If you read through his post again, I dont think that is what he said, not at all ?

Congratulations on a flawless and total misunderstanding of absolutely everything I said - that's quite impressive, in a really unimpressive kind of way.

Maybe but the comparison you made was absurd. I think you'll find there are some people involved in the Church of England who aren't raping underage girls.

Yes, just as there are millions of Pakistani men who aren't grooming young girls.
Bren appeared to be asking where the mob were, trying to deal with the Christian paedophiles etc. He certainly wasn't defending the stuff going on with the grooming gangs.

Just as there are millions of Pakistani men who aren't involved in grooming gangs; do you see?

It was actually just an aside to a wider point, that organised religion - regardless of its favourite mythological being - has no moral authority on issues of sex and sexuality; so quite why nutjobs like Folau feel qualified to pass judgement on LGBT people, is beyond me.

I do see. I see you virtue signalling your distaste for racists based on a wholly false equivalence. How righteous you are.

Have you been practicing that response or did you cut it out and save it for a rainy day.

In more simple terms, I couldnt give a toss if someone is black, white, green, grey, wears a uniform, tracksuit or a dog collar. If they have sexually assaulted or groomed kids, they should be dealt with accordingly - hope that's ok with you and we seem to have drifted some distance from the thread so, lets get back to where we were, if that's ok with you ?

I would like to suggest you locked this thread PT. I think emotions have been raised and not really what most fans want to read on a rugby forum. I know some will say ignore the thread.
The new season starts in a few hours, let’s get ready for that, and start debating rugby again.
Thank you

I would have thought that expressing my extreme distaste for religion is the opposite of both virtuous and righteous? Self-righteous would be a reasonable allegation - I'd take that.

Anyhow - there's nothing here for you to jump on; I don't like bigots - and Israel Folau, with the assumed moral authority of a made up religious text to embolden his wacky worldview, is an extreme bigot.

I hope Cas bring out a Pride shirt for Magic Weekend now.

Gareth Thomas will love the irony of that suggestion.

OK, I thought the reference to the grooming gangs was inappropriate. And Wrencat's contribution a bit 'hometown', considering the above.

Let's move on.

Nice one Joseph.

..... and of course I'm far too polite to mention Bungle.

Doh!

oops.

The man's entitled to voicing his opinions like everyone else, but if we're to have free speech it's got to work both ways so take the consequences when people call you out on your ridiculous views.

Might half it, if straight people stay away, unless there are more rainbow warriors in Wakey.

Why would straight people not go? Surely I'm not the only straight person who supports pride?

Theres no reason why anybody should stay away. It's not about being a rainbow warrior. It's about respect for differences. There is still too much homophobia around and unwarranted homophobic attacks. Thank heavens it is getting better all the time but everything we can do eradicate it has my total support. Trinity supporter and gay.

Well said sir.

TBH totally sick of minority groups restricting the freedom of expression of the minority - As a christian fallow expressed his views I dont agree with them but as we've just seen with alistair stewart - express a view and use terminiology to some one white - no out roar or sacking -express that same view and terminology to someone black - personal offence, sacking even though it looks like he was unaware of the ethnicity of the recipient in both cases,

Time we had equality for all not just loud minorities

And so it goes on.........

You are Laurence Fox, and I claim my £5.

Sorry but, I think you're wrong.

For those unable or less able to speak out, surely, it is right for others to take on their cause or step in when required.
The LGBT community have been attacked regularly and just for their sexuality ?? how, in any world, can that be right and to allow, Sportsmen, who after all are in a privileged position already, to take aim at groups that they may not be comfortable with, is just wrong.

I agree that in some cases, political correctness has gone a little too far but the alternative is to allow certain groups to be vilified for absolutely no reason.

Interestingly, all of those on IF's "hell" list have a choice in their actions, apart form those who are homosexual which despite the thoughts of some, is not a lifestyle choice.

Nothing rainbow warrior about wanting to make a stand against bigotry. I doubt any LGBT has gone out of their way to persecute yourself or Falou for being straight.

Thankfully your views are withering away like Ken Davy.

So as was expressed over the alistair stewart forced stand down after 40 years of service you think there should be no forgiveness for racism ? Murder, burglary fraud yes but inadvertently quoting shakespeare no, ? As regards folau are we going to ban the koran, the bible all of which express aforementioned views ?

So why is the rights of one minority trump the views of another ?