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| Would we moan if young Sutcliffe came, no we would not, Vasty is right we need all the help we can get
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| If you got sutty he would be your best player.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"If you got sutty he would be your best player.'"
There's alway one troll who has to go to far.
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| Quote ="vastman"I really don't get the point. There are no current youngsters at the club who are realistically good enough to lose out to Briscoe - I say this assuming he is a back and not a S/R as stated on the Rhino's site.
This point is becoming very laboured IMHO- if Anakin, Trout, Wildie and Wallshaw cement their places this season then that's a very good return from our Academy - I can't see Briscoe getting in the way of any of these players getting a chance as none are backs.
We need as many players as possible and I don't care where they come from.
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I get the point, but as always its about opinion and I tend to agree that it sends out a message. It doesn't seem worth signing junior forms at wakey as they won't progress/promote you. Where's the faith? I accept this season may be difficult due to relegation, but what was the excuse during the franchise period?
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"I get the point, but as always its about opinion and I tend to agree that it sends out a message. It doesn't seem worth signing junior forms at wakey as they won't progress/promote you. Where's the faith? I accept this season may be difficult due to relegation, but what was the excuse during the franchise period?'"
What faith, we simply don't have a player that matches Briscoe nor do we have he depth.
You're creating an issue where there simply isn't one because there are no mythical home grown players having there nose pushed out.
There are issues regarding young players at the club and their progress or lack of but this one is a real red herring.
Oh and the franchise batch were basically spirited away to Hudds as you well know.
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| Quote ="vastman"I really don't get the point. There are no current youngsters at the club who are realistically good enough to lose out to Briscoe - I say this assuming he is a back and not a S/R as stated on the Rhino's site.
This point is becoming very laboured IMHO- if Anakin, Trout, Wildie and Wallshaw cement their places this season then that's a very good return from our Academy - I can't see Briscoe getting in the way of any of these players getting a chance as none are backs.
We need as many players as possible and I don't care where they come from.
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Am i right in thinking that SR Is completly wrong ?
Seems to have played most of his games at either full back or SH
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| Quote ="vastman"What faith, we simply don't have a player that matches Briscoe nor do we have he depth.
You're creating an issue where there simply isn't one because there are no mythical home grown players having there nose pushed out.
There are issues regarding young players at the club and their progress or lack of but this one is a real red herring.
Oh and the franchise batch were basically spirited away to Hudds as you well know.'"
Like I say; it's about opinions. The point you make about the quality of briscoe is interesting as that's the point I and others are alluding to; that local players (of that quality) may be put off because they dont see enough juniors given the opportunity to prove themselves at wakey. Also, i'm not "creating" an issue as other people have been discussing this point for a while now and nor do i profess to know the mood of every teenager in the wakey academy. I'll (sort of) give you the point about Huddersfield though!
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"Am i right in thinking that SR Is completly wrong ?
Seems to have played most of his games at either full back or SH'"
I'm guessing so, he doest look like a S/R either.
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| Kay and Cowling could be the ones who appear to have been lost, potentially being replace by Briscoe and Keinhorst. Kay was offered terms but they weren’t acceptable to his agent and Cowling left as he was going to Uni? IMO both these players should’ve featured a hell of a lot more last year than they did, and as a whole the licensing period was a waste in respect of blooding youngsters without the fear of relegation. The most damning was playing Washbrook at six when we had a young lad showing enough promise to feature there in his natural position.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Kay and Cowling could be the ones who appear to have been lost, potentially being replace by Briscoe and Keinhorst. Kay was offered terms but they weren’t acceptable to his agent and Cowling left as he was going to Uni? IMO both these players should’ve featured a hell of a lot more last year than they did, and as a whole the licensing period was a waste in respect of blooding youngsters without the fear of relegation. The most damning was playing Washbrook at six when we had a young lad showing enough promise to feature there in his natural position.'"
Thats fair, but coaches like players are not ready formed and perhaps Agar has learned a thing or two since last year - also perhaps he was under pressure from certain quarters, who knows. I do expect to see the most promising Academy lads, Walshaw, Anakin, Wildie and Trout feature heavily this season - I don't see Briscoe interfering with any of theme progress.
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| Quote ="vastman"I do expect to see the most promising Academy lads, Walshaw, Anakin, Wildie and Trout feature heavily this season.'"
I certainly hope so.
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| You seem to know a lot about Luke briscoe vasty, hope your right , I've seen him with rhinos 19s despite his reputation didn't look owt special to me
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| Cowling should of featured a lot more and so should Kaye last year. Fox form was not worthy of a place towards the back end of the year. I am a Fox fan but he was shocking at the end of the year. Agar has favourites if someone he disliked like MAriano had a average game then he would be out on his ear the following week. Its acceptable for Washbrook to plod on every week. Trout and Wildie got many chances last year and didn't show a thing! Why should they get priority over Kaye and Cowling. Cowling had bags of potential but we made a pointless signing in Reece Lynn who took over anychance Cowling had. This year we do need cover so its a good move for us and its a good move for Leeds giving him the experience. Not a big loan fan but if nobody incoming then its the best option
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| Quote ="try scorer"You seem to know a lot about Luke briscoe vasty, hope your right , I've seen him with rhinos 19s despite his reputation didn't look owt special to me'"
I have a life and don't claim to have seen every game of Academy RL ever played which you seem to have done. If you could be bothered to read my post I don't claim to know much about him at all, in fact like some others I was unsure as to what position he plays. What I said was that he is added cover and that he probably won't get in the way of homegrown players - but hey what do I know
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| I said you seem to know a lot about Luke briscoe on the strength of your statement that we simply don't have anyone to match briscoe
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| What's the issue? Even with the kids we have we still need cover for positions.
If he isn't all that, someone else will play.
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| If he doesn't come up to the required level he'll go back to Leeds, similar to how Brad Singleton did when he flopped at Belle Vue.
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| Quote ="try scorer"I said you seem to know a lot about Luke briscoe on the strength of your statement that we simply don't have anyone to match briscoe'"
Do we?
Who?
You were slagging off the two youngsters included by Clan in the squad the other week, make your mind up.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Why don't they just send the rest of their fringe players to us whilst we ship out our own young players?'"
The one that pd me off was the loss of young Kay he should have had far more game time last season as should Cowling Kay for me is a better player than Goulding and even on the wing would offer everthing that Briscoe would
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"The one that pd me off was the loss of young Kay he should have had far more game time last season as should Cowling Kay for me is a better player than Goulding and even on the wing would offer everthing that Briscoe would'"
But I'd assume Leeds are paying the majority of Briscoe's wage.
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| We also getting Jimmy Keinhurst or is this one where we asked for JK and they said err no but you can have Luke Briscoe.
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| Quote ="JINJER"But I'd assume Leeds are paying the majority of Briscoe's wage.'"
Not rocket science is it, you'd think we'd all be happy at a good young player joining us on loan and on the cheap but nooooo this is miserable Wakefield.
I call him good because he's in Leeds squad and they gave him a 4 year deal - i'd say it was fair to assume he is pretty good for his age even unseen
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| Quote ="mwildcats"We also getting Jimmy Keinhurst or is this one where we asked for JK and they said err no but you can have Luke Briscoe.'"
Not from what I have read, we were getting both but Keinhurst has got cold feet as it stands...
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| It really makes me laugh when people post stuff as if it's a fact!
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| Quote ="Daddycool"It really makes me laugh when people post stuff as if it's a fact!'"
Unfortunately this doesn't narrow anything down. In fact you could be speaking about the majority on here
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