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| I'm sure that the club and John Kear are already considering whether to offer extensions to those players OOC at the end of the season. All the threequarters are contracted for next season so it's likely our pack will take a complete overhaul ready for 2011. Players OOC are;
Paul Cooke
Kyle Bibb
Paul King
Tevita Leo Latu?
Glenn Morrision
Paul Johnson
Danny Kirmond (Loan finishes)
Jason Demetriou
Out of those i'd hope we offer King another one year deal, keep Kirmond after his initial loan and offer Latu a 2 year deal by which time Davey will hopefully be a permanent fixture in the 17. What's everyone elses thoughts?
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| Id keep, king, morro, johnson, kirmond, and latu.
Cooke, bibb and Jd can look at other options.
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| Paul Cooke/ let him bugger off now
Kyle Bibb/release
Paul King/ 1 year
Tevita Leo Latu?/ release
Glenn Morrision/ 1 year maybe
Paul Johnson release
Danny Kirmond (Loan finishes) not impressed
Jason Demetriou/ release
how the hell have we got into a situation where all the threequarters are contracted for next season I would try to offloads the bloody lot Barr Murphy
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"Paul Cooke/ let him bugger off now
Kyle Bibb/release
Paul King/ 1 year
Tevita Leo Latu?/ release
Glenn Morrision/ 1 year maybe
Paul Johnson release
Danny Kirmond (Loan finishes) not impressed
Jason Demetriou/ release
how the hell have we got into a situation where all the threequarters are contracted for next season I would try to offloads the bloody lot Barr Murphy'"
They had a pretty good season last year, I can only imagine the complaining on here had we let the majority of them go.
Since Kirmond regained his mach fitness I have been very impressed with his endeavours.
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| Morrision is a tough call. He's an obvious talent and a great leader but is likely to spend time on the sideline and takes a quot spot. I guess the call JK has to make is whether we require his leadership so much so that he's prepared to take the risk that he may be injured for a significant amount of the season.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Morrision is a tough call. He's an obvious talent and a great leader but is likely to spend time on the sideline and takes a quot spot. I guess the call JK has to make is whether we require his leadership so much so that he's prepared to take the risk that he may be injured for a significant amount of the season.'"
If JD and Morro go thats a hell of a lot of leadership gone.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Morrision is a tough call. He's an obvious talent and a great leader [ubut is likely to spend time on the sideline and takes a quot spot.[/u I guess the call JK has to make is whether we require his leadership so much so that he's prepared to take the risk that he may be injured for a significant amount of the season.'"
If he had knee problems or prone to other injuries of that nature I would agree but Its a bit harsh on tesco to assume he will pick up more injuries than anybody else. Up until he broke his thumb which can happen to anybody he spent more time on the field than any of the other forwards, I would take a chance on him personally.
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| Quote ="chissitt"If he had knee problems or prone to other injuries of that nature I would agree but Its a bit harsh on tesco to assume he will pick up more injuries than anybody else. Up until he broke his thumb which can happen to anybody he spent more time on the field than any of the other forwards, I would take a chance on him personally.'"
Very true, i guess i'm hypothesizing that the chance of injury is higher in an older player coupled with the justification of a quota spot. That said, if he does stay injury free he'd be a massive gain but it is quite risky especially for a club like our's who has limited resources
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| Quote ="chissitt"If he had knee problems or prone to other injuries of that nature I would agree but Its a bit harsh on tesco to assume he will pick up more injuries than anybody else. Up until he broke his thumb which can happen to anybody he spent more time on the field than any of the other forwards, I would take a chance on him personally.'"
thing to remember with morro is he has history for missing a big chunk of season. This was the reason why we, bulls, didnt offer him a new deal. He isnt prone to any particular injury but, probably because of the way he throws himself into game 100% every week, he tends to pick up injuries all over and they tend to be ones that keep him out for a while. No doubt he's a fantastic player when fit, the question is can you afford to tie a quota spot up on a player your not likely to get a full season out of. bradford decided it was too big a risk. your board may decide otherwise depending on if you need the quota spot or not.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Since Kirmond regained his mach fitness I have been very impressed with his endeavours.'"
Pretty much the best tackler in the team at the moment. I'd play him at centre instead of Gleeson.
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| Paul Cooke=BURN HIM
Kyle Bibb=SELL HIM ON E BAY
Paul King=SCAPE GOAT 2011
Tevita Leo Latu?=SEND HIM BACK
Glenn Morrision=PAY AS YOU PLAY
Paul Johnson=AS ABOVE
Danny Kirmond (Loan finishes)POOR SOD
Jason Demetriou GIVE 5 YEAR CONTRACT
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| Quote ="mat"[uthing to remember with morro is he has history for missing a big chunk of season.[/u This was the reason why we, bulls, didnt offer him a new deal. He isnt prone to any particular injury but, probably because of the way he throws himself into game 100% every week, he tends to pick up injuries all over and they tend to be ones that keep him out for a while. No doubt he's a fantastic player when fit, the question is can you afford to tie a quota spot up on a player your not likely to get a full season out of. bradford decided it was too big a risk. your board may decide otherwise depending on if you need the quota spot or not.'"
I did not know that, unlike yourself what watched him week in and week out, I based my opinion on the fact that until he broke his thumb he was an ever present on the field till about the 5th game when he was subbed. As you and trin till death said though the problem is do you take a punt on his fitness coupled with tying up a quota spot, who'd be a SL coach eh.
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| some people may not know this but morro not only is part of our first team squad but spends alot of time out coaching our under 18s side. for me the quota space he takes up is one well used by the club. Give him another year!
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| Paul Cooke - Get Rid.
Kyle Bibb - Get Rid.
Paul King - 2 year - Been one of the stand out players for me.
Tevita Leo Latu - 2 year - adds alot of versitility to our game.
Glenn Morrision - 1 year - Need to keep hold of Tesco
Paul Johnson - 1 year - Nothing special, just a work horse. Need some grafters in the team aswell as creativity.
Danny Kirmond (Loan finishes) - Try and get him on a permenant deal
Jason Demetriou - Offer him a back room staff opportunity.
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| Would Latu have to re apply for his visa? Since he signed his last contract they have tightened up on who they hand visa's out to and as we all know he has a bit of a chequered past! If this is not a problem then i would be happy for him to sign another contract.
Of the rest i would think about 1 year deals for King, Johnson & Morrison but this would very much depend on who else was available and how much money they wanted.
Bibb would surely have gone previously if anyone would have taken him
Listening to JD talk at the Audience With lead me to believe that he knows this is his last season.
But if there was a chance to get Kirmond i would snap him up. Young British forward who is only going to get better. Tackles very well and hits the line at pace. Would be surprised if the Giants let him go.
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| I think Morro gets a lot of injuries because he gets a hell of a lot of ball and doesn't go missing in defence. Only issue I have with him is he passes when he shouldn't and doesn't when he should.
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| Paul Cooke- Get playing with the team or shut
Kyle Bibb- had his chance and missed it
Paul King- Keep
Tevita Leo Latu? - He can add something when we look flat/
better if the team knows what he's doing
Glenn Morrision missing his effort
Paul Johnson- Depends if there is anyone younger available
Danny Kirmond (Loan finishes)- Decent player
Jason Demetriou Had a good innings
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"
Jason Demetriou GIVE 5 YEAR CONTRACT'"
May not be the player he was but he bleeds red white and blue! Add him to the Johnny Thompson camp
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| I know JK has to look at this isue now, but ATEOTD it depends who comes in as to who goes, along with the form of the younger players who are currently on the fringes, Trout, etc. I think the Quota also reduces again next season so a lot of thought needs to be given to the matter. That said, I`d still be delighted to see the back of Cooke & Bibb asap!
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| Paul Cooke - don't let the door slam on your way out please
Kyle Bibb - b'bye
Paul King - 1 more year
Tevita Leo Latu - keep
Glenn Morrision - 1 more year
Paul Johnson - release
Danny Kirmond (Loan finishes) - try to keep
Jason Demetriou - remain at the club in a non-playing role (coaching, community, ambassador etc)
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| Peolpe keep stating we need to keep JD in some capacity and that's all very well, but any role we 'create' is going to cost. Are we a) able to afford this and b) will people be happy with us spending some of our limited resources in this manner?
Don't disagree with the idea in principle but it's not as easy as it may sound imo
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| Quote ="Schunter"Peolpe keep stating we need to keep JD in some capacity and that's all very well, but any role we 'create' is going to cost. Are we a) able to afford this and b) will people be happy with us spending some of our limited resources in this manner?
Don't disagree with the idea in principle but it's not as easy as it may sound imo'"
True you can't just invent a job, if theres a current postion open then i'm all for it.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"True you can't just invent a job, if theres a current postion open then i'm all for it.'"
You can; it's the money to pay the wages you can't invent!
I'm sure though that between now and the off season, something could be worked out using natural wastage and maybe some grant funding, to get JD into schools and other community settings, promoting the club, the game and all round great-blokeness, which he has in spades.
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| If we offered Jd a role with the coaching staff as a specialist skills coach for 15-20k he could then take a part time contract to make up some more money if he needed it. win win for both parties and i'm certain he work wonders with the likes of gleeson, george trout morton blanch, and other young players. fat is john and beans have been out of game a long time and he may bring some fresh ideas. worth a thought i would think.
Quote ="bren2k"You can; it's the money to pay the wages you can't invent!
I'm sure though that between now and the off season, something could be worked out using natural wastage and maybe some grant funding, to get JD into schools and other community settings, promoting the club, the game and all round great-blokeness, which he has in spades.'"
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| Quote ="bren2k"[uYou can; it's the money to pay the wages you can't invent![/u
I'm sure though that between now and the off season, something could be worked out using natural wastage and maybe some grant funding, to get JD into schools and other community settings, promoting the club, the game and all round great-blokeness, which he has in spades.'"
Yes you are correct.
IMO if he wants some sort of "role" and we can find a way to do that then its no more than he deserves.
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