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| Quote ="supercat"Sorry haven't been on for a few days but turns out my post from Saturday morning (please see below). Is or is going to be mostly true. I think
This is what i heard last night
Danny Broughs Last game last night.
Going to Huddersfield for 15k a year more.
We are getting 100k + a player from Huddersfield who is in their first 17. (This could be griffin)
Apparently Danny is in debt and the chairman is paying this off as well.
If this is true i am happy for both club and Danny. As think both parties can now move on.'"
If you are going to be so accurate before the weekend again, could you make it the lottery numbers please.
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| Heard tonight talks are going on but the unmentioned player from Huddersfield doesn't want to move. Also Cooke deal not done due to arguing with KR over severance pay.
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| Quote ="supercat"Heard tonight talks are going on but the unmentioned player from Huddersfield doesn't want to move.'"
There’s no point swapping one player who doesn’t want to be here for another.
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| Quote ="The Joker®"Danny =#FF0000McGuire is he the most overrated =#FF0000Stand-Off in Super League?.'"
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"I wouldn't worry about it mate, cos of all those 'facts'..... that one is wrong !!!'"
It would not be a fact then would it
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| I wonder where the Catalan Dragons fit into this puzzle now?
It's been mentioned their Mgt are in England in talks with a 'want away' half back - what with Mogg leaving
Are they after Cooke or Brough or someone else?
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| Quote ="Wadski"I wonder where the Catalan Dragons fit into this puzzle now?
It's been mentioned their Mgt are in England in talks with a 'want away' half back - what with Mogg leaving
Are they after Cooke or Brough or someone else?'"
You are asking the wrong people here squire, you would be better employed asking the questions' on your own board, some on there seem to know all the answers' re Wakey business
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| Quote ="Wadski"I wonder where the Catalan Dragons fit into this puzzle now?
It's been mentioned their Mgt are in England in talks with a 'want away' half back - what with Mogg leaving
Are they after Cooke or Brough or someone else?'"
Can you really see either of them working out in France?? Cooke will miss the pub and Brough will miss the b##kies......!!!!!!
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Can you really see either of them working out in France?? Cooke will miss the pub and Brough will miss the b##kies......!!!!!!'"
Depends on the pennies being offered - imagine having to spend all summer in the south of France. The upside for Brough is that he won't have to buy a baseball cap with that forehead overhang.
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| Quote ="supercat"Heard tonight talks are going on but the unmentioned player from Huddersfield doesn't want to move. Also Cooke deal not done due to arguing with KR over severance pay.'"
Just curious how severance pay is an issue for a loan signing??
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| Quote ="supercat"This is what i heard last night
Danny Broughs Last game last night.
Going to Huddersfield for 15k a year more.
We are getting 100k + a player from Huddersfield who is in their first 17. (This could be griffin)
Apparently Danny is in debt and the chairman is paying this off as well.
If this is true i am happy for both club and Danny. As think both parties can now move on.'"
You're on the right lines.....
WIth broughs current financial issues, he is unable to get a mortgage, which leads me to believe that mr davy is to buy him a house and take the mortgage repayments out broughys wage. Huddersfield have offered him a 4.5 and a 4 yr deal depending when they can secure his services. They have also offered brough almost double what we have offered in wages.
The club says nobody is bigger than them, however sometimes in life you have a give a little more to get a lot more and doing so with brough i think we'd get that bit more.
we always let a good player go then spend the next couple of seasons rebuilding and reshaping things on the field around whoever we bring in - who, generally, tends to not be as a good a player as the one we have let go....
It appears to me that we havnt done enough to keep arguably the best half back in SL !!!!
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"You're on the right lines.....
WIth broughs current financial issues, he is unable to get a mortgage, which leads me to believe that mr davy is to buy him a house and take the mortgage repayments out broughys wage. Huddersfield have offered him a 4.5 and a 4 yr deal depending when they can secure his services. They have also offered brough almost double what we have offered in wages.
The club says nobody is bigger than them, however sometimes in life you have a give a little more to get a lot more and doing so with brough i think we'd get that bit more.
we always let a good player go then spend the next couple of seasons rebuilding and reshaping things on the field around whoever we bring in - who, generally, tends to not be as a good a player as the one we have let go....
It appears to me that we havnt done enough to keep arguably the best half back in SL !!!!'"
Whilst I agree he is a quality player, if Hudds are supposedly paying him double what we have offered and buying him a house (through Ken Davey) how can we be expected to compete. It is already noted we had offered him a contract to make him the highest player in the clubs history.
We have to use our limited resources wisely and cannot afford to tie too much up on one player - I also think that doing so would upset the team spirit that is one of the main reasons why we constantly exceed many peoples expectations.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Whilst I agree he is a quality player, if Hudds are supposedly paying him double what we have offered and buying him a house (through Ken Davey) how can we be expected to compete. It is already noted we had offered him a contract to make him the highest player in the clubs history.
We have to use our limited resources wisely and cannot afford to tie too much up on one player - I also think that doing so would upset the team spirit that is one of the main reasons why we constantly exceed many peoples expectations.'"
Sorry I also understand he has expressed his wish to leave for quite some time, so quite possibly nothing we could do would be good enough
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"It appears to me that we havnt done enough to keep arguably the best half back in SL !!!!'"
It appears to me we've done everything we possibly could to secure his services. We can't offer what we don't have, and I'm pretty sure that in offering him the deal we did, we hit the pain barrier and possibly beyond. I don't think you can point the finger of blame at the Wakefield BoD here. I'm sure they're perfectly well aware of the asset they have in Danny Brough, and have done everything they reasonably, and legally could to retain his services.
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| WTWC will not be held to ransom
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"You're on the right lines.....
It appears to me that we havnt done enough to keep arguably the best half back in SL !!!!'"
So by definition he should be an international but isn't so that makes that part of your arguement flawed. He was over looked in favour of two teenager scrum halves (Myler & Eastmond) for last season's 4 nations. I am sure that Burrow would be ahead of him also. So to say he is the best half back in super league is a bold statement but (as much as I wish you were right) not a correct one. The best kicking game yes.
I would like to give people another scenario to think about.
We pay Brough £xyz to keep him and maybe next season's budget doesn't allow for us to stay under the salary cap, so we have to release say 3 maybe 4 promising youngsters that would have been promoted to the first team squad. They then go on to bigger and better things with other clubs.
Earlier this week people were bigging up Gledhill (and rightly so), but I bet if you asked at Cas honestly why he was up for grabs and not at their club anymore somewhere in the grand scale of things money would come into it.
People are so quick to praise Danny Brough, on his day he is a very good player, but he is not a great player. One of our great players (who is no longer with us) once said to me "A good player takes the praise when he gets it right, but it great player also turns it around when it goes wrong aswell."
Just look at the League Table and the Super League fixture lists, we are named as Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, not Danny Brough and the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats.
Sometimes people buy into the hero worship stuff just a little too easily. When he first signed, it was I wouldn't pay him used washers and now people are for paying the equivalent of the national debt of mexico. I am with the club on this one you have to stand at some point.
As the saying goes: 'You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time.'
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| It's only one opinion that selects the England team
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| Quote ="Outwood Vic"It's only one opinion that selects the England team
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That is the only opinion that counts as far as international selection goes.
Whether that opinion is right or wrong is open to a different debate.
It doesn't disguise the fact that kids (who between them probably only just managed a season of 1st team action last year) got picked ahead of him.
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| Quote ="trinfan71"That is the only opinion that counts as far as international selection goes.
Whether that opinion is right or wrong is open to a different debate.
It doesn't disguise the fact that kids (who between them probably only just managed a season of 1st team action last year) got picked ahead of him.'"
Fairly sure that, having played for Scotland the year previously, he had to wait 2 years to be considered for selection? Or is this wrong?
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| Quote ="Captain Library"Fairly sure that, having played for Scotland the year previously, he had to wait 2 years to be considered for selection? Or is this wrong?'"
not sure on the time scale but some truth in having to wait, as for me i think once you have nailed your colors to the mast....
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"You're on the right lines.....
WIth broughs current financial issues, he is unable to get a mortgage, which leads me to believe that mr davy is to buy him a house and take the mortgage repayments out broughys wage. Huddersfield have offered him a 4.5 and a 4 yr deal depending when they can secure his services. They have also offered brough almost double what we have offered in wages.
The club says nobody is bigger than them, however sometimes in life you have a give a little more to get a lot more and doing so with brough i think we'd get that bit more.
we always let a good player go then spend the next couple of seasons rebuilding and reshaping things on the field around whoever we bring in - who, generally, tends to not be as a good a player as the one we have let go....
It appears to me that we havnt done enough to keep arguably the best half back in SL !!!!'"
This is better than reading the Beano, DB is a RL player "supposedly" signing for Huddersfield Giants not an international footballer signing for Man Ure. If you're going to spread rumours at least make them believable.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"How about, Huddersfield have made an illegal approach for D.B for next season.'"
Maybe we have/maybe we haven't, whatever I very much doubt anyone on here knows the true facts. If we illegally poached him then I'm sure your chairman will contact the relevant authorities and report it, or perhaps he'll confide with a few of the "in the know posters on here first" who knows ???
Still think the "double salary", "buying him a house" and all the other far fetched rumours posted on this site are way off the mark, Uncle Ken's a business man not a charity.
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| Quote ="ShelleyGiant" Still think the "double salary", "buying him a house" and all the other far fetched rumours posted on this site are way off the mark, Uncle Ken's a business man not a charity.
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=#8040FFWhich is why he's letting a small time team play in his big shiny stadium running at a loss to get a crowd, of course
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8040FFWhich is why he's letting a small time team play in his big shiny stadium running at a loss to get a crowd, of course
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