So, in the space of a couple of days, we get a tweet from MC saying that he is once again brassed off with the lack of progress, Sir Rodders setting up his own Community Trust to negotiate with Box and Mackie and now a statement from Box reporting alleged progress with 88M group and Yorkcourt !!
Call me cynical, but after 5 years of stone-walling and "it's nothing to do with Wakefield MDC", why does it now appear that it's Box and Co. that are apparently reporting progress and trying to put a positive spin on the situation and not the club and Supporter's Trust ???
Surely if there had been some progress, then MC would not have tweeted what he did and we would be hearing positive murmerings from him, TRB, SC and company ???
Smoke and mirrors ????

Maybe there are egos to be massaged, and perhaps now that progress is being made the people with the power want the open-top bus victory parade for themselves. Fine, if it's just about that. I'd be happy walking down Peter Box Way to the Rodney Walker Community Stadium if the damn thing got built.

So reading the article in the express adds more scenarios to the stadium saga.
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Well at least Box is throwing sound bytes out there. Would he be bothering if he didn't thInk this would get the green light at some point ? He knows a lot of people are on his case to deliver this project and he will want to be the man to take the glory.
TBH we are getting more info recently about what's going on than we have in the past god knows how many years.
Awake this sleeping giant that is Trinity.

""At a positive meeting on 1 June 2017, Councillor Box asked for a guarantee from the owner that the Club would be able to continue using the existing Belle Vue stadium over the next two years, whilst a Community Stadium is developed.

"At that meeting the owner has agreed that Wakefield Trinity can continue to use the Belle Vue stadium over the next two years."

Even though it's "not fit for purpose"?

No it isn't. And if that's what you've come to accept, it's no wonder as a country that we're ed.

Ever since I worked alongside him as a seventeen year old apprentice I have had respect and admiration (to a degree) of RMW, but as time as gone on I see he is no different to other capitalists of his ilk, and no matter how many pies he's had his fingers in (and there's been Hell of a lot) the winner has always been RMW. I can only think that his renewed involvement in the Newmarket saga can be to his benefit before the rest of the citizens of Wakefield. Having said that, if we come out of all this with a new ground (preferably on Neil Fox Way) then it's the price we have to pay.

So what's Yorkcourt's purpose then other than to make money?

Yes it is. If I were to blame anyone right now it's Rodney Walker who appears to have decended to the level of pond life. He has just deliberately given Yorkcourt the perfect out, it's hard to smell corruption in the air.

I wasn't disputing that fact. I was disputing it was "fair enough". The cost of everything and the value of nothing. It's time business was held to account in terms of morality and what is best for society and people other than their shareholders. But certain attitudes make it inevitable. If Mr Box had the attitude of original post i'd quoted then how can anyone complain? Business and profit over community and people, right?

Well Peter Box obviously shouldn't have that attitude as he is leader of the council and therefore his remit is something other than just to make money. Of course a property developer exists solely to make money though, as long as they don't act outside the law then they're free to do as they please. They're not a charity.

My step-dad had dealings with Sir Rodders on several occasions , when they were both at WMDC, and he said exactly the same, the man only ever gets involved in things that will benefit him.
Having spoken with a certain member of the Trust, I know that they are disgusted with the way that he has acted throughout his involvement in this process so far, so we therefore have to ask the question, what is going on ??
The Trust's sole aim has been to provide a Community stadium for the people of Wakefield and the Trust members have all given numerous hours of their own time over the past umpteen years to try and achieve this, obviously at considerable cost to themselves in both time and travelling etc and none of them have ever sought to seek financial gain, (heck, one of them is even a Rhino's fan !!!) and rightly or wrongly, they brought in Sir Rodder's to try and assist in the process.
Unfortunately, it would appear that his ego took over, as usual and he then insisted on attending subsequent meetings alone with the Council and Yorkcourt (none of which appear to have been minuted) and inexplicably agreed to the Newcold development not counting towards the 60,000 sq. m trigger point for the stadium build. Now why would he do that ???
The "genuine" members of the Trust eventually got wind of this and Sir Rodder's clearly found his position un-tenable and stepped down, yet here he is, forming a new Trust and lo and behold his two previous best buddies now say that they won't deal with the existing Trust and they will only deal with him, once his new Trust has been formally ratified BY THEM !!!
I SMELL A RAT !!
I bet the genuine Trust members, along with MC, are absolutely livid at the disgusting, underhand way they have been treated by these three disgraceful, devious individuals.......BUT........ let's just assume for one nano-second that the three wise monkey's have suddenly had a change of heart and do actually build us a stadium before hell freezes over, then who can we really thank for forcing them into a corner and making them perform a U-turn ????
The genuine members of the Trust, that's who, the guys who have been so passionate about this quest from the outset, who have fought bureaucracy and stone-walling, year in, year out, from a triumvirate of despicable individuals who have now evidently turned into glory hunters, only because they have been backed into a corner and have no other options open to them.
So, TRB, SC, IA, MC and CB (and others who have undoubtedly helped along the way..Fordy, was one, I believe ??), gentlemen, take a bow, because you are the true un-sung heroes in all of this !!!!
































P.S. - I know the stadium's not built yet, but things are definitely looking promising.

They're not a charity but they can't just be a money making entity to the detriment of people and communities either.
Some compromises have to be made when there is a conflict between the two, but the pendulum has swung too far one way.
Its symptomatic of the political landscape we live in as a whole.
The people WE put in power, allow it to happen, that's the problem.

Yep, Yorkcourt exist solely so as to make money for their shareholders. It's up to the council/government to ensure the community receives some kind of benefit so the failure is ultimately on them.

Without going in to too many details, remember this:

A Community Stadium - probably now likely to be 8-10k capacity with all amenities - needs to be built.
It was to be handed to the W&DCT, with the land to be retained by the developer but leased on a 'peppercorn' rent.
The Trust would then rent the whole facility on a full maintenance and repair lease to the club, with caveats relating to the use of the facility by the wider community (otherwise we would need an operating company with management etc, which the club can cover).
Any Stadium deal needs to allow the club - the anchor tennant - to generate revenues from it, through rentals, advertising, naming rights, operations, beer and catering revenues.

Without any of the above, the prospect of a successful deal is nil!

How utterly depressing is this stadium situation. Seeing the sudden interest in our club by prospective local MP's a couple of weeks ago clearly only there to gain a few extra votes. Seeing Box's sickly performance first hand at the council meeting a couple of months ago all to take the heat away from him when angry momentum was building amongst Trinity fans. Travelling to away games in recent months and being depressed about our situation whilst seeing stadiums such as Leigh, Salford & Warrington to name but a few all adding such value to their local communities and rugby league supporters.
What makes it all even more depressing is that I couldn't be happier with the way the boys are playing this season, the way the club is being run by an honest & loyal team of people, the new merchandise and rebranding and our fantastic league position.
What a bitter sweet season.

Peter Box in the Wakefield Express is very positive our stadium is on its way very soon, Michael Carter seems not positive at all about the progress being made and is waiting to see what boxy has to say on Monday in a stadium meeting. Who do we believe?? If you have been a Wakefield fan for the last ten years, it won't take you more than a millisecond to answer that!!
Who knows maybe the man nobody believes or trusts will pull a rabbit out of hat??? Or maybe someone from Wakefield will win the euro millions, which is more likely?

oh a parasitic boil on the 4r5e that we have to cuddle and feed for 50 years

hence the breakaway Rod Trust

Rod Trust......what a gloriously inappropriate title

just agree to it, we'll push em in the concrete as they're building it...

I'm probably being incredibly naive but to hear Box giving interviews like that has got to be a positive hasn't it? But with SRW & Yorkcourt attempting it seems to want to sideline the existing Trust who's intentions are transparent and honourable, just what is going on?

Perhaps the above have realised that they have to deliver something after all, whatever form it takes & wherever that might be & are trying to get SRW back in the game?

If the council and developer are really intent on delivering the stadium, there is absolutely no reason why they cannot continue to work with the original trust. As far as I can tell the only people involved in the process who have ignored requests to keep things in confidence are rodders (who ran to the wakey express with the story of the revamped bv option) and box wh o has done likewise recently without the courtesy of advising the trust of what is going on first.

Anyone who believes we have a better chance of getting what was promised and what meets the key requirements outlined earlier in this thread by TRB, from rodders new trust are imo at best naive and at worst deluded.

If there was ever a will to build it, it would have been built, but there never was and probably still isn't.
The Rod Trust is just spin to make it look like something might happen, to quell the uprising, and smoke screen to obfuscate, with that thing in the frame it'll be another 8 years to build nothing.

Should the worst happen and Box is pressured in to building the stadium, the Rod Trust is there to ensure that the cosy little scam they've got going between them all is maintained, they don't want no independent body in there asking awkward questions.....

and so it goes on

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Lets hope finally this happens

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