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| Not saying now but in the season if there is somebody unhappy some where i.e. a scrum half we need one. Dobson came on loan to Wigan and did wonders and he was just a reserve player. We need organisation with a good scrum half. Jeffries for me offers nothing around the ruck. Obst latu hookers as latu is not a back rower in a million years. Davey as back up hooker.Paul Cooke to loose forward. Not criticising or anything but with all the £ we must have if the opportuinity arises in THE SEASON we still need a proper scrum half. AMEN .
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Jeffries for me offers nothing around the ruck'"
Quote Not criticising or anything.'"
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| surely a prop comes first
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| no a brain transplant for the topic starter must come before a prop surely
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| Quote ="desmond decker"no a brain transplant for the topic starter must come before a prop surely'"
Now now Desmond thats not very nice.
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| Come on NGBC plays a fantastic role as Pantomime Villain, Makes comments that lead to the best discussions on here, enjoy that people have different opinions and celebrate diversity
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| no doubt about it we need a scrum half and a centre Jessie Joe Parker is worth looking at
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| Must be good up hill into the wind playing there
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| Does it make much difference whether Jeffries is 7 or 6, other than at the scrum? Jeffries will come into the line at the same point he would have done with Brough there, as in open play, Cooke has just taken Brough's place, hasn't he? Maybe it didn't work out as well with Jeffries before because he was given the role of playmaker, whereas now we have playmakers, and so Jeffries does now what was Rooney's job when they were both at 7 and 6.
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| Half-backs can't offer much when the forwards are stood still! Cooke was having to come up with miracle balls as there was suck a lack of movement. But that said in a tight derby match with Wigan monday we didn't have to break our backs putting the game away. Only beef I had was BJ only taking the line on once or twice as he looks like he'll ghost through everytime.
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| What a suprise desmond decker with something useful to say once again. As he has not a brain to start something that raises a debate. Jeffries needs to take the line on a lot more as when he is in flow he is hard to tackle. We do need a scrum half any half decent one will do on loan for the season.
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| I thought we should have looked to take McNally from the Giants in the Brough transfer.
I would be happy for us to "make do for 2010" (because lets be honest we're doing VERY WELL) if we had a top class no. 7 signed on for 2011. Someone in the mold of Finch/Thurston/Barba.
We have to money and quota space, gone on and get a top class no.7, everything else we have coming through our ranks (- Murphy, prop- Gledhill, wing- Morton, 2nd row- Annekin, hooker- Davey).
When you look at that list of GOOD, LOCAL prospects coming through you have to wonder how anyone could call us a struggling franchise?? This is what the SC and franchising is all about, breeding and blooding our own talent. If other clubs in SL had the same commitment to youth we might push the Aussies a bit further.
With quality kids being blooded into our team, who are receiving coaching which is on a par with the best in the country I for one think exciting times await us in the not too distant future.
(back to my original point, my choice of quality no. 7 to import would be Ben Barba- Magic's best mate)
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| I know what you are saying but with a scrum half in the season not saying now maybe a aussie thats unhappy get him for the rest of the season we would create all sorts of damage and would be contenders on our day without a scrum half we aint going to win anything this season.
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| Why change the habit of 30 years
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"no doubt about it we need a scrum half and a centre Jessie Joe Parker is worth looking at'"
Totally agree with this, also wouldnt mind looking at menzie yere from sheffield along with young fijian arron groom, been injured of late but wouldnt mind trying to get them as cant imagine either would take much persuasion or money?????
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Not saying now but in the season if there is somebody unhappy some where i.e. a scrum half we need one. Dobson came on loan to Wigan and did wonders and he was just a reserve player. We need organisation with a good scrum half. Jeffries for me offers nothing around the ruck. Obst latu hookers as latu is not a back rower in a million years. Davey as back up hooker.Paul Cooke to loose forward. Not criticising or anything but with all the £ we must have if the opportuinity arises in THE SEASON we still need a proper scrum half. AMEN .'"
the most entertaining poster on here, il raise a glass to you
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"the most entertaining poster on here, il raise a glass to you
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Not too many i hope me mams still got hump on with yer over dinnertime
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| I'm sure King John has a plan in mind.
With the amount of young talent coming through what we need to do is keep on building our faith within that, adding players of proven quality to compliment the local talent which is doing us proud (and the key to any sustainable sports club).
In terms of the no.7 role what i think we need to do is 2 fold.
1. Look for a no.7 of proven quality for 2011 (ideally no older than 26/27).
2. Sign the best young no.7's in our district, who will be mentored by the proven no.7 we bring in.
With the success rate of the youngsters breaking into and establishing themselves within our first team i can imagine the prospect of signing for WTW a very attractive prospect for local whiz kids. We have become very astute at signing the best youth in the district since the arrival of King John.
The production of your own players is the sign of a healthy franchise, and will look great for us come this time next year.
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| Quote ="mopseyslovechild"Not too many i hope me mams still got hump on with yer over dinnertime
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why was the Yorkshire's burnt
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| Bit harsh on Bj. He has only just come back from injury and was playing really well before that.Bj and Cooke will do just fine.
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| I think this post is quite correct after the wigan game !
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| i dont always agree with you ngb4c, and sometimes i do see where your comming from mate, but from where i looking i would say a prop and centre are more important to us than a new scrum half, think jefferies at stand off, obst at scrum half and cooke to loose would work, with latu and davey as hookers, it all about opinions tho mate at the end of the day we all support same team and only want us to have success i guess, lets hope mr kear can sort it .
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| sorry but Sam Obst is not a scrum half his distribution and decision making from hooker isn't the best. He is a fantastic scampering hooker but no organiser.
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| its all about opinions ossett cat, and you have some merit in what you say mate, he did get division one player of the season at whitehaven playing at scrum half, next season i think we should properly replace broughy, but this i just feel a prop or centre would be more use, but at end of day only mr kear will decide mate
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