No you can't - you can expect them to go up; that's what the Tories have told LA's to do, to offset the massive reductions in their health and social care budgets.

Aren't WMDC putting our council tax up by 2%?

Isn't that to pay for more police though?

Probably to pay for that palatial HQ they've built at the top of the Normanton bypass.

Every council in England are complaining about the reduction being placed on them but some of you believe Wakefield have bucked the trend and are in fact cash rich. I believe one D Cameron wrote to his council about the cuts which is strange considering he is responsible for them. This was backed up by his mother who signed a petition against the cuts.
Why should the council buy us the ground, we should be able to raise the funds necessary to secure both our future and have a source of income.
I ask the question what if we had left then I presume all restrictions are removed and BOI would have been able to sell the land for more and we would basically be nomads unless Newmarket is built.

Correct - I work with lots of them, and I can attest to the fact that many are, at present, technically bankrupt, so the type of cuts WMDC are talking about are happening everywhere.

Well done to anyone who voted Tory - this is what you voted for - 5 more years of ideological austerity.

Building or funding is nothing to with the council actually its a PFI building

No its not to pay for more Police it will in part put some money into policing but will not put anything near the budget cuts to the police from central govt in essence it will mean there will be slightly more police with the 2% levey but its not an increase it will still be less police officers in West Yorkshire.

Yeah. If only the UKIP had been a bit more electable I'm sure they would've provided the only realistic alternative.

True Bren.

Got my vote Wollo but to no avail

Looking the deficit the Countries running whats the alternative?

We wouldn't of got a referendum if it wasn't for UKIP or at least the threat of them taking votes from the Tories.

The Coalition and latterly the Tories, have totally failed to deliver on all of their deficit reduction targets; they now use austerity as a cloak to make ideological attacks on public services and the working classes, just as they've always done.

As for UKIP - I fail to see what a bunch of one-issue crackpots and racists would bring to the table.

Tbh all the parties are like my , have been for decades local and National. It was just that this time around the Tories for some was the best of a bad bunch.

Personally while ever Corbyn and McDonnell are the top boys in Labour you can count me out. The bloke's never got his head round the failure of his preferred policy mix in the 1970s, would be a disaster for the country if he ever got into power as well as a significant threat to investment and long-term business planning even in opposition.

Anyone who thinks nationalised industries, the government setting prices, triggering mass departures of businesses and the rich through punitive taxation and the familiar paraphernalia of a socialist command economy are "sensible" and are going to make anyone better-off, is crazy imo.

Anyway I personally hate talking politics at the best of time, even less on a Rugby forum.

Looks like Jeremy Hunt has succeeded in alienating a large number of employees which could lead to mass departures not of business but trained Doctors. Why don't people realise how busy the Tories are because they never appear to have anyone available to put their case when asked. All that work put in by Osbourne to improve his appearance is going to waste because if anyone is needed to defend one of his policies he generously sends one of his juniors now Alexander is no longer available.
I note you quote nationalisation as a failure therefore can you tell us how many of the utilities are still in the hands of UK business.

Well that would be re-nationalisation at this point, wouldn't it. Which was the point I was making, which is off the back of what Corbyn's said & his political beliefs and the crazy amount of money it would cost tax payers just to put a few back into State control. Anyway you tell me if you want to.

IMO as for Nationalisation, Ideally it would be preferable imo if there was a mix of state owned and Privatised companies, so in a way they can keep each other in check. The State owned companies would ensure lower prices & no price fixing and the privates would ensure the State doesn't forget about promoting innovation & generally running the business more efficiently than when a Monopoly.

Now follows a party political broadcast on behalf of the shifty party. For someone who hates talking politics you ain't doing bad.

There are already several state owned companies - the problem is that the States in question are France, Germany and Spain.

Yeah crazy Bren. In France you have a choice of EDF or EDF for electricity.Yet we abolish our own state owned utilities but allow other countries state owned such as EDF to move into our market.Having lived in France and Germany must say was satisfied with state owned services which demonstrated levels of efficiency surely we could match. Sorry forgot it's a rugby forum. Come on Trin on Sunday.

You can't call him that, you don't even know the guy.

Agree that Osbourne has failed in all his targets maybe thats a good thing for public sector workers considering the cuts would of been deeper to reduce the deficit. Unless of course we all pay more tax?

I was a UKIP voter, I want a Referendum to get out of the EU. Cameron was forced to offer a referendum after been leaking support to UKIP. Labour failed to recognise the support they was losing support to UKIP and failed to offer the voters the choice. They paid the price. I would say its probably the most productive vote I've ever made. I'm a a believer in democratic accountability so I dislike the set up of the EU with passion. I don't want to be ruled by a commission thats isn't answerable to the people. If that makes me a "crack pot and racist" so be it. I think we would after differ the definitions of your abuse.

Agree about the UKIP being a single issue party but that single issue hamstrings this country in so many different ways. The sooner that referendum comes the better.

Or maybe there are different ways to reduce the deficit - like creating jobs, building infrastructure and collecting tax properly from his friends in the mega-corps who appear to be immune to the tax regulations that apply to everyone else?

I understand your position on the EU; I fundamentally disagree with it, but I understand it; the jibe about crackpots and racists was aimed at UKIP's prime movers - not necessarily the people who voted for them, so apologies if that was misconstrued. The fact that some sensible, right-minded people felt compelled to vote for these loons is indeed a damning indictment of the political class we are now subjected to.

Politics makes enemies of the best of friends. But seen as though the lefties have hijacked a rugby forum I'll have my twopennorth. The last two Labour governments between them have ; left rubbish festering on our streets,left bodies unburried,had an inflation rate of over 25% ,had strike after strike etc etc up to 1979. Then the next bunch sold off the gold reserves at the bottom of the market,changed the face of the country forever with unfettered immigration,taxed pensions to punish those of us who saved,made huge swathes of the population dependent on benefits, nearly bankrupt the country,introduced the scums best friend the human rights act . I could go on but can't be assed. Cue the indignant hand wringers indignation