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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"So I was living overseas when Glover was running the joint - I mean, did it all start well with him and he just got out of control with being the big man about town or was it always doomed from the start?
He can clearly make, sell and maintain windows and conservatories, so business doesn’t seem alien to him, or is it businesses that don’t make profit where he came unstuck?'"
Glovers biggest mistake was entrusting the running of the club to James Elston.
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| Quote ="Redscat"
I agree. Was a bad night that ffs.
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| I wonder if we're going to be disappointed again .
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| Considering how well things went during that 1st season I don't think we ever really recovered from the Pearman debacle during season 2.
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| Quote ="Roverman1"I wonder if we're going to be disappointed again .'"
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Considering how well things went during that 1st season I don't think we ever really recovered from the Pearman debacle during season 2.'"
Still a sore point with players even after all these years which is quite understandable really
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| Quote ="vastman"Bit of both.
I have been told more or less that some new money is coming. I haven’t been told how much.
Given the position we are in, which is near certain relegation. At least on League position I can’t see the need for millions straight away, though it would be nice. I don’t think you’d find many willing to invest huge sums right now.
What makes me laugh, and I suspect you and the smarter posters on here have worked this out. Despite what the trolls say Carter still pumps large amounts of cash into the club. When he leaves that will stop! These haters just don’t seem to get this. The financial hole will be enormous.
If we can find another MC to plug that gap in the short term we will have done well.
There is an old saying, you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone.
If it’s any consolation I get no feedback from MC anymore, I’m not sure he likes me all that much. But that doesn’t mean I can’t see what he does and has done, he’s fundamentally saved the club. So much so that after 25 years of flirting with relegation at least if it happens this time we can survive - it was a death sentence until the last two seasons.'"
Cool story bro, shame it’s not true!
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Glovers biggest mistake was entrusting the running of the club to James Elston.'"
Yes, couldn't agree more regarding this.
I was gobsmacked when I saw numbers of free tickets.
The discounted season tickets too, though I got the logic why it was done, the prices were set way too low.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Yes, couldn't agree more regarding this.
I was gobsmacked when I saw numbers of free tickets.
The discounted season tickets too, though I got the logic why it was done, the prices were set way too low.'"
Well the supporters were made to pay after they left and continue to do so.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Yes, couldn't agree more regarding this.
I was gobsmacked when I saw numbers of free tickets.
The discounted season tickets too, though I got the logic why it was done, the prices were set way too low.'"
At that time I remember approaching the turnstiles when Cas were playing and a bloke had a wad of complimentary tickets for sale. I remember saying I could get In cheaper and he knocked another fiver off. I heard later that the complimentary tickets were so basic hundreds were being photocopied and sold.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"At that time I remember approaching the turnstiles when Cas were playing and a bloke had a wad of complimentary tickets for sale. I remember saying I could get In cheaper and he knocked another fiver off. I heard later that the complimentary tickets were so basic hundreds were being photocopied and sold.'"
The good old days.
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| The Glover days were mental, I think he soon realised how difficult the task is and packed it in. I'm sure he just used it as free advertising for his business.
That and for getting drunk every game in the bar.
Didn't we have Francis Stephenson and Nick Fozzard doing the same job at one point?
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| Quote ="charlie"The Glover days were mental, I think he soon realised how difficult the task is and packed it in. I'm sure he just used it as free advertising for his business.
That and for getting drunk every game in the bar.
Didn't we have Francis Stephenson and Nick Fozzard doing the same job at one point?'"
It was a bit of advertising yes, but then at the same time, his TV advertising had the Wildcats logo there too, so that can be deemed as advertising.
I think Francis and Nicks time at Wakefield were at different times.
"Best be quick, these deals won't last forever"
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| Glover did half the job really well.
If you could merge him with Carter you'd have the perfect owner/CEO.
His marketing and publicity for Trinity was great.....just didn't keep an eye on the pennies so much.
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| Quote ="charlie"The Glover days were mental, I think he soon realised how difficult the task is and packed it in. I'm sure he just used it as free advertising for his business.
That and for getting drunk every game in the bar.
Didn't we have Francis Stephenson and Nick Fozzard doing the same job at one point?'"
How about these Good Times
[urlhttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/sep/22/wakefield-trinity-avert-winding-up-order[/url
[urlhttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/jan/06/wakefield-trinity-financial-straits[/url
Think Belle Vue had already been lost prior to this too?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Glover did half the job really well.
If you could merge him with Carter you'd have the perfect owner/CEO.
His marketing and publicity for Trinity was great.....just didn't keep an eye on the pennies so much.'" let's not forget glover saved our club
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| From memory didn't Glover also not call in his directors loan.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"let's not forget glover saved our club'"
Indeed. Glad you are starting to appreciate some of the people that have put their cash and time to save us over the years
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| Quote ="PopTart"Glover did half the job really well.
If you could merge him with Carter you'd have the perfect owner/CEO.
His marketing and publicity for Trinity was great.....just didn't keep an eye on the pennies so much.'"
Pretty much agree with that statement.
Having said that, he was not the only person on the board who was made aware of the financial status, or authorised to make payments on behalf of the club. All financial reports, such as aged creditors/debtors, cashflow etc, was presented to everyone involved in the fortnightly board meetings.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"let's not forget glover saved our club'"
He certainly did.
Also for his sins, a certain person, with fingers in loads of pies, not too poplular with Wakefield fans, put his hand in his pocket to pay an unpaid tax bill of around £175k.
Where would we be now, if that hadn't of got paid when it was?
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| Quote ="lampyboy"From memory didn't Glover also not call in his directors loan.'"
He did not, no.
Wonder if someone else will?
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"He did not, no.
Wonder if someone else will?'"
He has every right to if he does.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"let's not forget glover saved our club'"
I hope you are joking!
It took Ted 15 years to bankrupt the club, it took Glover 18 months to do the same. Trinity have dad some appalling leadership through the years, but Glover is second only to Pearman. who bankrupted the club in less than 6 months.
You and everyone else are entitled to your opinion on Carter, but re-writing history you're not, compared to those two in particular he's a genius.
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| Just remind us who was the accountant and therefore financial advisor at the time of Glover’s reign and what amount of money that he invested did he take back out because I presume the amount he didn’t is included in the director’s loans on the accounts.
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| Quote ="vastman"I hope you are joking!
It took Ted 15 years to bankrupt the club, it took Glover 18 months to do the same. Trinity have dad some appalling leadership through the years, but Glover is second only to Pearman. who bankrupted the club in less than 6 months.
You and everyone else are entitled to your opinion on Carter, but re-writing history you're not, compared to those two in particular he's a genius.'" no vasty I'm not joking, I'm certainly not trying to re write history. You can go back years and it's always been tje same, ted stepped up to try and make and difference and to save the club, he wheeled and dealed, sold players but we seemed to be mostly competitive. Ted ruined his own legacy at the club with his own actions. Glover then steps up when there was no one else to save the club, appoints jimmy go gun oh at it and we end up in the mire. Glover was pumping 50 grand of his money a month in and didn't RW pay the 170 grand hmrc bill. Carter sat on the board while more debt was run up then basically at the last minute carpet bagged the club with the condition Glover would write the directors loans off. What motive a hull fan would have for getting involved with us who knows. So he steps in and as been said many times he saved the club but as since started running it into the ground or circumstances behind the scenes have led to this.
From where I'm sat it looks a mess, the fans coughing money up for shares for a lawnmower, we can't sign players and it looks like it's going the same way of the previous regimes, the hope as gone and coming out with silly statements doesn't help. You can't knock anyone for trying vasty, they've give it a shot, 2 years 1 year 10 year it's all the same
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