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| Do you think it's time to do away with this ridiculous advantage rule.
Surely if an attacking side knocks on, the defending side has an advantage as they have the ball, what difference does it make if they are 10 metres further back from where the ball was dropped.
Am i missing something?
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| Quote ="Wakey Wakey"Do you think it's time to do away with this ridiculous advantage rule.
Surely if an attacking side knocks on, the defending side has an advantage as they have the ball, what difference does it make if they are 10 metres further back from where the ball was dropped.
Am i missing something?'"
In that case, 10 metres.
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| 10 metres further back but now attacking, surely that's an advantage
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| Quote ="Wakey Wakey"Do you think it's time to do away with this ridiculous advantage rule.
Surely if an attacking side knocks on, the defending side has an advantage as they have the ball, what difference does it make if they are 10 metres further back from where the ball was dropped.
Am i missing something?'" yes you are
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| I vaguely know what you mean. In Australia they don't bother stopping the game for a dropped ball that ends up in opposition hands. It's got to be an advantage for the fans to see the game flow rather than pull it up, scrum down etc. It seems to work for their game, it's the same for both sides.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"icon_confused.gif yes you are'"
Like the rest of your post
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| Quote ="Wakey Wakey"10 metres further back but now attacking, surely that's an advantage'"
It is, but a disadvantage compared to having the ball where the incident took place. Those 10 metres, or whatever, could make a significant difference, particularly deep in your own half. The team who has made the mistake should not gain any advantage from doing so, which is effectively what would happen.
I could see there being an argument for scrapping the advantage rule and just blowing for a scrum straight away, but I'd disagree as I'd rather see play carry on without a stoppage if possible. The opposing team deserves the right to try to gain an advantage, but knock ons, by their very nature, are unpredictable and at times the opponents will get the ball but in a position that is easily smothered in defence, at other times they will be able to make good advantage from the broken play. If the former, he team who have erred have still made the mistake and so the resulting play has to account for this.
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| Better to leave it as it is. If you scrap the advantage rule, the offending team would play on and probably hoof the loose ball as far down the field as they can. At the moment, it allows someone to make an assessment, although I wish they would run it for a bit longer, and if the lack of advantage is marginal, play on and build some quick momentum.
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| Quote ="bloomers"It is, but a disadvantage compared to having the ball where the incident took place. Those 10 metres, or whatever, could make a significant difference, particularly deep in your own half. The team who has made the mistake should not gain any advantage from doing so, which is effectively what would happen.
I could see there being an argument for scrapping the advantage rule and just blowing for a scrum straight away, but I'd disagree as I'd rather see play carry on without a stoppage if possible. The opposing team deserves the right to try to gain an advantage, but knock ons, by their very nature, are unpredictable and at times the opponents will get the ball but in a position that is easily smothered in defence, at other times they will be able to make good advantage from the broken play. If the former, he team who have erred have still made the mistake and so the resulting play has to account for this.'"
Agree with all of what you said, however why not scrap the scrum alltogether! My preference would be to see if an advantage can be gained and if not just take the the ball to where it was dropped/knocked on and take a tap from there. Scrum is a joke takes too much time up.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Agree with all of what you said, however why not scrap the scrum alltogether! My preference would be to see if an advantage can be gained and if not just take the the ball to where it was dropped/knocked on and take a tap from there. Scrum is a joke takes too much time up.'"
it gets all the forwards in one place though and allows the backs to have some daylight. keep em i say
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| We don't see half as many set moves from scrums as we used to do.
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| We don`t see scrums like we used to!!
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