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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"A poster on the Cas board claimed that any PI is funded by the local government not by the central government, is this true to the best of your knowledge AI?
Bit tired to do the wider reading- it is half term after all.'"
Central government are the ones that direct the call in if they think it required and then hand it over to the The Planning Inspectorate to run the inquiry. I would think that the bulk of the cost comes out of the annual budgeted running costs for the The Planning Inspectorate, I suspect a LA will have to find rooms and a suitable venue to hold the inquiry (County Hall) and of course pay for the work it will do to support the upholding of their original minded to approve decision. Either way, they are not cheap!
Don't also forget that public inquiries take a lot of work, especially from the objectors point of view. I am not sure they have it in them to be honest, even with LCC doing their bit!
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| The reason Leeds councillors don't want the development to go ahead will most likely be because they have plans for their own industrial estate on the north side of J30 - they won't want Wakefield getting the prime customers first.
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| Quote ="kyassor"The reason Leeds councillors don't want the development to go ahead will most likely be because they have plans for their own industrial estate on the north side of J30 - they won't want Wakefield getting the prime customers first.'"
Got it in a nutshell! This is a council that have developed on green belt before, the environment didn't seem to bother them then!
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| I have just come across the 'appeals list' on the The Planning Inspectorate site and in the three months to end of the year they are only three called in applications to be heard at PI's!!!! They used to call in about 50 a year, so that suggests to me that the current government have probably only called in a small hand-full since they came to office.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I have just come across the 'appeals list' on the The Planning Inspectorate site and in the three months to end of the year they are only three called in applications to be heard at PI's!!!! They used to call in about 50 a year, so that suggests to me that the current government have probably only called in a small hand-full since they came to office.'"
Which makes it more likely IMO that the most controversial ones will be called-in. Whilst I don't agree with it, IMO the only way to settle this argument fairly is to hold an independent inquiry and Wakey fans can argue back but this has nothing to do with what's in the development (we all now the potential benefits - potential being the key word as it is by no means guaranteed), more to do with location and what it's situated on (greenbelt).
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Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I have just come across the 'appeals list' on the The Planning Inspectorate site and in the three months to end of the year they are only three called in applications to be heard at PI's!!!! They used to call in about 50 a year, so that suggests to me that the current government have probably only called in a small hand-full since they came to office.'"
Saw that but also found this: communities.gov.uk/planningandbu ... in-search/
Which shows 47 have been called-in/recovered. No idea if that's the ones that have been decided on this year.
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Saw that but also found this: communities.gov.uk/planningandbu ... in-search/
Which shows 47 have been called-in/recovered. No idea if that's the ones that have been decided on this year.
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| Quote ="Fully"'"
Here he is yet again picking out the negatives of the Newmarket development. Anyone comes on the Cas board and says something less than supportive of GH you call them a troll! Hypocrisy or what! Keep them straws in your clutches old boy!
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| Quote ="Fully"Which makes it more likely IMO that the most controversial ones will be called-in. Whilst I don't agree with it, IMO the only way to settle this argument fairly is to hold an independent inquiry and Wakey fans can argue back but this has nothing to do with what's in the development (we all now the potential benefits - potential being the key word as it is by no means guaranteed), more to do with location and what it's situated on (greenbelt).'"
What a load of crock, what's to settle the council unanimously voted for it. The councillors that have been democratically elected. Everything been evaluated it's called democracy it's how it works. Don't kid us by telling us you give a hoot about a bit of green belt on the edge of an old pit site. The real problem is that Glasshoughton has hit the rocks and the only chance Dickie has of getting some breathing space is if we fail. No surprise the latest delay will take Cas until after the SOS decision.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Here he is yet again picking out the negatives of the Newmarket development. Anyone comes on the Cas board and says something less than supportive of GH you call them a troll! Hypocrisy or what! Keep them straws in your clutches old boy!'"
Congratulations for clearly not reading my post. Is that going to be your statutory response to anybody who dares reply to any thread about this subject? That was my objective and impartial view and has no allegiance whatsoever to any of the parties involved (or Cas).
That judgement is based solely on the decision and also the above document. If you actually bothered to read my post I said: a) That I don't agree with it - i.e. it shouldn't be called in; b) We all know the potential benefits of this proposal; and c) The fact that it won't get called in for the development itself, more location and the fact it's on greenbelt.
Would you not agree with those three fundamental points? For instance, do you think if this development was on brownbelt land that anybody would give a flying cluck-a-duck? Get off your bloody high pedestal and open your eyes for a change!
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| Quote ="deeHell"What a load of crock, what's to settle the council unanimously voted for it. The councillors that have been democratically elected. Everything been evaluated it's called democracy it's how it works. Don't kid us by telling us you give a hoot about a bit of green belt on the edge of an old pit site. The real problem is that Glasshoughton has hit the rocks and the only chance Dickie has of getting some breathing space is if we fail. No surprise the latest delay will take Cas until after the SOS decision.'"
The Council did unanimously vote for it, you're right but doesn't stop it getting called in does it? If that was the case we would have a system in employment where every planning decision was made solely by the council on its own. And it isn't about me and my personal opinions on the environment or greenbelt - so congratulations for not reading the post again. And as for Cas, this has nothing to do with what I said and even if I did it's total rubbish.
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"Mate, i dont know what you are talking about with your childish "i claim" remarks, it is so boring..... don't you see how rediculous this whole project is? the stadium is a pathetically none subtle trojan horse being utilised by York Court to build this bunch of industrial buildings which will completely blight the whole area and for what? so that 2,500 die hard Wakefield Rugby league fans can go watch some guys run around on a pitch every sunday for 80 minutes.......Hardly a good reason to rip up the earth is it??
I need to claim a fiver for all you lot because you are all clearly bonkers!!!!'"
You really need to slow down on your menstral cycle before you fall of and hurt yourself. I love how you started saying we couldn't fill a stand and then we had 3000 supporters and now 2500. You will find that you are in the minority the figures tell you that, 1000 objections and 16000 in support. It's been awhile since I left school but I still sure that 16000 is the bigger number. Oh and one last thing it's spelt Ridiculous with an 'I' not an 'E'. If you don't believe me look in the book with all the words and no story to it, you might know the one it's called a dictionary.
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| Quote ="Fully"Which makes it more likely IMO that the most controversial ones will be called-in. Whilst I don't agree with it, IMO the only way to settle this argument fairly is to hold an independent inquiry and Wakey fans can argue back but this has nothing to do with what's in the development (we all now the potential benefits - potential being the key word as it is by no means guaranteed), more to do with location and what it's situated on (greenbelt).'"
The smiling assassin strikes again, however clumsily.
I noticed there was a lull in the posts on here from our CLO's*, until things went quiet on the GH front and we got our OPP.
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| Quote ="bren2k"The smiling assassin strikes again, however clumsily.
I noticed there was a lull in the posts on here from our CLO's*, until things went quiet on the GH front and we got our OPP.'"
As I said above, nothing to do with Cas at all in any way, shape or form. I was just making a fair and balanced judgement based on the information stated by Leeds CC and also the decision of Wakefield and also the development as a whole. If that upsets you, ah well, can't please everyone!.
Clearly you missed the bits of me being with Wakefield fans on it too.
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| Quote ="Fully"As I said above, nothing to do with Cas at all in any way, shape or form. I was just making a fair and balanced judgement based on the information stated by Leeds CC and also the decision of Wakefield and also the development as a whole. If that upsets you, ah well, get used to it.
Clearly you missed the bits of me being with Wakefield fans on it too.
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A fair and balanced judgement has already been made by the elected representatives who comprise the planning committee; it's got naff all to do with passive aggressive Cas fans or LCC.
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| Quote ="deeHell"What a load of crock, what's to settle the council unanimously voted for it. The councillors that have been democratically elected. Everything been evaluated it's called democracy it's how it works. Don't kid us by telling us you give a hoot about a bit of green belt on the edge of an old pit site. The real problem is that Glasshoughton has hit the rocks and the only chance Dickie has of getting some breathing space is if we fail. No surprise the latest delay will take Cas until after the SOS decision.'"
No mate, wrong, wrong and wrong again, you lot on here must all be on drugs or something, what Wakefield council decide does not matter a hoot, Leeds council old sway in this part of Yorkshire and will not let this happen. The only reason wakey council passed it was because none of them want blood on their hands and they know that Leeds council and the SOS will kick the whole thing into touch and do their dirty work for them, they can then all come out smelling of roses and don't have to worry about death threats from the trinity linch mobs!!!
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| Quote ="trinfan71"You really need to slow down on your menstral cycle before you fall of and hurt yourself. I love how you started saying we couldn't fill a stand and then we had 3000 supporters and now 2500. You will find that you are in the minority the figures tell you that, 1000 objections and 16000 in support. It's been awhile since I left school but I still sure that 16000 is the bigger number. Oh and one last thing it's spelt Ridiculous with an 'I' not an 'E'. If you don't believe me look in the book with all the words and no story to it, you might know the one it's called a dictionary.'"
it's true buddy, you have NO fans .... So why build 200 acres of buildings nobody wants except those fans and their extended families (the 16000) it hardly constitutes the majority of Wakefield citizens now does it!!
In fact the support and interest in the Wakefield trinity side is an embarrassment and if it was a dog......it would have been put down years ago!
Ridiculous!!!! Their, happy now.
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| Quote ="bren2k"A fair and balanced judgement has already been made by the elected representatives who comprise the planning committee; it's got naff all to do with passive aggressive Cas fans or LCC.'"
Leeds council are about to sink your pipedream people and I will be partying for days when this happens!!
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| Quote ="bren2k"The smiling assassin strikes again, however clumsily.
I noticed there was a lull in the posts on here from our CLO's*, until things went quiet on the GH front and we got our OPP.'"
but you have not got your OPP, stop dishing out incorrect information!!
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"Leeds council are about to sink your pipedream people and I will be partying for days when this happens!!'"
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"but you have not got your OPP, stop dishing out incorrect information!!'"
let the process run its course... and calm down!!!
learn to mould the future positively not be angry at the past...
a development WILL happen on this site, regardless of the Trinity involvement... there will inevitably be a merging of the urban sprawl between Wakefield and Leeds... the best that can be hoped is that this is done in a green and sympathetic way. Compared with some potential options this is a good plan, and offers much for the community.
I once almost bought a house on bottomboat rd... If i lived there now I would be campaigning for full community involvement in the development...
resistance really is futile, even if there is a delay, thats all it will be... a delay! and the only party that will suffer from that is the anchor tenant of the stadium...
A development will happen... and I hope it's this one!
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| Quote ="bren2k"A fair and balanced judgement has already been made by the elected representatives who comprise the planning committee; it's got naff all to do with passive aggressive Cas fans or LCC.'"
I agree, however, I can see their argument and why they do oppose it. It isn't right but they are entitled to do that on the issues they have raised.
As for your comment on Cas fans, I'll ignore that. Most of the Cas fans are wishing you well, myself included.
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"it's true buddy, you have NO fans .... So why build 200 acres of buildings nobody wants except those fans and their extended families (the 16000) it hardly constitutes the majority of Wakefield citizens now does it!!
In fact the support and interest in the Wakefield trinity side is an embarrassment and if it was a dog......it would have been put down years ago!
Ridiculous!!!! Their, happy now.'"
Who's happy now? Do you mean 'there' unless you mean specific people. This 'nobody' you speak of where were they last Friday? As I understand it two of the speakers against the project were no shows. The fact is people such as you are learning the hard way that 'because' is not a valid argument. You say nobody wants this development, clearly that's not the case if 16000 people do want it. In a country (England) with a population of 51.4 million I hardly think 1000 (many of which it appears live on Newmarket Lane in the same house) is hardly a majority. Even if you take it to a local level 1000 out 323,900 is still not majority you are so hung up on. The fact is this the site of an old colliery, we are not talking about part of the dales. You are clearly anti Wakefield trinity wildcats, that is so obvious when all you are whinging about is the stadium which going to built on Brown belt. I suggest you make an appointment with your doctor to have your puppet master's hand removed from your rectum and just go back to your miserable existence. Do you have a Christmas to spoil for some happy child somewhere.
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"Leeds council are about to sink your pipedream people and I will be partying for days when this happens!!'"
Stay off the E numbers Jonny!
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"No mate, wrong, wrong and wrong again, you lot on here must all be on drugs or something, what Wakefield council decide does not matter a hoot, Leeds council old sway in this part of Yorkshire and will not let this happen. The only reason wakey council passed it was because none of them want blood on their hands and they know that Leeds council and the SOS will kick the whole thing into touch and do their dirty work for them, they can then all come out smelling of roses and don't have to worry about death threats from the trinity linch mobs!!!'"
Outwood Tiger said a similar thing on the other cas forum. Similar worked up writing style and use of the phrase blood on their hands.
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| Quote ="Fully"Which makes it more likely IMO that the most controversial ones will be called-in. [uWhilst I don't agree with it, IMO the only way to settle this argument fairly is to hold an independent inquiry and Wakey fans can argue back [/ubut this has nothing to do with what's in the development (we all now the potential benefits - potential being the key word as it is by no means guaranteed), more to do with location and what it's situated on (greenbelt).'"
Fully old boy I do not get involved in this sort of stuff, I leave it to those what know what they're talking about, but I have just read seven pages of utter cr@P from some idiot called foulmouthed and people what should know better than to get involved with her. This bit above caught my eye from you, forgive me but have both sides not had the opportunity to debate their arguments and put forward their proposals and objections for the last two years', it was passed unanimously at a meeting last Friday, so why do Wakey fans and the supporters of the venture need to argue back?.
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