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| Quote ="lampyboy"It must have been high up on the hundred of things to do , because the smoking policies been introduced.'"
Or, it was quick and easy to resolve, so it was done and crossed off the list?
There has been a no-smoking policy at BV for ages, but the previous security company never bothered enforcing it; whether that's because they were told not to, or not told to, is irrelevant - we've got new bods in and it probably took MC (or a delegated official) 30 seconds to tell them to enforce the existing smoking policy. Job done.
Personally, I'm pleased - nothing worse than taking the kids and having to move because some inconsiderate git is puffing smoke all over them.
MC - you perhaps need to get some perspective; if you insist on using this forum, you must by now have realised that it's populated by the most dyed in the wool, longstanding supporters for whom moaning has become a habit; don't for a minute though believe that represents the majority view - it doesn't.
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| This is just bringing us into the 21st century.
Smoking in the stands is against current law anyway, regardless of what the club want, and I'd think the covered areas were are close although the legislation doesn't cover it as it isn't 50% walled off.
Ultimately, in my opinion (and only that) the law says you can't smoke in a public enclosed area. Although that applies to walls and glass, in a stadium it applies to people too. If you are in the middle of the North stand on match day, it is an enclosed area, whether build that way or not.....in my opinion.
To make a designated smoke area causes all kinds of issues.
How big, as it will take space from main crowd
Access to it, need to manage access from all parts of the ground
If not big enough one day, the queue will have to be managed from safety point of view
Cost to build something, we can do without any extra cost.
You won't be able to smoke at Newmarket as it will be covered anyway so lets call it practice for then.....
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| Don't worry, perspective is there. But if somebody has a go, expect a go back. This wasn't about smoking initially. It was about not listening to the fans and being in leeds pocket. Thus my response was, that if they really want to make all the decisions, they can. Quite simply. By taking over. It's there if they want to.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Don't worry, perspective is there. But if somebody has a go, expect a go back. This wasn't about smoking initially. It was about not listening to the fans and being in leeds pocket. Thus my response was, that if they really want to make all the decisions, they can. Quite simply. By taking over. It's there if they want to.'"
Can I do it for a week?
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| Come on in. Pay week would be good. You can get a real taste of it. I'll see you next Monday. 7.30 prompt at the ground.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Thus my response was, that if they really want to make all the decisions, they can. Quite simply. By taking over. It's there if they want to.'"
I don't think you'll get many takers; I've had plenty to say over the years, but so long as I have a requirement to get paid for my work, I'll be keeping my quid firmly in my pocket!
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| Cheers MC.Sounds good to me, sadly I'll have to say a no to your kind offer, I'm on a flight from Gatwick on Monday but I'd love a day in the future, see what it's like on the other side.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Any time'"
I may well take you up on that offer when I get back. Cheers.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think in MC's defence his "rant" was rightly or wrongly about the implication that he isn't doing a good job or listening to fans, rather than the specific smoking issue.
On the smoking issue, surely this is only the same length of time that you couldn't smoke at the cinema or a meal at a restaurant. You can leave both those places to smoke but you can't smoke inside and they don't have smoking areas.
At work, I can't imagine many empoyers liking smokers going outside more regularly than 2 hours.
Why is a rugby match different?'"
It was a semi tongue in cheek comment about the RFL and not listening to fans after a few similar coments last week about players also being ignored. a few posters picked that out straight away.
While no offence was intended if thats how its being taken then tough.
I don't hold with being in Leeds pocket and i do smoke but have made no reference to it either way.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Mr Briggs i would probably spend more time smoking that watching the dark side. I welcome your suggestion ,but no thanks. In case you did not know it was not union i was watching it was Wakey v London .Also i will choose to spend MY money as i please. Thanks'"
Dear Master Lampyboy I realised it was RL you were watching but as you like the Stoop so much was trying to point out to you it is only RU that is played their now. As for spending your money as you choose please don't let me stop you.
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| Well I thank you Mr Briggs
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| It's all gone a bit formal!!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"It's all gone a bit formal!!'"
Just Lampyboy & myself trying to raise the tone.
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| Quote ="forever_trinity"Dont see the big deal about the no smoking, you're only in Belle Vue the best part of two hours. Not like you're going a full day.'"
It might feel like all day this season.
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| Perhaps so.
However I shall be there from the first minute against Salford to the last minute v hull kr.
We as a team, will have given it everything we can. If that works out to be not good enough then so be it.
On another point, now we have 2000 season tickets or nearly do, what do you think average walk up would be, even if we had the worst season possible??
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Perhaps so.
However I shall be there from the first minute against Salford to the last minute v hull kr.
We as a team, will have given it everything we can. If that works out to be not good enough then so be it.
On another point, now we have 2000 season tickets or nearly do, what do you think average walk up would be, even if we had the worst season possible??'"
1000 with potentially an average of 500 away fans.
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| I think running through the list we'll average 1000 away fans, when you consider leeds bring 3000, hull kr 2000 cas 2000 and hull saints and Wigan 1500.
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| Worst season possible hmmm I'd agree is 1000 home supporters; wasnt that long ago we had 4k attendance.. had under 5k for a play off game vs catalans.
If it got that bad though there'd be plenty who had bought their season ticket who wouldnt choose to come.
Sure it won't be like that though.. although based on the last friendly. (yes I know you can't take anything out of friendlies)
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Doesn't make it clear does it?
Non smoking stadium. As a smoker I'm not impressed with that.
Surely there could be designated areas for smokers?'"
Inside your own house?
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| Dear Mr Daddy Cool
I believe
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| I thought we already had a ban after the dead ford fire
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| Absolutely delighted the smoking ban will be implemented correctly this season!
Three times last year me old man was argued against by different people for politely asking them to not blow smoke in his face.....considering he was in the right knowing it was supposed to be a non smoking stand.....and the fact he's in his 70's and a few years ago was fighting for his life with lung and breathing problems, then I think he had every right to ask the question.
Nothing worse than rude people like that who have to get nasty because someone has asked them to stop doing something......hopefully now it won't happen again....
I used to smoke myself aswell but could always manage to get through a rugby match knowing me Dad didn't like the smoke near him......the same way I could go without on an aeroplane......or in a cinema.....or a restaurant.....etc.....etc.....
Considering all that's been done for us as a club by MC and the staff down there I personally think it's a huge insult for any smoker to complain at all.....just my opinion!
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| Interesting thread
I think its fair that most people are carrying thier own preferences and prejudices, opinions and attitudes. History suggests that most of us used to meet a few mates in the pub on a Sunday night, have a few beers a game of pool and chew the fat. All of the stuff we talk about on here was discussed, argued and more often than not expressed and left in the pub. This is our new pub and it isnt as good for getting stuff off your chest, simply because it stays written on the board for eternity. Some things a said in the heat of a discussion which are neither factual nor do they truly reflect what you believe, you sayit out of frustration or because you are losing the argument.
A wise person once said"it is better to have a cynic in your team rather than someone who doesnt care"
Most of us on here (and in life) are cynics, but everyone on this forum cares about Trinity, often so much that it hurts.
I have almost 50 years of this clubs historty in my veins and I really hope for 50 years more. I mioss nothing that happens at the club and will often get up very early on a Monday morning to listen to the radio coverage, I will watch every televised game on Eurosport involving Trinity, even if I have to move meetings around.
I have however completely lost interest in everything else about the sport, I havnt watched a UK challenge cup final or play off game in years (except the couple involving Trinity) I have even turned down free tickets to watch State of Origin. I think the latest change to the games structure is an appalling piece of missmanagement, and will do the game untold harm.
So thats why I now pledge to watch Trinity and trinity only, I dont care where we are in the league, what the other teams are doing, who is in what league.
I only care that, each week we play nice attractive football, and do our best.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"This is an open forum, it is here for people to pass comment as they wish.
Surely this is exactly the place to express an opinion and experience tells us not just to nod our heads and "p" up the new chairman's back.
Someone passing comment is not supposed to be in any way a direct criticism of MC and all Wakefield fans owe the guy heaps of gratitude but, this shouldn't stop someone posting if their opinion is different to our gaffer.'"
People can come on here and moan if they want. Personally I've found that moaning, like worrying, is a waste of time and just gets in the way of enjoying life. If you want to moan please go ahead but when you get MC as peed off as he sounds I would just be careful what you wish for.
Moan over!
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