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| Well praise be to Allah, that that is over!
At least we weren't nilled!
As others have pointed out our new French signing looks pretty decent, certainly better than his future team mates.
Lyne took his try well.
That's about it on the positives!
Much work to do before St's away!
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| If you mean least game time that's an agar issue. Websters had him in. Contributes lots when he plays
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| Awful performance, zero positives to take out of that. Season now over, time to plan for next year.
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| If he couldn't force his way into a misfiring Wakefield team with even Walshaw having time in the front row then that's an Andy Raleigh issue I'm afraid!
I don't dislike him, he's got some quality and I'm not assassinating him as a player but he's not as good as Anderson which was my original point. If you wanted to show some love for him then you've done that!
Who would you have dropped for Anderson
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"If you mean least game time that's an agar issue. Websters had him in. Contributes lots when he plays'"
Is he retiring at the end of the season?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Because over the season he's contributed the least and therefore would be the one who made way for Anderson imo'"
I'd have liked to have seen Anderson on the bench at least and with hindsight play Ryan in the centres instead of Keinhorst making a bench spot available. Tautai could have done to have been at 13 from the start as he was when we played them at home and won.
Raleigh gave it his all today and was one of our better forwards IMHO. On the plus the second half we only lost 12:6 and that was after Ryan fluffing a certain try (although Catalan probably took their foot off the gas).
Summed up when it said afterwards that Catalan spend the full salary cap and have 13 first choice players out today. WTW spend nowhere near the cap do they and that 17 not far off our first choice?
Simon looks like he will be a good buy for Trinity next season.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"If he couldn't force his way into a misfiring Wakefield team with even Walshaw having time in the front row then that's an Andy Raleigh issue I'm afraid!
I don't dislike him, he's got some quality and I'm not assassinating him as a player but he's not as good as Anderson which was my original point. If you wanted to show some love for him then you've done that!
Who would you have dropped for Anderson'"
If there are reasons a coach isn't picking you that are beyond your control it isn't his issue. As I said. Webster is playing him. Anderson hasn't been dropped.
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| Yeah well beaten today but Les Cats are always a tough test in France. Just as long as Webster can ensure this blip doesn't become a setback, then I'm not worried.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"If there are reasons a coach isn't picking you that are beyond your control it isn't his issue. As I said. Webster is playing him. Anderson hasn't been dropped.'"
And you know for a fact that Agar wasn't picking Raleigh for something other than ability.
I know Anderson wasn't dropped, he's been injured but the original point was about how much impact Anderson would have had on today's performance.
So who would you have left out in favour of Anderson
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| Well, at least the players had a nice mini-break as reward for their efforts over the previous five matches .
Also, this will hopefully put to bed the highly optimistic notion that we’ll scrape into the eight .
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| Yes on the first point.
Anderson isn't injured.
I'd have dropped Washbrook and had Tautai at loose.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Yes on the first point.
Anderson isn't injured.
I'd have dropped Washbrook and had Tautai at loose.'"
Go on then?
He was
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| Quote ="The Avenger"It's still mathematically possible but very unlikely so we should be realistic and use the chance to see some of our fringe players in SL action.'"
I agree the season is over now which is good as we thought we would be battling relegation.so why not play people who could still be here next season would it not be better to play the likes of crowther anikin shulver jowitt Johnston instead of gilmour etc
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Well, at least the players had a nice mini-break as reward for their efforts over the previous five matches
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The final game run in looks beyond us with only our 3 home games against Hull Kr, Salford and Huddersfield looking winnable if we can put the wheel back on and we're 4 points adrift of 8th. Time to have a look at the overall squad.
Hull KR seem to have the easier run in for the 8th position now.
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| The temperature was too high for the team that we put out, people like Moore,Ali,Raleigh,Gilmour are just too far gone in years to be competing at that level in that heat. Time to look to next season and blood some of the young ones. Game time now could be invaluable come next season.Reaching the eight isn't important this season,next season is the one that counts.So start the process now.
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| Yes we lost but just to sum things up even when Catalan were not doing well at the start of the season it was still a big ask for any side to go and win over n their home turf.Heavens above Wigan only beat them last week because they imploded in the second half due to indiscipline.Yes we looked as if we had taken a step back in terms of effort and game plan but even at our best it was a big ask with them regaining form and the heat.
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| Quote ="The Trip"The temperature was too high for the team that we put out, people like Moore,Ali,Raleigh,Gilmour are just too far gone in years to be competing at that level in that heat. .'"
Think you can add Sykes to that list. Showed every one of his 40 years in todays performance.
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| Remember Catalan beat St.Helens 42:0 on the 14th June this year! We got blown away by a very strong powerful Catalan pack and we've signed one of their best forwards on a 2 year contract!
Despite having 4 forwards on the bench it wasn't enough and we were still clearly out muscled.
Get Walshaw (in second row) and Anderson back to freshen things up and send Gilmour back to Cas.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Remember Catalan beat St.Helens 42:0 on the 14th June this year! We got blown away by a very strong powerful Catalan pack and we've signed one of their best forwards on a 2 year contract!
Despite having 4 forwards on the bench it wasn't enough and we were still clearly out muscled.
Get Walshaw (in second row) and Anderson back to freshen things up and [usend Gilmour back to Cas[/u.'"
I agree with this. When he was signed I had assumed it was as cover for the centre positions as we were very short there at the time. I certainly think in the back row we have better options than gilmour, ie. walshaw, Molloy or annakin for starters.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Poor showing so far. Hopefully this will put an end to the ridiculous talk of the top 8.'" well we might as well pack it in then if that's what you think, what's ridiculous of thinking if your within reach of a play off spot, have you no ambition
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| Quote ="snowie"well we might as well pack it in then if that's what you think, what's ridiculous of thinking if your within reach of a play off spot, have you no ambition'"
After such an awful season Trinity don't deserve to play the extra match. It would simply paper over the cracks. Blood the players who are likely to be here next year and concentrate on making the 8 next season.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"After such an awful season Trinity don't deserve to play the extra match. It would simply paper over the cracks. Blood the players who are likely to be here next year and concentrate on making the 8 next season.'"
Which players do you want to blood ?
How many of our youngsters are even close to being ready for SL ?
We should certainly be looking forward to next season but getting beaten in Perpignan shouldn't mean that we write off our last 6 games.
WE should still be looking to beat Salford, KR and maybe Huddersfield this season and finish as strongly as possible.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Which players do you want to blood ?
How many of our youngsters are even close to being ready for SL '"
Let's find out whilst it doesn't matter.
I'm not overly enamoured with the two wing options, give Tom Johnstone a shot, Annakin has missed a lot of game time. Get him back up to speed.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Let's find out whilst it doesn't matter.'"
From my entertainment point of view and as a vehicle for selling season tickets I would argue that every game matters.
It may well be that there are players lined up for next year who aren't even signed up yet.
Think Gilmour can be sent back but we probably have to suffer Riley and Owen till the season end.
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