Yet another fine weekend - spoilt only by the lack of any kind of entertainment on a rugby field.



4/5 drives and a kick - into touch at that - we offered absolutely no threat to Harlequins at all - despite dominating the first half!!!!!!!



I cannot believe what I am watching right now - it is garbage. We have too many players who are not up to the job and a lot more who are, but are just not putting the performances in - even some of our 'bankers' were not at the races for most of today.

The way we are playing this will be a very long season - ultimately ending with us in or around the bottom 3 - as most pundits predicted.

I am really beginning to question the reasons why I bother with this weekly circus - it is draining far too much energy from me only to be disappointed time after time.

This club sorely needs that big performance - win or lose - which will offer hope to the regulars and the part-timers that we are at least in the race. Today, after once again flying from the blocks, we froze - especially after the half time interval when we genuinely awful.

Sorry folks - it was not good and I am not at all happy - TBH I am fed up with it - completely!

Massive over reaction for you there TRB. Yes we threw it away after a good solid first half but we were in contention it's not like we are getting thrashed. Things have been much worse and this team are good enough to turn this around.

Blimey Phil!!!!!

No positives???

he's not been the same since his birthday

So why am I watching that dirvvle? We have lacked go-forward; solid defence; ideas; timing and pace - and I am losing the will to support them.

I thought we were truly awful at times today - and never felt that we were genuinely in the game. In fact our best chance went when we spurned the 2-points which could have reduced the defecit from 7 to 5 points - ridiculous decision 30m out straight in front!

Our soft underbelly is back - just like 2005/6 - and the opposition just say boo and we roll over.

What really hurts is my own stupidity for believing that this side could be different. There will be many reasons behind why we are playing as we are - but the fact is that we are a poor side on the field of play!

Blaymire played well on one leg. Ryan is a genuine threat. Scully was strong. Snitch / Pitts worked hard - but the hard work doesn't lead anywhere when you then put the ball out of play and don't offer a challenge to the opposition. Rubbish tactics!

Can not comment on todays game as I did not go...and I am not jumping on the bandwagon because we have lost four on the bounce BUT

The simple facts are we have nothing at halfback Brough does not take the line on enough, he has the pace to but does not utilise it, 6 is non entity. If Drew is quiet, kept quiet or has a poor game we have no idea as he seems to be the only one who will take the line on. We then resort to being a rugby union team and our hopes of a try mainly rest on the kick.This was said by the summariser on Radio Leeds today, tried their best but did not have any know how in the last twenty.

I admire John Kear greatly and he has brought this club on leaps and bounds but we still look two or three yards slower than other teams our forwards dont run onto the ball.

I have faith in Kear but we need to sort it out when in possession or else it is going to be like each season when he has been in charge.

Agreed, the kicking was dire today and tactics wrong. However we haven't become a poor team overnight with Stosic back we should have that bit more go forward. The two tries in the first half were well worked running the angles.

As to the penalty decision was that the offside from the scrum? If so I thought you couldn't take the 2 from a differential penalty.

Im not sure Wakey were that bad. You were certainly the better team in the first half. I couldn't understand why you kept kicking the ball dead on the 5th when you could have asked questions with other types of kicks.

In the second half Quins came out well and got hold of the match. Your try came from 3 penalties back to back and a "back to 6" which was to much for us.

Speaking to a couple of the Quins forwards they said you had a rough pack. You weren't far of getting the points

No it was earlier than that one - I think it may have been for interference.

The standard of our play though is just terrible at times. We are left to look silly a lot of the time and one of the primary reasons is that there is no work off the ball - no angles, no genuine 'option' runners, resulting in us being forced into a kick - or is that no-one wants to run because we are expected to kick - I don't know, but it's crap to watch!

We dominated - but Quins had more scoring opportunities courtesy of a better kicking game and by asking questions of the full-back and wingers. We got in good positions then kicked the ball out of play - it's as good as a pass back to you - unforgiveable IMO!

Did not go today as I'm 4,000 miles away but will be back for the Huddersfield game and I hope for a better result.

I can understand TRB's point of view as I often fel the same way but the fact is we have the smallest wage bill in SL and until we are able to spend the full cap we are'nt going to challenge for honours - fact.

The question is how do we increase our income in order to compete. I don't have all the answers but I have mentioned on a previous thread offering incentives to attract people to buy shares is one. There must be other ways and I have also mentioned previously about bringing in someone like Peter Deakin (who sadly is no longer with us) who transformed Bradford and Warrington. You have to speculaute to accumulate - the Club seem to me to think that people should just turn up to support the Club - you have to do something that makes them want to come.

Quins kicking game was far better than ours all game. We were crying out for some bombs to be put up but only got one well into second half which did cause problems. That said they only scored in the first half off the back of penalties but we should have scored more with the possession we had. Tony Martin only has one idea near the line and it only even looked like coming off once today.

Watch this space!

care to enlighten us

That is one of the things that is beginning to bother me more and more as each day / week / season progresses. I used a slightly cruder phrase a couple of weeks ago to both Ted & Eric when I suggested that we need a professional gob-e - but the gist is the same. We need a voice and a character who's role is it to rally the folk of Wakefield around. There is no magic in this - apart from genuine charisma - just a load of focussed, on-message, hard work. Yes, it will cost money, but, IMO, it will generate a return and that takes up your turnover and increases your gate - both vitally needed if we are to stay in SL.

Shares / Tickets etc will not just sell themselves, they need to be presented in a fashion which 'sells' them!

Sometimes I really hate being a Trin fan - even though I know I can't doing about it - or is it because.....

Back home and ever thing TRB said about the team is right. very poor today thats it.

Game was lost in the first 20 ins of the second half when we gave them a couple of fairly soft tries. In trying to chase the game our inability to create anything, particularly on the last tackle, near the opposition line was very evident.

I thought the forwards did ok today but there was no creative spark.

That's about right - reasonable amount of grunt, no flair at all. When did we last see a decent cut out pass from Wakey??? It's not rocket-science - which is just as well really!

If we have the smallest wage bill then we need to look at where some of the other clubs generate income, this is due to the fact that there are other clubs that get smaller gates than we do yet still seem to attract players that do a better job for them. Quins are one.

TRB is spot on - I posted similar after the Wigan cup match.

We seem to lack;
* the passion and the team spirit we had at the start of the season,
* go forward (I don't think a forward has bust the defensive line once
in the last two games - it certainly didn't happen today).
* ideas - we can be in the opponents 22m for hours and more often than
not we'll come away empty handed,
* any kind of game plan other than up your jumper, one man runs for
five tackles (if we hold the ball that long) and a crap kick
* tactical nous - agree with TRB about the two pointer in front of the
sticks, kicking game is poor and why didn't we have a single 40/20
attempt?

Another worrying aspect of our play is that we seem to fold in the second half. I've just looked at our 13 league results and only in 4 of them did we outscore the other team in the second half (Hull, Cas, Catalans and Wire). We even managed to be beaten in the second half by Bradford and Wigan when we won!! Is it because we're unfit? JK's half time talk? Can't be d?
Sandal Cat talks about the quality of our players and the need to raise more money to buy better but the players we've got [ucan[/u play well - they did, mostly, in the first half today. I don't know the reasons but we need our coach to earn his money and start to get some consistency in to the performances (and I don't mean that we lose every week!!)

Sorry happy with my current job





This thread reminds me of several on the Wigan bord over the last 3 or 4 years.

Highlight of the day today was Richard Moore's try apart from that not a lot jumps out. We didn't turn up for the second half until 20 minutes had gone.

who are you and what have you done with TRB?

The try that was about 3 meters forward?