Need a loose forward as well.

Think we are getting carried away a bit. We could do with a dozen extra players who couldn't. However there has to be some utility especially in the forwards. We have a number of players (assuming they stay) who can play both LF & SR. Morrison, Howarth, Anekin...even Lauititi. If we keep them I can't see the justification in another LF if we don't then OK. However compromises will have to be made, very few clubs can afford cover in every position - for me LF and SR is one of them.

I honestly don't think all our demands can be met player wise, but we will be a lot better off than this coming season I suspect than last. And with few injuries we should do ok, with a bit of luck then more than ok.

Steve Southern plays LF in NRL, is that not good enough for SL?
Has the world turned upside down

Forgot about him, yep more than adequate.

I'm going by the assumption (dangerous i know) that if Morrison & Howarth were going to be offered a deal they would have been by now and they'll be departing. I'd prefer them both to stay but it seems like they'll need replacing with someone.

Howarth's on a two year deal

Talk on the Hull forum of our youth coach Andy Last following Agar to Wakey... I thought you guys had a strong youth department?

We do, doesn't mean we have every position covered - nobody does.

We will always look at other teams in the same way others do at us for both young and old players - Huddersfield survive off our youth set up.

We do have one of the best, Tony drury will remain head of youth the way they are playing.

Maybe last wants a shot at assistant coach? Who knows.

Played the majority of his career in the 2nd row i think. But if hes coming here to play LF then we'll need cover in the 2nd row instead. Maybe thats where the Aspinwall rumour comes from.

True, didn't think of that. I wouldn't be unhappy to see him leave anyway, our youth development certainly needs a shake-up.

Not sure he is. He signed one year deal along with veivers iirc.

Howarth?? Only article I could find is that stating we signed howarth and viewers for 2011 but that's it.

Don't think he is signed up.

It was his first year in SL and I thought he went ok.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 092056.stm "Wakefield Trinity Wildcats have signed Wigan Warriors academy pair Josh Veivers and Stuart Howarth for the 2011 Super League season."

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 092056.stm "Wakefield Trinity Wildcats have signed Wigan Warriors academy pair Josh Veivers and Stuart Howarth for the 2011 Super League season."

Howarth is here next season I am almost certain.

Sorry to come on and bore you all again,but yes,the players do have a responsibilty to perform,some havn`t,but at the end of the day its the coaches tactics which have to be followed,a thing that has been sadly lacking.Look,I have said earlier I wish Agar well,but can anybody explain why when the rumours started he was to be Wakey`s coach,most on here didn`t want to know him.Now all of a sudden he is a Saviour?

I don't recall anyone describing him as a saviour; regardless what we think of him though, he's now our HC, so we have to get behind him and hope he proves a lot of people wrong.

Would you advocate a hate campaign against him, akin to the one that your lot have been engaged in, before a ball is thrown?

He is not a saviour but I think the majority are willing to give him a chance here. There are alot worse head coaches out there.

Hull was his first HC job, he has got hull to playoffs last 2 seasons but has not met the fans expectations.

I am hoping he has learned from his experience and a different environment with less pressure to get into top 4 may do him good.

There is a risk involved but he was one of the best out their of our target coaches who would come after a disastorous year.

I will judge him on SL 2012 and we will go from
Their. He has a better quality squad to choose from
Than Kear already plus the funds for 3 more players.

So an improvement on last year is required.

O.k. maybe saviour was a bit strong,and no I would not advocate a hate campaign against him.He has always come across as a nice bloke,if not a bit dull in his communicating.Its not him as a person I dislike,it is his idea of coaching which has left a lot of Hull fans frustrated.He may have turned a corner and learnt things from his time here.I hope he has.

You are right ,Agar was up against it from day 1 with some fans,but as I pointed out elsewhere, most were prepared to give him a chance.You have to forgive us for not being disappointed he is going.In our defence ,have you never had a coach you have been glad to see go?

Since you're now rid of him then, may I respectfully request then that you move on and stop banging on about it?

Meanhwile, keep your fingers tightly crossed that Mr Gentle turns out to be the saviour that he's been painted as; it would be terrible if, after all this expectation, it turns out to be a cosy little triumverate of bezzy mates at Hull FC, all with the same agent, taking yet more millions out of your club whilst achieving very little.

True,but we are used to failure just lately.I am sorry if posting on a forum is "banging on" but as this was a thread connected to Hull I thought I would have a go.Never mind,I won`t lose sleep over it.

You can do what you like, but you have made the same point quite a few times; after a while, it just comes across as gloating and that gets peoples backs up.

If it has come across as gloating,it is a mistaken impression.I have no axe to grind with Wakey or its fans.I was just trying to defend us Hull fans from looking like a bunch out with the pitchforks and torches on a hate campaign.
Anyhow,lets not get heated about it eh?,a new season ahead,new beginnings.

New seanson, new beginnings and here's to wakefield fininshing in top 8 at least. Being realistic that is where we should be finishing with our signings.