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| Having got shot down last week about a possible protest, surely SWAG the time is now for 300 + wakey fans to pay a visit to the council officers and try and find Mr BOX and tell him what we really think? Everyone in our Wakey shirts this guy may destroy our club being a Cas fan etc. Why should we let him hes had enough chances to secure our history and future and the guy is still pi$$ing around putting a spanner in the works. Come on lads the time must be now to show some FIGHT !!! LEIGH managed to get a ground a little place like that half the history of us.
THE WAKEFIELD WALK OF FAME HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMOUS WILL BE THERE FROM WAKEFIELD? THE ANSWER IS JAYNE MACDONALD AND THE REST EX RUGBY PLAYERS WHO PLAYED FOR US AND RUGBY PLAYERS FROM WAKEFIELD. ALL WILL LOOK NICE AND THEY WILL SEE IT BUT YET THAT IDIOT WILL NOT SECURE OUR FUTURE AND MAY LET US DOWN AGAIN !!!! HYPOCRIT !!!
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| Seriously now. Where would any form of anti WMDC/Box protest further the case for NM. The planning proccess is taking it's due course (it took 10 Months for Waystone to get outline planning permission for goodness sake!). If any one has any evidence of any sort of malpractice go to the ombudsman.
Just to clarify my position I would love both teams to have their own stadium, but if not then a share at GH is the only option at this moment in time, (which is fast running out before applications for SL are in January) After that who knows?
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| My answer is same as last time. No protest.
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| I have some sympathy for what you say, but as last time i think guidance is needed as to whether the time is right
I dont agree we should go out like a damp squib without putting up a protest of some sorts
but maybe others closer to the action are still confident of a good outcome and if so we have all been bashing each other and Mr cardboard container for nothing for the last few days
i would hope someone from swag would come on this topic and give guidance
and i wish cas supporters would go back to their own board to extol the virtues of us moving to GH because they are convincing no one on here
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| Quote ="shepwildcat"I have some sympathy for what you say, but as last time i think [uguidance is needed as to whether the time is right [/u
I dont agree we should go out like a damp squib without putting up a protest of some sorts
but maybe others closer to the action are still confident of a good outcome and if so we have all been bashing each other and Mr cardboard container for nothing for the last few days
[ui would hope someone from swag would come on this topic and give guidance[/u
[uand i wish cas supporters would go back to their own board[/u to extol the virtues of us moving to GH because they are convincing no one on here'"
We've already been down this road and you are right about the timing.
They will given time.
Can't really stop them, nor should we.
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| Its the fans that are ruining the club... Iv never known anything like it. From the start of the season negativity has been the mood of a lot of fans. The players have nothing to play for if the fans don't get behind them. I also don't agree that at this moment in time a protest is what is needed. It can quite easily put us further out of the councils favor.
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| Quote ="nicksapheno" I also don't agree that at this moment in time a protest is what is needed. It can quite easily put us further out of the councils favor.'"
How? Can they kill us twice?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"How? Can they kill us twice?'"
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| Quote ="nicksapheno"Its the fans that are ruining the club... Iv never known anything like it. From the start of the season negativity has been the mood of a lot of fans. The players have nothing to play for if the fans don't get behind them.'"
Absolute and utter ballcocks.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Absolute and utter ballcocks.'"
Agreed, lack of confidence once the opposition score two unnanswered tries seems to be our biggest downfall this season.
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Suggest emailing Peter Box, leader, and Denise Jeffery, deputy leader and letting them how you feel, at the end of the day they represent you and need to know your views. It is them who control the cabinet, who decide who gets the posts on the planning committee. It is them who decide to delay the Newmarket planning decision, it is them who agreed to loan both Cas RLFC and The Wakefield Community Trust land to borrow money against and are now threatening to withdraw this unless one party or the other decides to share ( Express this week ). It is them who hold our destiny in their hands, it is them who are saying only one stadium when the district has had 3 stadiums for over a 100 years. It is them who can allow new jobs to be created by granting planning at Newmarket and allow the Community trust and developer to provide much needed first class leisure and sport facilities. It is Box and Jeffery who are advocating the spending of tens of thousands of rate payers pounds on a pointless revue of the Glasshoughton and Newmarket site. Box and Jeffery need to know your thoughts. You can let them know by email at pbox@wakefield.gov.uk and djeffery@wakefield.gov.uk
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Suggest emailing Peter Box, leader, and Denise Jeffery, deputy leader and letting them how you feel, at the end of the day they represent you and need to know your views. It is them who control the cabinet, who decide who gets the posts on the planning committee. It is them who decide to delay the Newmarket planning decision, it is them who agreed to loan both Cas RLFC and The Wakefield Community Trust land to borrow money against and are now threatening to withdraw this unless one party or the other decides to share ( Express this week ). It is them who hold our destiny in their hands, it is them who are saying only one stadium when the district has had 3 stadiums for over a 100 years. It is them who can allow new jobs to be created by granting planning at Newmarket and allow the Community trust and developer to provide much needed first class leisure and sport facilities. It is Box and Jeffery who are advocating the spending of tens of thousands of rate payers pounds on a pointless revue of the Glasshoughton and Newmarket site. Box and Jeffery need to know your thoughts. You can let them know by email at pbox@wakefield.gov.uk and djeffery@wakefield.gov.uk
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Having got shot down last week about a possible protest, surely SWAG the time is now for 300 + wakey fans to pay a visit to the council officers and try and find Mr BOX and tell him what we really think? Everyone in our Wakey shirts this guy may destroy our club being a Cas fan etc. Why should we let him hes had enough chances to secure our history and future and the guy is still pi$$ing around putting a spanner in the works. Come on lads the time must be now to show some FIGHT !!! LEIGH managed to get a ground a little place like that half the history of us.
[uTHE WAKEFIELD WALK OF FAME HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMOUS WILL BE THERE FROM WAKEFIELD? THE ANSWER IS JAYNE MACDONALD AND THE REST EX RUGBY PLAYERS WHO PLAYED FOR US AND RUGBY PLAYERS FROM WAKEFIELD.[/u ALL WILL LOOK NICE AND THEY WILL SEE IT BUT YET THAT IDIOT WILL NOT SECURE OUR FUTURE AND MAY LET US DOWN AGAIN !!!! HYPOCRIT !!!'"
Now theres a suprise, what modesty you have shown by not including yourself with the rest of the famous people from Wakey admire your sentiments thought, but I am not sure that they are appropriate.
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| The advantage that Leigh had is that they are part of Wigan M.D.C, a council that cares about the sporting history of both it's clubs and did everything in it's power to help them achieve their ambitions.The eventual outcome could be 2 Super League clubs in Wigan M.D.C and none in Wakefield M.D.C if Mr Box and his allies persist in their current duplicitous attitude !
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| Many of us have sent letters and its there reply is not worth the paper its wrote on tis pure lies and Mr Box never replies. Time for action !
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| if there was any protest to be made it should of been done while sky was there the other day, we was so far up our backside with the teams performance we forgot all about the stadium,
the clubs idea of an after photo shot is only reliant on a good win and not what what we have seen recently so I still think it wouldn't work, but we do need tv coverage some how
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| Snowie i see you are warming to the idea. Well the WAkey express would be easy to get involved. We need at least 200 + wakey fans and a organised protest will help this get off the ground. Most of all I want us to show Mr Box and the council how much we love the club and this will show them with a peaceful but yet meaningful protest with banners/ wakey flags etc and shouting about the ground at Newmarket. Constructive argument and will let them know we are bothered.
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| Quote ="nicksapheno"Its the fans that are ruining the club... Iv never known anything like it. From the start of the season negativity has been the mood of a lot of fans. The players have nothing to play for if the fans don't get behind them. I also don't agree that at this moment in time a protest is what is needed. It can quite easily put us further out of the councils favor.'"
Apart from their pay packets.
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| and personal pride, future career.
I think you are underselling them and overselling yourself to say they only play for the crowd response.
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| Actually its the lack iof fans that is ruining / has ruined the club, protest all you like, wont make a scrap of difference, we do not have the fans base to sustain a move to a rented stadium and be in any way competitive, the dreamers on here may just dream on, it isnt gonna happen and keep wtrlfc alive without a miracle.
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| Quote ="chapster"Actually its the lack iof fans that is ruining / has ruined the club, protest all you like, wont make a scrap of difference, we do not have the fans base to sustain a move to a rented stadium and be in any way competitive, the dreamers on here may just dream on, it isnt gonna happen and keep wtrlfc alive without a miracle.'"
And it's the quality of play that leads to a lack of fans and a lack of resources that leads to poor quality play etc etc.
Agree with you - we're in some kind of depressing infinite loop and short of one of us winning the Euromillions, I don't see a way out.
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| Quote ="bren2k"And it's the quality of play that leads to a lack of fans and a lack of resources that leads to poor quality play etc etc.
Agree with you - we're in some kind of depressing infinite loop and short of one of us winning the Euromillions, I don't see a way out.'"
We lack the number of fans we need to become a real force in the game even when we're playing well. Add facilities and pricing structures to that loop, and I reckon you could close it.
Euromillions is our last chance. Get buying those tickets, folks.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Snowie i see you are warming to the idea. Well the WAkey express would be easy to get involved. We need at least 200 + wakey fans and a organised protest will help this get off the ground. Most of all I want us to show Mr Box and the council how much we love the club and this will show them with a peaceful but yet meaningful protest with banners/ wakey flags etc and shouting about the ground at Newmarket. Constructive argument and will let them know we are bothered.'"
I'm all for pushing it in someway but like the photo shoot the timing was wrong and can do as much damage as the nimbies did with there video, I do hope that the club are holding an ace card in which there are going to play in the coming weeks, but I doubt it
I do feel that the club has shot its self in the foot both with the Broughy saga and John Kear being allowed to negotiate with Catalan and this has left fans demoralised, that with a very bad run of form has us at an all time low,
in both situations it was to try and get compensation so to try and get fans on board is going to be a thankful task,
while being left with egg on our faces any other club would of allowed JK to go but we was in a no win situation we shouldn't of allowed this to happen in the first place,
as for a move to oakwell, I do agree with on the problems that we will encounter if we do move there but what if Newmarket has been given permission Chapster, would you not at least support the club at Barnsley while it was being made, I would
I'm afraid that the club has to come before performances as hard as it is to take and there's more ruff times ahead,
while we are being met with obstacles in which we keep fighting past I do think it time the club put a defiant stance now with their intentions, us fans can only back the club, but if I owned the club I wouldn't sitting back right now I would be challenging the RFL and government/council to get what we deserve for the community
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