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| Some are never happier than they are moaning about this that or the other, life as a Trin fan has never been easy but constantly moaning just wears you down lighten up. Players come players go always have always will do.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"I only feel like slashing my wrists or gassing myself after the game, I'm okay Mon to Sat.'"
Why don't you get on with it & make sure you do it on Saturday so you won't have to bother about the match on Sunday.
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| It's an option but one I will not be taking up , but thanks for the suggestion.
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"Some are never happier than they are moaning about this that or the other, life as a Trin fan has never been easy but constantly moaning just wears you down lighten up. Players come players go always have always will do.'"
Indeed, what winds me up most is that many of that group don't post anything when things go well, maybe the odd "but we were playing a weakened side" but as soon as something goes wrong you can't keep them away from the keyboard.
They have the same right to post as the rest of us, I just don't see the point. It's just tiring.
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| There's not much to be positive about in all honesty. We're favourites for relegation, we have no coach for next year, few contracted players and worst of all no confirmed home ground. It's really not a healthy state to be in at all.
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| Chuff me Khlav Kalash.
Would you be offended if I suggested you cut and paste that one onto another thread #justsayin
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"There's not much to be positive about in all honesty. We're favourites for relegation, we have no coach for next year, few contracted players and worst of all no confirmed home ground. It's really not a healthy state to be in at all.'"
On the plus side, we are 12th in SL and we get to play in the all new "every minute matters" middle 8
Plus we get chance to turn over our bogey team on Sunday
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| Quote ="PopTart"Indeed, what winds me up most is that many of that group don't post anything when things go well, maybe the odd "but we were playing a weakened side" but as soon as something goes wrong you can't keep them away from the keyboard.
They have the same right to post as the rest of us, I just don't see the point. It's just tiring.'"
When was that then ?
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"You can't come on posting stuff like that!
You will be accused of wearing 'red, white & blue glasses'.
Got to be a 'realist' and pull everything the club is doing to pieces, so it makes you feel better.
I too despair at the negativity, BS has more knowledge about RL in the stuff he leaves in the toilet, than most of the doom mongers on here.'"
I'm all for positivity as long as it's not just actually for the sake of it?! I can't see where anyone who is being positive are coming up with reasons/facts to justify being positive?! Hard facts, negative though they are....we are having the worst season in the top flight for God knows how many years, if not the worst. We don't know where we will be playing next year with the ground situation. If by stating them that makes me a negative person, then not sure really, the only positive is we aren't actually relegated yet. Professional rugby players are supposedly doing something they love, and getting well paid for the privilege. I wish I got paid for doing something I loved and enjoyed, yet it seems to be a chore for most of them come matchday?! I don't actually think any of them are enjoying being out there playing the game they love? Their body language looks negative, not positive, so if they are down then I think supporters are entitled to be a bit 'off' with everything, when they pay their hard earned to watch negativity on the field?!!
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| Four negatives/negativity.
You need to go Wildmoggy - and never darken this thread no more.
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| Its hard to stay positive with the goings on at this club at the moment the one positive is they keep bringing other clubs cast offs in at least we have a bigger squad than at the start of the season.
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| The club is if not already dead very nearly dead.
When you're losing players to Cas to keep afloat it's obvious.
Anyone who can't see what's happening is deluded IMHO.
Losses are being cut and escape plans put in place.
If we are lucky we will be playing in the Championship next year - it will be short lived as our gypsy situation will see us disappear altogether within a few season - we are Oldham mark 2.
I honestly can't believe after the last two seasons any of you still have any belief in the club - what planet are you on!
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| Quote ="vastman"The club is if not already dead very nearly dead.
When you're losing players to Cas to keep afloat it's obvious.
Anyone who can't see what's happening is deluded IMHO.
Losses are being cut and escape plans put in place.
If we are lucky we will be playing in the Championship next year - it will be short lived as our gypsy situation will see us disappear altogether within a few season - we are Oldham mark 2.
I honestly can't believe after the last two seasons any of you still have any belief in the club - what planet are you on!'"
Thank you I thought I was alone in spotting the obvious. I expect you will be use to the usual drones trying to bully you off the site.
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| Quote ="vastman"The club is if not already dead very nearly dead.
When you're losing players to Cas to keep afloat it's obvious.
Anyone who can't see what's happening is deluded IMHO.
Losses are being cut and escape plans put in place.
If we are lucky we will be playing in the Championship next year - it will be short lived as our gypsy situation will see us disappear altogether within a few season - we are Oldham mark 2.
I honestly can't believe after the last two seasons any of you still have any belief in the club - what planet are you on!'"
I have to say I agree with Vasty. I'm really struggling to see any positives at the moment (barring Brian Smith currently
being here) It's all very painful at the moment.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I have to say I agree with Vasty. I'm really struggling to see any positives at the moment (barring Brian Smith currently
being here) It's all very painful at the moment.'"
I also agree with my old mate Vastman on this one.
You say we have Brian Smith but as far as we know he is also fixed up somewhere else just like all our players
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| Quote ="vastman"The club is if not already dead very nearly dead.
When you're losing players to Cas to keep afloat it's obvious.
Anyone who can't see what's happening is deluded IMHO.
Losses are being cut and escape plans put in place.
If we are lucky we will be playing in the Championship next year - it will be short lived as our gypsy situation will see us disappear altogether within a few season - we are Oldham mark 2.
I honestly can't believe after the last two seasons any of you still have any belief in the club - what planet are you on!'"
Hate to say it but it really does seem that way right now.
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| Will make interesting reading when season tickets for next year go on sale even if and a big IF the club are still in SL and if the club are who would want to come to a club who don't have a place to call home and will look like they are going from one bad time to another apart from players who are not wanted elsewhere.
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| Quote ="les-goose"Will make interesting reading when season tickets for next year go on sale even if and a big IF the club are still in SL and if the club are who would want to come to a club who don't have a place to call home and will look like they are going from one bad time to another apart from players who are not wanted elsewhere.'"
It didn't matter that we were playing at Belle Vue this season, people still wouldn't buy a season ticket because they 'didn't know what sort of squad we would have'.
It's just a shame MC wasn't in charge 4 years ago, when we had the cushion of a 3 year franchise!
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| It will be a lot worse this time round as I said though what player will want to come here apart from those that cant get a gig elsewhere the one hope is that these unknows like Sio etc bust a gut to prove they are capable that's probs what we need if BS decides to stay on with the club.
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| The question right now is, can we stay in SL with the playing roster that we have.
With the exception of Locke we seem to be trading down with the players that we are "swapping" which is either cashing in/cutting cost, or preparing a Championship side.
As others have said, Brian Smith apart, it's all getting very depressing.
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| If there's one thing watching Wakey has taught me these last 15 years, it's it ain't over till it's over.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"If there's one thing watching Wakey has taught me these last 15 years, it's it ain't over till it's over.'"
In previous seasons I would agree, but you only have to look at the points against column to realise this lot aren't made of the same stuff as previous squads.
As I said earlier, there is nothing positive to grasp onto right now. The perilously uncertain state the club is in is no way to build a club. The pitiful support will be even smaller if the club some how manage to survive into next season.
No coach, no players, no fans, no ground. Chin up eh?
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| Well, although I understand a lot of what Vasty says, this bit "I honestly can't believe after the last two seasons any of you still have any belief in the club - what planet are you on!" is unnecessary.
The problem is from an on field point of view, when you judge the season on what has gone on so far, it's the worst in a long history at Belle Vue. The point for me though is that, the season isn't how we'll be judged. We don't have to beat Warrington or Cas. We have to beat the 7 teams in the middle 8. That is not the same.
I'm not daft enough to think it will be easy but I have seen enough since Smith has arrived to think we have a decent chance.
The ground issue is ongoing and I'm not in control of that. The team for next year will sort itself out same as every other year. We don't have to have those contracts yet. We have some, and not bad one's either, and when we know what league we will be in we can do the rest.
I share the sadness about the club but I don't share the view that everything is dead and I don't share the ridicule of those that want to try and stay positive. I don't "trust" the club any more than I trust Marks and Spencer to keep making the socks I like. I just pay my money to watch rugby in Wakefield and will do so regardless of where they play, even if that puts me on the proverbial 'other planet'
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| Quote ="PopTart" I share the sadness about the club but I don't share the view that everything is dead and I don't share the ridicule of those that want to try and stay positive.'"
Yet there are a lot ridiculing those who are fed up and dare to air that view on here.
It works both ways ...
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| I don't share that view either.
It's really all just "tone of voice" when writing. It's hard to deliver and judge what is intended so we'll just have to ride it out and see where we end up.
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