agree but without sky RL would be swallowed by RU within 10 years IMHO.
Either that or it will forever stay a minority sport and eventually die.

bit like conkers

Show me where it says this!



It doesn't. Sky have set no such requirements - it's an urban myth - but perhaps one allowed to perpetuate by certain people as it suits their requirements!



All Sky want is good, competetive, high quality sport - the end!

Sky get great value for the money they put in, at least in comparison with the Aviva Premiership. If the RFL was to get rid of Crusaders or Quins I don't really think Sky would be that bothered. Like you say, It's suites a certain agenda to peddle that myth!

So if it's not sky's agenda, is it the RFL's? Because it has to be someones, as it follows no logical path for them to be in.

would imagine skys agenda is easy to work out, they need evening live sport in the summer months when footy isnt on, keeps people from cancelling subscitions etc. simple.