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| What I find frustrating is that most of the cash for next year as been spent by a Coach that is not here
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| Quote ="PopTart"Just think it through.
If Wigan are shopping for a stand off at the club who scraped 10th place and letting an international centre/fullback go in return, they are in more trouble than I thought.'"
Genuinely who are Wigan going to get? Unless they wait for someone to drop out of the NRL ie ash Taylor, but then he was on about £5/600K at the Titans. Who is there over here of any real quality at 6 Who’s available? Just because we finished 10th doesn’t mean Miller wouldn’t go well at Wigan amongst better players. I think it’s not just a worry for Wigan but SL in general , as the lack of quality coming through teams as well as quality coming over from the NRL is decreasing.
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| Quote ="alegend"If Gaskell is that good ,why did Wigan not go after him ,Hoping it is not true but if it is, it's a backwood step for Wakefield .OK we got a quota spot .but we would have to find a 6.'"
What's that got to do with it? If Miller were going as my conspiracy theory goes then we had to replace him with someone, hence Gaskell. Doesn't matter who we think is best, we needed a replacement, and Gaskell seems reasonable to me. I prefer Miller but IF he doesn't prefer us then we move on.
We wouldn't have to find another no6 that's the point we already have one, it's not difficult.
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| Quote ="Brightside"Perhaps we might find a 6 without the 80+ missed tackles and 30 errors in a 20 game season !'"
I dont think he will go but i agree its not like he is irreplaceable and been outstanding there other players ud rather not lose
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I love the close season. Full of optimism, anticipation, Boxing Day friendly and free weekends.'"
Does no harm so long as nobody takes it as gospel.
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| Quote ="Brightside"Perhaps we might find a 6 without the 80+ missed tackles and 30 errors in a 20 game season !'"
We all know Miller has his flaws, although a lot of his missed tackles are due to the fact that he attempts so many. He's been a great player for us but those stats are a perfect example of why he isn't IMHO a suitable signing for Wigan. I may be wrong but if he did go there I feel he'd struggle in front of an unforgiving crowd.
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| The obvious question is if he is that bad why would Wigan want to sign him. I guess they have a better impression of his rugby skills than some forum members.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The obvious question is if he is that bad why would Wigan want to sign him. I guess they have a better impression of his rugby skills than some forum members.'"
He's a great player imo, however IMO your argument is flawed. Seriously, are you suggesting every signing Wigan makes is a success? Well, it isn't. In the case of Miller, I'm not sure he has the mental strength for a big club.
I'll now turn it back on you, if Miller was that good why didn't Wigan sign him from Hull or the previous times his contract was up for us? Works both ways.
Anyway, I don't think he's going anywhere but what do I know.
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| Im probably wrong but I think Wigan had a first refusal on Williams when he left Canberra, so they would of been very confident of getting him back, but he obviously chose Wire, and ow Wigan will probably be thinking ‘who can we realistically get now’. Wigan signed Sammut a few years ago, could he lace Millers laces? I don’t think so personally. Interesting times ahead.
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| Wigan have an history of signings players from other clubs once they have proven their ability even if this is not immediate. We just need to look at N Wight, H Paul and Hastings the latter two Wigan could have signed before us and Salford, however they did not want to take the risk until they prove themselves.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The obvious question is if he is that bad why would Wigan want to sign him. I guess they have a better impression of his rugby skills than some forum members.'"
Because not even Wigan get it right all of the time .. remember Taulima Tautai ?
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| Quote ="vastman"We all know Miller has his flaws, although a lot of his missed tackles are due to the fact that he attempts so many. He's been a great player for us but those stats are a perfect example of why he isn't IMHO a suitable signing for Wigan. I may be wrong but if he did go there I feel he'd struggle in front of an unforgiving crowd.'"
I'd agree with most of that most notably the ' has been'. I feel over the last 2/3 seasons he has at best stagnated and probably gone backwards. What I dislike is his untouchable status which his performances have not justified.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Wigan have an history of signings players from other clubs once they have proven their ability even if this is not immediate. We just need to look at N Wight, H Paul and Hastings the latter two Wigan could have signed before us and Salford, however they did not want to take the risk until they prove themselves.'"
I really like Miller but
Nigel Wright was a superstar in the making. They signed him at 20. Played for England
Henry Paul was a superstar in the making. They signed him at 20. Played a lot for New Zealand and England RU
Jackson Hastings had proven himself a star in NRL and then in UK. Took a no chance team to Grand Final and won Man of Steel. They signed him at 24
Miller is 29 with a settled family, no representative honours even close. He has been more successful at the smaller club like ours than the bigger clubs he tried first.
So I'm not sure your long history of 3 players really makes that point.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Wigan have an history of signings players from other clubs once they have proven their ability even if this is not immediate. We just need to look at N Wight, H Paul and Hastings the latter two Wigan could have signed before us and Salford, however they did not want to take the risk until they prove themselves.'"
That is a poor argument, it makes no sense IMO. Paul was with us for half a season as a virtual unknown, whilst Wright played 27 games. Miller has played 174 times for Trinity, just how risk-averse were Wigan being! Salford got Hastings because they had space under the cap
The truth is Miller is a name Wigan fans have picked up on in a game that is short of creative players, hence the rumours.
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| Quote ="TimmySmith"You can but you won’t, because the likely hood you’ve read it on the Wigan forum or been told by a friend like the rest of us and don’t have a voice message.'"
Latest voicemail Swap deal off... Thanks to Willie
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| Quote ="OldSkoolProp"Latest voicemail Swap deal off... Thanks to Willie'"
Was never on was it
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| Mr Carter as said in the Manchester Evening Post, Miller is going no were he is out captain why would we get rid
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| Quote ="alegend"Mr Carter as said in the Manchester Evening Post, Miller is going no were he is out captain why would we get rid'"
Recent history has shown that Mr Carter's loyalty to certain individuals hasn't exactly done us any favours... And in any case it should be WPs decision.
I only hope that WP will select on form alone and might consider a new on-field leader.
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| Quote ="Brightside"Recent history has shown that Mr Carter's loyalty to certain individuals hasn't exactly done us any favours... And in any case it should be WPs decision.
I only hope that WP will select on form alone and might consider a new on-field leader.'"
Jeez your username gives entirely the wrong impression ……
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| Quote ="Brightside"Recent history has shown that Mr Carter's loyalty to certain individuals hasn't exactly done us any favours... And in any case it should be WPs decision.
I only hope that WP will select on form alone and might consider a new on-field leader.'"
Miller having the armband doesn't stop others being leaders.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Miller having the armband doesn't stop others being leaders.'"
Not at all but can cause friction, which of course is purely speculative and not saying is the case!
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| A great Season.
We are playing super league again next year - that is all we can hope for year on year
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| In my opinion the captains arm band is a honours position and always has been to some degree, same in football. In cricket the captain is hugely important being a genuine decision maker but in RL it’s more one of lead by example. In this I think Miller does well.
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| Quote ="TimmySmith"Not at all but can cause friction, which of course is purely speculative and not saying is the case!'"
Only on here. The team seem fine with it.
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