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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Somehow I can’t imagine Tony Smith being understudy to someone who he was head coach over, when Willie was his assistant coach. Stranger things have happened.'"
I think we can post this along with those telling us that Wally Lewis was coming back to play for us.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"A little uncalled for from a poster who often likes to visit other clubs forums to leave a deposit plus I thought his daughter was a bigger fan then her dad.'"
Always thought you were the same poster tbh.
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| Quote ="vastman"Always thought you were the same poster tbh.'"
No, but I don’t begrudge them having a wealthy backer and I guess a successful business man, it is actually a good reflection on the game.
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| Smith had already said that he was leaving KR at the end of the season. So, it's fair to assume that he has something lined up.
Could he really make a difference short term ?
He is an excellent proven SL coach but, when he's moved, it has generally taken time for him to change things.
Equally, you could say that with a bigger spend a KR, the world hasn't exactly been set alight by their results.
Can you imagine how it would be on here if we had been well beaten in Toulouse, our game was certainly closer than theirs.
Lets see how we go with something close to a first 17 on the field, especially in the centres.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Smith had already said that he was leaving KR at the end of the season. So, it's fair to assume that he has something lined up.
Could he really make a difference short term ?
He is an excellent proven SL coach but, when he's moved, it has generally taken time for him to change things.
Equally, you could say that with a bigger spend a KR, the world hasn't exactly been set alight by their results.
Can you imagine how it would be on here if we had been well beaten in Toulouse, our game was certainly closer than theirs.
[uLets see how we go with something close to a first 17 on the field, especially in the centres[/u.'"
Trouble is, that seems a long way in the future.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No, but I don’t begrudge them having a wealthy backer and I guess a successful business man, it is actually a good reflection on the game.'"
Strange because you begrudge the club you claim to support almost anything. Maybe Hudds is more the club for you?
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| Quote ="vastman"Strange because you begrudge the club you claim to support almost anything. Maybe Hudds is more the club for you?'"
I wish you could make your mind up first it was Castleford and now it is Huddersfield. I wish Wakefield had a wealthy backer but clearly we do not nor have we been able to find one.
I think the fact that business people are willing to invest large sums of money into RL is good for the game, you just appear to want them to die for some macabre reason only best known to you, maybe jealousy.
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| Why on earth would he come to us. First of all he has probably heard his brothers side of events and his experience at Wakey.
Secondly he would look at our squad, hear are board of ditectors pleading poverty and then ask himself is he really that desperate.
If he stsys in UK , i would think Leeds is the best guess
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| Would his brother having anything to sway either way for Tony to join us in any capacity?
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"A little uncalled for from a poster who often likes to visit other clubs forums to leave a deposit plus I thought his daughter was a bigger fan then her dad.'"
Grandad & yes she is!
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| Would have him here any day. If he brought their kid with him, all the better. Sorry to say that I just don't think Willie is quite up to it.
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| I would love to see Trinity get a quality experience coach like Smith or McDermott
But why would either look at Trinity?
Poor squad no money poor stadium even with a new stand
It breaks my heart to see this club in the state that it is in.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"I would love to see Trinity get a quality experience coach like Smith or McDermott
But why would either look at Trinity?
Poor squad no money poor stadium even with a new stand
It breaks my heart to see this club in the state that it is in.'"
I get your point but one is at Fev and one is out of work so not sure our poor income is as big an issue.
Still happy for Willie to continue though.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I get your point but one is at Fev and one is out of work so not sure our poor income is as big an issue.
Still happy for Willie to continue though.'"
Wouldn't touch the fev one anyway Willie does deserve at least two seasons but at least give time a chance with some decent players instead of dead wood
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| Just been watching an interview with Craig Harrison regarding new coaches coming in etc. Both Leeds and Warrington are ripping through their teams to get cap room for new players the coach wants, getting rid of players the coach sees won’t play regularly. Willie doesn’t have this luxury unfortunately, it is still Chester’s team, as Warringtons is still Prices team and Leeds is still Agars team. Willie needs a decent season to show us what he can do, if we survive this year, then with the likes of Batchelor, Miller etc more than likely going then it’ll give him the space to mould a team for himself.
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| Though I don't blame Poching for the recent debacles, I'd take Tony Smith in a heartbeat.
I'll be honest, I didn't think he was the right man we needed at the current time.
Sadly, with how things went with his older brother, I don't think he'd come here.
I would think he's not a yes man, unlike others, and although i think a change in culture is what is really required, to kick some people at the club into shape, he'd clash with certain people.
The only way it would work with personalities like TS, is for certain people at the club to listen to what is needed to turn things around.
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| We should have had a change of coach a fair few seasons ago ,Willie or not , the fact is we are down on personnel, a huge chunk of our salary cap has been sat out for most of the season and with no signs of coming back to shore up the defences or the attack . Brought in some bargain basement players on long contracts ,who by and large certainly haven’t cut the mustard, why they couldn’t have been on rolling contracts is beyond me . We’ve tried the hard nosed coaching regime and that went down like a lead balloon, I’m 100% of the opinion that we’ve got to give Willie some time to mould this team into something like his squad ,which means outgoings ,loan outs/ins and incomings, the old saying you can’t make a silk purse out of a …….. is so relevant to our squad .Bash Poching all you want and he’ll probably carry the can for the performances, but the fault lies squarely at the previous coaches signings ,the players individual performances and attitudes and lastly the quality we have sat on the sidelines long term .
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| Well with 2 years under his belt he will still be left with at least 4 players who are below standard and brining in replacements almost impossible.
The Recruitment's been shocking and unfortunately for WP he's unable to get out of it.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Why on earth would he come to us. First of all he has probably heard his brothers side of events and his experience at Wakey.
Secondly he would look at our squad, hear are board of ditectors pleading poverty and then ask himself is he really that desperate.
If he stsys in UK , i would think Leeds is the best guess'"
He is going to Newcastle.
Dennis Betts will be taking over at Bradford.
I think we need to see what happens this weekend before deciding on what happens with our coaching position.
If we lose we absolutely must change something, either by bringing in a temporary consultant to support the current set up or replace WP.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"We should have had a change of coach a fair few seasons ago ,Willie or not , the fact is we are down on personnel, a huge chunk of our salary cap has been sat out for most of the season and with no signs of coming back to shore up the defences or the attack . Brought in some bargain basement players on long contracts ,who by and large certainly haven’t cut the mustard, why they couldn’t have been on rolling contracts is beyond me . We’ve tried the hard nosed coaching regime and that went down like a lead balloon, I’m 100% of the opinion that we’ve got to give Willie some time to mould this team into something like his squad ,which means outgoings ,loan outs/ins and incomings, the old saying you can’t make a silk purse out of a …….. is so relevant to our squad .Bash Poching all you want and he’ll probably carry the can for the performances, but the fault lies squarely at the previous coaches signings ,the players individual performances and attitudes and lastly the quality we have sat on the sidelines long term .'"
Sums it up perfectly for me.
Bill I don't expect to come back from his injuries and have more or less written him off but losing Lyne and Tom (that was some niggle in training?) has been a huge blow.
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| Quote ="jonh"He is going to Newcastle.
Dennis Betts will be taking over at Bradford.
I think we need to see what happens this weekend before deciding on what happens with our coaching position.
If we lose we absolutely must change something, either by bringing in a temporary consultant to support the current set up or replace WP.'"
Any coach who as got the Squad we have will struggle we are a championship team playing in S L
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| This club has made some real howlers on recruitment and one of the biggest was stubbornly hanging on to Chester for at least one season too long. Just about every sane supporter could see that at the time, but not the club. Right now we have serious problems but i wonder how the influencual people at the club are seeing it and what are their plans for the future. Like others have said ,it will take another season or two to undo the damage caused by Chester, so best coach in the world would struggle with our squad.
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| Quote ="vastman"You know what. Yes. Sorry Willie but this team is turning out to be Chester team in drag.'"
Whoever coaches, willie or bring someone in the squad is so imbalanced it needs an almighty job to put it right.
Johnstone
Lineham
Tupou
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12 centres and wingers add gaskell to this it's ridiculous. Some of the forwards have been great for us but most are around 32 and although they will play well a few times its consistency that's needed. One he'll of a big job. Got to hope someone as some forward thinking and knows what their doing. I think wel survive this year but after that if the recruitment continues this way, we're gone
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"This club has made some real howlers on recruitment and one of the biggest was stubbornly hanging on to Chester for at least one season too long. Just about every sane supporter could see that at the time, but not the club. Right now we have serious problems but i wonder how the influencual people at the club are seeing it and what are their plans for the future. Like others have said ,it will take another season or two to undo the damage caused by Chester, so best coach in the world would struggle with our squad.'"
The biggest one is not signing Batch up on a long term deal...our best player this season by far with his form on a par, if not better, than his brother at Saints...and he's younger...madness to let him go cos he's Waky thru n thru
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| Quote ="steve1g"=#FF0000The biggest one is not signing Batch up on a long term deal...our best player this season by far with his form on a par, if not better, than his brother at Saints...and he's younger...madness to let him go cos he's Waky thru n thru'"
Er, he wouldnt sign a longer deal - we were lucky to keep him for this season..........
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