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| Maybe Nigel Wood needs to get on a plane sometime and blag some more money from another multi- millionaire like Dr Koukash
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As I said on the VT the other day - the RFL told us and Cas that our licences were under constant review and that retention of said licenses was contingent on upgrading our stadia to a certain standard; that included a % of covered standing/seating areas.
We spunked almost £500k to deliver on that and Cas did bugger all; now the requirement has been scrapped and we're half a million quid or so out of pocket.
It's a perfect storm - bad luck, poor judgement and a flip-flopping regulator that wouldn't know a long term strategy if it punched them in the knackers.
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As I said on the VT the other day - the RFL told us and Cas that our licences were under constant review and that retention of said licenses was contingent on upgrading our stadia to a certain standard; that included a % of covered standing/seating areas.
We spunked almost £500k to deliver on that and Cas did bugger all; now the requirement has been scrapped and we're half a million quid or so out of pocket.
It's a perfect storm - bad luck, poor judgement and a flip-flopping regulator that wouldn't know a long term strategy if it punched them in the knackers.
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| Quote ="bren2k"As I said on the VT the other day - the RFL told us and Cas that our licences were under constant review and that retention of said licenses was contingent on upgrading our stadia to a certain standard; that included a % of covered standing/seating areas.
We spunked almost £500k to deliver on that and Cas did bugger all; now the requirement has been scrapped and we're half a million quid or so out of pocket.
It's a perfect storm - bad luck, poor judgement and a flip-flopping regulator that wouldn't know a long term strategy if it punched them in the knackers.'"
Excellent point Bren....surely the RFL hierarchy can see what state their contrary rule-changing has left our club in, and should have a duty to step in and help ????
AG was clearly told that he had to improve the state of BV in order to keep our licence, and promptly invested £500k in doing so, only to have the rug pulled from underneath him !!!
So what are the RFL going to do about it then........I think we all know the answer to that one...jack shoot..that's what, 'cos we're not called Bradford !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"
Shame Gareth Bale isn’t a Trinity fan, what with his reported £300k per week
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Bigger shame that his agent isn't, having made £5 million on the deal.
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| I'm still not buying this feeling hard done by because we've improved facilities for spectators. What's to say that that investment hasn't helped increase the attendance figures at Belle Vue now that it's given cover in case of rain and increased the atmosphere?
I think it's very short sighted to whinge about that when it's obvious money must also have been frittered away elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Trinity 61"Maybe Nigel Wood needs to get on a plane sometime and blag some more money from another multi- millionaire like Dr Koukash
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Need a cargo plane for him
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| Quote ="bren2k"As I said on the VT the other day - the RFL told us and Cas that our licences were under constant review and that retention of said licenses was contingent on upgrading our stadia to a certain standard; that included a % of covered standing/seating areas.
We spunked almost £500k to deliver on that and Cas did bugger all; now the requirement has been scrapped and we're half a million quid or so out of pocket.
It's a perfect storm - bad luck, poor judgement and a flip-flopping regulator that wouldn't know a long term strategy if it punched them in the knackers.'" would love to see them squirm while this question was put to them
get me a front row seat
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Don't know. If he had to operate a turnstile on match day I am sure a lot of folk would pay to go through it
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| Quote ="griswold63"it maybe isn't topcat but a lot of us have had a belly full of false dawns and promises and ultimately turn into lies, I know first hand that some people behind the scenes raised concerns about spending and our capacity to keep spending again without us going not debt again but where told everything's fine and they did not have the power to anything abut this except watch it go tits up, I for one do not want to see us struggling with average players again sorry but it breaks my heart to see us in this mess again and do not feel we are giving value for money with season tickets knowing our best players are not going to be there and we will be in relegation fight if that makes me a bad supporter after 30 years so be it'"
We've lost Tim Smith so far.....He was one of my favourite players.....great to watch when on song and a massive player for us.....Last season he was fantastic......this season not so good....he's a tough one to replace but I more than understand is was an absolute no brainer to take the money that was offered.....and immediately too.....
We still have plenty of quality players and if the club get the backing they need between now and the start of next season we may well be able to wheel and deal and sign another gem or two.....keep hold of the rest of what we've got....and be more than competitive.......but for two narrow losses to the best team Super League has seen in the last decade we may well have got on a roll and got in the top eight again.....As I said.....Smith is a huge loss, no-one can argue with that.....the majority of the rest of the squad haven't become poor players overnight......their performances the last month or so have probably mirrored how a lot of the fans are feeling at present.....
The last thing any fan needs to do now though is desert us because we sold a player we had to sell!!
Just out of interest.....you say the club are not giving value for money with the current season ticket deal......how much should they be priced at???
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| Quote ="FIL"Excellent point Bren....surely the RFL hierarchy can see what state their contrary rule-changing has left our club in, and should have a duty to step in and help ????'"
Rumour has it they already have.
To trinity - I'm not suggesting that it's the only cause of our woes - far from it - but it can't have helped. Maybe we would have done something a bit more modest if we'd known the RFL would 'forget' about that requirement a few short months later?
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| We could always sell the roofs to raise funds?
Since we don't need it anymore!
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"We must try not to sell Amor him and Kirmond are quality players and are hard to come by and hes still only young we must do as much as we can to keep hold of him!'"
yes so everyone buy their season tickets where financially able or even go buy one thing in the shop ..surely everyone could do with one extra T shirt .
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| Only Mr Carter knows how quickly he needs the £400k shortfall. After the Cas match there is no further gate income for months.
So it looks like he will have to raise £200k in player sales very quickly & remember there are few clubs out there with big fat wallets.
I wish the Wildcats all the best but I fear the family silver will have to be sold ......................unless somebody speaks to Sir Rodney?
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| Quote ="Topcat13"We could always sell the roofs to raise funds?
Since we don't need it anymore!'"
To Eric France? Oh wait...
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| Well so far Carter has been honest and we will be selling a couple of more players but Im told Warrington and Leeds will be letting us have some players on loan for next season if that happens.It might not be the end of the club if they let us have a few good players and we will owe them both a massive thank you.
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| Quote ="bren2k"To Eric France? Oh wait...'"
You say that Bren but didn't the actual Eric France hand over the company to his son in the late 90's do wasn't part of the bankrupsy. I'm sure I was told that. Could he do a personal loan to the club??
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"You say that Bren but didn't the actual Eric France hand over the company to his son in the late 90's do wasn't part of the bankrupsy. I'm sure I was told that. Could he do a personal loan to the club??'"
As far as I understand it, both are involved in an absolutely ginormous unpaid VAT bill; sufficient amounts to make your eyes water.
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| Seems like we're not the only club who's new owners spent more than what they had. Bulls issued a winding up order now. They've done it in a year less than us which is truly remarkable! Maybe we need to heap praise on ag and je for lasting so long! In all seriousness the games in a sorry state financially. It's only the sugar daddy clubs who can survive and be successful (Leeds apart). The rest of us just seem to struggle from crisis to crisis
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| Quote ="les-goose"Well so far Carter has been honest and we will be selling a couple of more players but Im told Warrington and Leeds will be letting us have some players on loan for next season if that happens.It might not be the end of the club if they let us have a few good players and we will owe them both a massive thank you.'"
Me being the cynic I am: Warrington have lost Morley/Carvell/Cooper and require a prop, Leeds needing a hooker - just a coincidence and nothing to do with largesse?
If they are genuine offers without strings, they just want game time for fringe players, I will apologise, but...
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| It would be a shame but that's where we are I'm afraid.
Would be great to keep them, and even though Aiton is one of my favourite players I'd let him go before Amor.
But if I were a Leeds fan, I'd prefer to stick with their own youth prospects rather than going for overseas players.
We are not short of hookers in this country. It's Stand offs and centres we find hard to produce
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| Quote ="PopTart"We are not short of hookers in this country. It's Stand offs and centres we find hard to produce'"
Is that really the case, or are we just too risk-averse when it comes to filling these key positions, preferring what is considered to be the safe overseas option over our own young players? We may yet find that the necessity of now giving the likes of young Bobby Goulding a run in the team pays great dividends in the future. Just a thought.
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| Quote ="bren2k"To trinity - I'm not suggesting that it's the only cause of our woes - far from it - but it can't have helped. Maybe we would have done something a bit more modest if we'd known the RFL would 'forget' about that requirement a few short months later?'"
I know, I just find it a bit rich of the club to moan about that when Belle Vue has been a dump for decades and has needed work doing to it. To be honest, I'm sure I posted at the time asking about the point if we were so confident on moving into a new ground anyway.
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| Quote ="bren2k"As far as I understand it, both are involved in an absolutely ginormous unpaid VAT bill; sufficient amounts to make your eyes water.'"
I thought that too but Trinity Metals is opening soon and it will be very interesting to see who owns that company so as they say watch this space.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Seems like we're not the only club who's new owners spent more than what they had. Bulls issued a winding up order now. They've done it in a year less than us which is truly remarkable! Maybe we need to heap praise on ag and je for lasting so long! In all seriousness the games in a sorry state financially. It's only the sugar daddy clubs who can survive and be successful (Leeds apart). The rest of us just seem to struggle from crisis to crisis'"
You are right of course but don't forget its not that long ago Leeds were in trouble and bailed out by Paul Caddick.
I understand that there are only 2 Super League Clubs that "make money" and I guess Leeds are one of them and maybe Wigan the other. Both however have the security of Sugar Daddies. I'm also led to believe that Ken Davy puts in around £2m a year into Huddersfield. Saints are heavily in debt but as the debt is in the form of Director's Loans and not a problem unless the loans are called in but that tends to be unlikely as they are fans themselves.
Clubs like us without a Sugar Daddy will always have it hard. Does anyone know any Sugar Daddies ?
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