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| The kind of signing the RFL are trying to stop SL clubs from making.
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| The kind of signing any progresive club should stop signing!
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"The kind of signing the RFL are trying to stop SL clubs from making.'"
Quote ="kinleycat"The kind of signing any progresive club should stop signing!'"
Correct. What Super League really doesn't need is for its clubs to be signing players who aren't even in the NRL!
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Correct. What Super League really doesn't need is for its clubs to be signing players who aren't even in the NRL!'"
I haven't even heard his name until earlier today, and certainly don't know if there is any truth in this, but I am old enough and wise enough to hear what those who are responsible for this type of thing think of the player before I make any judgement.
So he's not playing NRL - we have no idea why that is the case. We have a young English lad we are trying to sign who wasn't even good enough for our neighbours, but we think differently. Gareth Ellis couldn't buy a club at one stage; Aaron Murphy came from the Leeds set up - there are loads of examples where we have proved that our judgement is good in these matters - and that's all it is, judgement.
At the age quoted, this lad sounds ready for first team football. The truth is that most of our rising stars are not - yet, and it will take a year or two to get there. I fully understand the reasons why folk would not be as keen on this signing, but let's get some facts before we condemn!
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| Quote ="TRB"At the age quoted, this lad sounds ready for first team football. The truth is that most of our rising stars are not - yet, and it will take a year or two to get there. I fully understand the reasons why folk would not be as keen on this signing, but let's get some facts before we condemn!
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I've never heard of him either - nor had I heard of Frank Winterstein. I'd much rather every SL club looked closer to home for players rather than looking to the Aussie leagues every time.
Must be a prop shortage over here!
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| if he is any good - why hasn't the coaches little brother signed him?
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I've never heard of him either - nor had I heard of Frank Winterstein. I'd much rather every SL club looked closer to home for players rather than looking to the Aussie leagues every time.
Must be a prop shortage over here!
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I don't think it's a case of us not looking over here, but there is an issue over the quality, cost and availability of players over here.
I am utterly convinced in the work the club is doing in trying to develop our own talent pool - as supported by the T-R-Y Squadbuilder scheme - and that this is also part of a much bigger picture involving all of the SL clubs (although we're one of the better ones at it ), but without a succesful first team, playing in front of decent crowds, watching a winning team; and without a SL place - all the development in the world will be worth diddly.
I know those who don't like the idea of this will accept it begrudgingly if it happens (on the basis of it being our club), but I for one beleive that we are still on the improve trend! Whatever happens!
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| Am I missing something here? If he is australian and I assume he is if he is playing there, how come we have room for him and not for Stosic.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Am I missing something here? If he is australian and I assume he is if he is playing there, how come we have room for him and not for Stosic.'"
played for Samoa but its still the same does make you think though
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| Quote ="andy huddy"www.newtownjets.com.au/2010-gallery/2010-players.php# player where intrested in according to daily start big bloke at 6ft 3 and nearly 19st'"
can we not go after his teammate Charlie Herekotukutuku?! Now I'd like to see someone make a song for him!!!
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| Quote ="TRB"I haven't even heard his name until earlier today, and certainly don't know if there is any truth in this, but I am old enough and wise enough to hear what those who are responsible for this type of thing think of the player before I make any judgement.
So he's not playing NRL - we have no idea why that is the case. We have a young English lad we are trying to sign who wasn't even good enough for our neighbours, but we think differently. Gareth Ellis couldn't buy a club at one stage; Aaron Murphy came from the Leeds set up - there are loads of examples where we have proved that our judgement is good in these matters - and that's all it is, judgement.
At the age quoted, this lad sounds ready for first team football. The truth is that most of our rising stars are not - yet, and it will take a year or two to get there. I fully understand the reasons why folk would not be as keen on this signing, but let's get some facts before we condemn!
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Not condemning!! Merely pointing out that as a progresive club we should be promoting and producing, where that is not possible, and without being overly aware of either player, James would for us, be a better long term prospect, and be a progression of English talent and the English set up in general. That should be a primary concern.
Don't condemn those who don't share your opinion!!
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| Id like someone to make a song for anyone
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| Quote ="gowerthegroap"can we not go after his teammate Charlie Herekotukutuku?! Now I'd like to see someone make a song for him!!!'"
Bet the club shop would run out of the letter 'U'. Good job there's no medium shirts as the name would'nt fit on.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Am I missing something here? If he is australian and I assume he is if he is playing there, how come we have room for him and not for Stosic.'"
Trinity still have Stosic's non fed space available. This guy must have the necessary documentation to ensure he qualify's as a non fed, something Stosic didn't.
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| It said something in the daily express about him having some form of link to the USA.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Not condemning!! Merely pointing out that as a progresive club we should be promoting and producing, where that is not possible, and without being overly aware of either player, James would for us, be a better long term prospect, and be a progression of English talent and the English set up in general. That should be a primary concern.
=#BF0040Don't condemn those who don't share your opinion!!
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Agreed, but we can't make silk purses out of every sows ear - not that I'm saying that James is a sows ear - well maybe I am.... What I'm trying to say is that if our Football Committee don't think James is good enough quality, nor that he will be, then we shouldn't sign him just because he's available. I know that will not be the case as cash is in short supply and we will only spend it where we think it's worth it - that can sometimes lead to decent English players going elsewhere - e.g. Wilkes - there's no way we would have been right to try and match the deal he got at 'Quins!
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| Quote ="gowerthegroap"It said something in the daily express about him having some form of link to the USA.'"
American Samoan to be precise, but if he has gone from being playing NRL matches with St George/Illawarra and Canterbury to the Newtown Jets, something tells me thanks, but no thanks.
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| Quote ="TRB"Humpffff!
Agreed, but we can't make silk purses out of every sows ear - not that I'm saying that James is a sows ear - well maybe I am.... What I'm trying to say is that if our Football Committee don't think James is good enough quality, nor that he will be, then we shouldn't sign him just because he's available. I know that will not be the case as cash is in short supply and we will only spend it where we think it's worth it - that can sometimes lead to decent English players going elsewhere - e.g. Wilkes - there's no way we would have been right to try and match the deal he got at 'Quins!
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| I presume that all those in favour of not siging more overseas players will be in attendance on friday night at the SQUADBUILDER event, that way we can find our own talent and give them a chance.
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| Quote ="Wakefieldite"American Samoan to be precise, but if he has gone from being playing NRL matches with St George/Illawarra and Canterbury to the Newtown Jets, something tells me thanks, but no thanks.'"
on your theory then,James Stotic Gold Coast Titans-Wakefield Trinity-East Tigers, would you have him here?.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I've never heard of him either - nor had I heard of Frank Winterstein. I'd much rather every SL club looked closer to home for players rather than looking to the Aussie leagues every time.
Must be a prop shortage over here!
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From what I have heard (only rumour, but decent source) we are after a good young british prop............so there must be some
And if the name I have been given is true, I'd be very happy
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