I've forgotten now.
What is the bad bit of the global reset that they discussed?

Quote ="Miro"Thank you so much. Hot on the heels of your pal wrencat finaly admiting the corruption that abounds arround this "covid" [u=#FF0000you now admit that they don't know if these "covid" victims were in fact covid victims[/u. Just what we have been arguing all along. Yet for months we have been inundated with death figures from covid-19. [u=#0000FFHere is another propaganda headline from the BBC just today.[/u [size=150Covid: How the UK reached 50,000 virus deaths The deaths have come in waves The majority of the deaths came in the spring as the virus took the UK by surprise. [/size https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54908177 By suprise? [u=#0000FFMore BBC bullcrap[/u and dare I say it? Fake news ? And what's this? =#800000To add to your 'what about all the people who recover from Covid-19 and then get hit by a bus within 28 days?' nonsense, [u=#00BF00I never stated that?[/u Where did you get that from? You lot don't need zoom, just gorge yourself on main stream media propaganda and re gurgitate on here.'" =#FF0000I guess misinterpretation & misrepresentation are the main talents of conspiracy artists. That's clearly not what I said and you know it. =#0000FFDo you have any evidence that the report from the BBC is untrue in any way? or does it just go against what you want to be true? =#00BF00My coffee break (or even my life) is not long enough to trawl through your missives on here, but I'm pretty sure you said or implied that deaths from/with covid are exagerated by people who die of other things after recovering. Similarly with Pop Tart, could you list all the goals of the 'great reset' and then point out which ones you think are bad? I'll get you started: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset I mean, all that sustainable development and reducing inequality has got to be a bad thing, right? How likely do you think that all the nations on the earth will enthusiastically accept the findings of the WEF in January? Particularly those who have been hit most harshly economically.

Quote ="Miro"Thank you so much. Hot on the heels of your pal wrencat finaly admiting the corruption that abounds arround this "covid" [u=#FF0000you now admit that they don't know if these "covid" victims were in fact covid victims[/u. Just what we have been arguing all along. Yet for months we have been inundated with death figures from covid-19. [u=#0000FFHere is another propaganda headline from the BBC just today.[/u [size=150Covid: How the UK reached 50,000 virus deaths The deaths have come in waves The majority of the deaths came in the spring as the virus took the UK by surprise. [/size https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54908177 By suprise? [u=#0000FFMore BBC bullcrap[/u and dare I say it? Fake news ? And what's this? =#800000To add to your 'what about all the people who recover from Covid-19 and then get hit by a bus within 28 days?' nonsense, [u=#00BF00I never stated that?[/u Where did you get that from? You lot don't need zoom, just gorge yourself on main stream media propaganda and re gurgitate on here.'" =#FF0000I guess misinterpretation & misrepresentation are the main talents of conspiracy artists. That's clearly not what I said and you know it. =#0000FFDo you have any evidence that the report from the BBC is untrue in any way? or does it just go against what you want to be true? =#00BF00My coffee break (or even my life) is not long enough to trawl through your missives on here, but I'm pretty sure you said or implied that deaths from/with covid are exagerated by people who die of other things after recovering. Similarly with Pop Tart, could you list all the goals of the 'great reset' and then point out which ones you think are bad? I'll get you started: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset I mean, all that sustainable development and reducing inequality has got to be a bad thing, right? How likely do you think that all the nations on the earth will enthusiastically accept the findings of the WEF in January? Particularly those who have been hit most harshly economically.

So coco, this what you say.
=#800000My coffee break (or even my life) is not long enough to trawl through your missives on here, but I'm pretty sure you said or implied that deaths from/with covid are exagerated by people who die of other things after recovering

Well if you cannot be bothered coco then do not mis quote me thus:
=#800000'what about all the people who recover from Covid-19 and then get hit by a bus within 28 days?'

And to think you also stated this:
=#800000"I guess misinterpretation & misrepresentation are the main talents of conspiracy artists.

covid

That they started it on purpose?

Quote ="coco the fullback"=#FF0000I guess misinterpretation & misrepresentation are the main talents of conspiracy artists. That's clearly not what I said and you know it. =#0000FFDo you have any evidence that the report from the BBC is untrue in any way? or does it just go against what you want to be true? =#00BF00My coffee break (or even my life) is not long enough to trawl through your missives on here, but I'm pretty sure you said or implied that deaths from/with covid are exagerated by people who die of other things after recovering. Similarly with Pop Tart, could you list all the goals of the 'great reset' and then point out which ones you think are bad? I'll get you started: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset I mean, all that sustainable development and reducing inequality has got to be a bad thing, right? How likely do you think that all the nations on the earth will enthusiastically accept the findings of the WEF in January? Particularly those who have been hit most harshly economically.'" So, you stated this: By the way, a direct quote not implied. =#800000“Because cause of death is usually complicated. People actually only die of one thing and that's a lack of oxygen to the brain. The reasons for this lack of oxygen are varied and often complex. It can also be a combination of factors where even if just one wasn't present, they may have survived. Cause of death is more often than not a matter of professional judgement for the doctors.” Are these some of the same doctors who took big pharmas bribe? So this BBC headline and all those claims that there are 50,000 deaths from “covid” are most likely false, according to coco. BBC......”How the UK reached 50,000 virus deaths.” And then you ask this: =#800000 “Do you have any evidence that the report from the BBC is untrue in any way? or does it just go against what you want to be true? “ Well, for the time being, I'll rely upon your statement (above). =#800000"How likely do you think that all the nations on the earth will enthusiastically accept the findings of the WEF in January?" Highly unlikely

Quote ="coco the fullback"=#FF0000I guess misinterpretation & misrepresentation are the main talents of conspiracy artists. That's clearly not what I said and you know it. =#0000FFDo you have any evidence that the report from the BBC is untrue in any way? or does it just go against what you want to be true? =#00BF00My coffee break (or even my life) is not long enough to trawl through your missives on here, but I'm pretty sure you said or implied that deaths from/with covid are exagerated by people who die of other things after recovering. Similarly with Pop Tart, could you list all the goals of the 'great reset' and then point out which ones you think are bad? I'll get you started: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset I mean, all that sustainable development and reducing inequality has got to be a bad thing, right? How likely do you think that all the nations on the earth will enthusiastically accept the findings of the WEF in January? Particularly those who have been hit most harshly economically.'" So, you stated this: By the way, a direct quote not implied. =#800000“Because cause of death is usually complicated. People actually only die of one thing and that's a lack of oxygen to the brain. The reasons for this lack of oxygen are varied and often complex. It can also be a combination of factors where even if just one wasn't present, they may have survived. Cause of death is more often than not a matter of professional judgement for the doctors.” Are these some of the same doctors who took big pharmas bribe? So this BBC headline and all those claims that there are 50,000 deaths from “covid” are most likely false, according to coco. BBC......”How the UK reached 50,000 virus deaths.” And then you ask this: =#800000 “Do you have any evidence that the report from the BBC is untrue in any way? or does it just go against what you want to be true? “ Well, for the time being, I'll rely upon your statement (above). =#800000"How likely do you think that all the nations on the earth will enthusiastically accept the findings of the WEF in January?" Highly unlikely

Funnily enough I have never implied that. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to put the record straight.

YOU are the one posting these remarks, not as a question but, to suggest that they are correct, therefore, YOU are regurgitating information which is largely seen as PROPAGANDA / FAKE NEWS, hell, you actually cant help yourself..

The people that you suggest above, thankfully dont share your rather unique take on life.

Btw, you must have seen the pictures of Pinderfields ICU department, which already has higher occupancy than it's peak in May and whilst not everyone has covid, it's pretty serious.

Was this more lies and fake news



As for your connection between the Anthrax incidents being a pre cursor to Covid OMG, you may need to water down whatever it is that you're drinking.
In the world of the fanatic, EVERYTHING is a sign that proves their point.
You seriously need to step back before your fully consumed in all things fake, mind you, there is plenty more out there .

Have you had a peek at David Ike's output yet ?

I never said it was a quote. It's called paraphrase hth
Are you disagreeing with the notion?


Anyway,about those bad parts of the "reset"...?

You haven't put it straight.
What are you saying the issue is then?

What are you (deliberately ) not understanding?
The covid deaths are not false.
Cause of death, especially in older people, usually has more than one contributory cause. A professional doctor would list covid-19 on the death certificate if it was a or the cause of death. Dying from kidney failure caused by thickening of blood caused by covid is still a death caused by covid.

Any evidence of these big pharma bribes? How many doctors are involved? What do they want them to do?

What negative measures are the WEF proposing?
If the world at large is going to ignore the proposals, what's your problem with them?

Let's just say Miro is right on all his points.

I'm a bit disappointed that someone who has seen these issues coming, from falsifying medical records, to government fraud, to BBC false reporting, to world governments trying to change the way we live our lives......... But hasn't said anything to anyone who can do something about it.

No letter to an MP
No petition started to investigate wrong doing
No contact with legitimate media to report on this.

Just a multitude of posts on a rugby league forum.

Seems to me, if that were happening, not blowing the whistle makes you in part complicit doesn't it?

He didn't say too much about it last year when there was the conference either.
Just why would anyone keep quiet about such a major issue ??

I

Who are these people who largely see what the WEF are proposing as “Propaganda / Fake news? Apart from yourself and a couple of others I see no one else regarding what the WEF proposing as “fake”
I have been on the WEF website and they do not say anywhere that they do not share my “unique take on life.”

No, I have not seen the pictures of Pinderfields ICU and without context, i.e. previous years, then your quote “which already has higher occupancy than it's peak in May “ is meaningless especially as they, as you say, are not all covidflu patients.

I presume there are no pictures of any other years to compare them with. How so? Why have they not taken photographs in all the other years, even those when there has been a above average influenza outbreak. Propaganda maybe? Context, that's all I ask for.

You are mistaken here. I have made no posts regarding the connection between anthrax and covid. Again you seem to feel, like others, that you can ascribe any quote you feel like to me yet never back it up or have the good grace to admit you got it wrong. Is there not enough genuine quotes out there to bash me over the head with?

Are you for real ?

They allowed cameras into the ICU wards at Pinderfields and spoke with numerous medical staff who, all sang the same song.and they told the camera that the wards were more full than they were in May and that over 50% were covid related.

My Mrs works for the NHS and they are pretty close to capacity.

In your earlier posts you have said that you like a personal statement, as opposed to news output but, when it no longer suits, you have changed your mind.

I owe you an apology regarding the Anthrax connection, having checked back, it was MatthewTrin that had a link to these 2 issues, apologies.

Getting back to covid and the increasingly full hospital wards, there is still a little way to go before we hit the peak time for the "usual" patients and things are already looking slightly desperate.

Should be an interesting Winter (deliberate understatement).

Because you constantly imply a connection but distance yourself from it when challenged. Either make your point clearly or don't make your point, but don't keep quoting other people and then say it wasn't your view and other posters are putting words in your mouth.

I have to say again, I'm running out of enthusiasm for this thread. When it was a discussion about covid and the current issues then it was worth a discussion but world politics and the inner workings of Miro's mind are not really for this forum.
That can be picked up in the Sin Bin forum.

You can take sides all you want but are you seriously suggesting anyone can ascribe words to me and I have no right of reply?
Are you seriously suggesting also that I am the only one to be subject to accusations. That I can be accused of a falshood and you, as a moderator, but hardly impartial, cannot take the trouble to check it out the truth?
I want to talk about covid but then I get accused of posting about anthrax and you ignore my complaint but refuse to censor those who make the accusation.
I get accused of being an anti vaccer, I am not and stated this many times but still no word from you the moderator.
I get accused of saying the virus was started deliberately yet I have never said that but still no intervention from you.
What kind of moderator are you?
This isn't the "inner workings of my mind" but me standing up for myself.
How you can moderate this thread while attacking me constantly and allowing others to do so is beyond the pale pop tart.
My guess is you are losing the argument and are looking for ways to close this thread down even though it has going on for 28,000 views.

PS Thank you wrencat for admitting the anthrax thread was not mine. Something you pop tart could easily have checked rather than a veiled threat to move this discussion.

All I asked for was context. That does not need you to ask "am I for real" Without context any figures for anything have no relevance in a discussion.
If for instance the wards were overflowing in previous years or maybe empty in previous years then that puts your "personal statement" into context. That's all I asked for.

Cheers for the correction and apology . Probably the only one I have ever had.

Amazing I have to answer this.You have been arguing with me all this time yet you do not know where I stand on this issue?

Go on then, just for clarity, perhaps you could answer him ?

Here we are, more fake argument from the so called "moderator" of this forum.
He has no idea whether or not I have spoken to my MP or any MP.
No idea as to whether I have started a petition let alone taken part in one.
No idea whether I have made "legitimate" contact with the media.

Really disappointed in this guy, yup, really disappointed.

Maybe I will if he asks again but whether he deserves an answer is something else.

As for you, I asked for context, you have not provided any yet.

You ask.
=#BF0000What are you (deliberately ) not understanding?
The covid deaths are not false.
Cause of death, especially in older people, usually has more than one contributory cause. A professional doctor would list covid-19 on the death certificate if it was a or the cause of death. Dying from kidney failure caused by thickening of blood caused by covid is still a death caused by covid.

By  Malcolm Kendrick, doctor and author who works as a GP in the National Health Service in England.
As an NHS doctor, I’ve seen people die and be listed as a victim of coronavirus without ever being tested for it. But unless we have accurate data, we won’t know which has killed more: the disease or the lockdown?

I suppose most people would be somewhat surprised to know that the cause of death, as written on death certificates, is often little more than an educated guess. Most people die when they are old, often over eighty. There is very rarely going to be a post-mortem carried out, which means that, as a doctor, you have a think about the patient’s symptoms in the last two weeks of life or so. You go back over the notes to look for existing medical conditions.

Previous stroke, diabetes, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, angina, dementia and suchlike. Then you talk to the relatives and carers and try to find out what they saw. Did they struggle for breath, were they gradually going downhill, not eating or drinking?

If I saw them in the last two weeks of life, what do I think was the most likely cause of death? There are, of course, other factors. Did they fall, did they break a leg and have an operation – in which case a post-mortem would more likely be carried out to find out if the operation was a cause.

Mostly, however, out in the community, death certification is certainly not an exact science. Never was, never will be.
Then, along comes Covid-19, and many of the rules – such as they were – went straight out the window

=#800000Any evidence of these big pharma bribes? How many doctors are involved? What do they want them to do?

Why do I need evidence, I asked a question. A evan a retorical question does not require evidence.
However, this is the reason for my perfectly legitimate question.

Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer agreed to pay $2.3 billion to resolve charges of illegal and fraudulent promotion of its products:
Pfizer “intended to circumvent specific FDA indications concerning their drugs by using its sales force to aggressively promote off-label uses,” Perkins said. “We have interviewed numerous physicians, sales representatives, and managers who have corroborated these assertions.”
Indeed, it was company employees who blew the whistle about off-label marketing—=#800000and kickbacks to physicians, who were paid to prescribe certain drugs.

I have no reason to believe this is still not an ongoing problem inside the medical profession, hence the question.

=#800000What negative measures are the WEF proposing?
If the world at large is going to ignore the proposals, what's your problem with them?

Because of the fallout as they attempt implementation. Rather like the USA promising to re-build Iraq, Afghanistan etc.. Look how that turned out.

Yet when I asked, you wouldn't answer, and still don't.
I think you've had enough air time but you've wasted that opportunity to try and score points with those trying to discuss your opinions.

If you want to raise another thread to discuss something specific you are welcome to do so. But if it's just the same stuff as this thread I think we've exhausted it.