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| Cant blame him for looking for work. After all, we all have bills to pay, however, his timing is unacceptable.
He may have gone public to try and lever AG into offering a new contract at Wakey, but this is poor form.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Sorry but he should have kept his powder dry for now. Yes he's probably off and wants to look at his options but to come out and openly state you would like to join your clubs nearest rivals, the one that the club is up against for a licence, two weeks before the announcement, is i'm afraid pretty poor form. What he does behind the scenes is up to him but in public he should have kept his trap shut.'"
Why should he have kept his powder dry? he has nothing to lose and everything to gain, he knows he is out of work at the end of the season, so he doesnt care about how this looks for us, like i said the love affair is over.
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| Why do your dirty washing in public.
Obviously Cas will know he's interested if he sends an application in and if he wants to let AG know hes looking for work elsewhere, there are better ways to do it !
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Cant blame him for looking for work. After all, we all have bills to pay, however, his timing is unacceptable.
He may have gone public to try and lever AG into offering a new contract at Wakey, but this is poor form.
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That thought had crossed my mind.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Why should he have kept his powder dry? he has nothing to lose and everything to gain, he knows he is out of work at the end of the season, so he doesnt care about how this looks for us, like i said the love affair is over.'"
Are you serious? He is under contract to us and thus should be seen to be concentrating on us and us alone. Stating in the press that he'd like to work for our rivals is not on, end of. And if he doesn't care how this looks for us then he should be relieved of his duties immediately as he isn't commited to the cause.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Are you serious? He is under contract to us and thus should be seen to be concentrating on us and us alone. Stating in the press that he'd like to work for our rivals is not on, end of. And if he doesn't care how this looks for us then he should be relieved of his duties immediately as he isn't commited to the cause.'"
Like i said hes got nothing to lose and everything to gain, sack him and we have to pay him up so he gets his money either way and we have no coach and sends out the wrong message to the rfl, "coaching crisis at Wildcats!!!".
Sad but true, and the way things are going i'm fairly sure he wouldn't be bothered if he had nothing more to do with us and he can put his feet up for a few weeks!!!
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| You cant blame him.
I understand he wants to talk about a new Wakey contract but thats not happening.
He has to pay his mortgage like everyone else
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Sorry but he should have kept his powder dry for now. Yes he's probably off and wants to look at his options but to come out and openly state you would like to join your clubs nearest rivals, the one that the club is up against for a licence, two weeks before the announcement, is i'm afraid pretty poor form. What he does behind the scenes is up to him but in public he should have kept his trap shut.'"
Agree 100% and what I was trying to say when Vastman accused me of talking tosh.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Another way of fending off the question would be "I have a contract until the end of the season and that is my primary focus."'"
Yes - Justin Morgan hasn't commented on the speculation that has been far more publicised about him and the Cas job then Kear for it.
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| i spoke to john the other day in my shop, told him to get out of my club
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| Quote ="Sun Bed Kid"i spoke to john the other day in my shop, told him to get out of my club
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You wouldn't do that.........would you ?
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| Shock - Horror - "Cas lad applies for dream job in SL"
Has anyone thought that the BOD at Wakey might have given permission to JK and the players to start seeking future employment elsewhere ?
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"You wouldn't do that.........would you ?'"
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Shock - Horror - "Cas lad applies for dream job in SL"
Has anyone thought that the BOD at Wakey might have given permission to JK and the players to start seeking future employment elsewhere ?'"
They may have but they don't have to rub our faces in it by spouting off to the press.
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| Quote ="Sun Bed Kid"when i have had 29 mins of UV mate ill rip anyone's head off'"
It's not worth it.
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| Can I be the first to offer my very best wishes to JK for the Cas interview? I hope it goes well.
'Classy Cas', with a group of supporters desperately clinging on to an outdated moniker alluding to free-flowing, expressive rugby and a coach who's technical expertise extends no further than 5 drives and a kick and 'having a right good dig.' It's a match made in heaven!
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| there a lot of you backing for him looking after his own interests but how many on here have let there own employer know there intentions to look for work publicly,
my last job I handed my notice in before a very important job was to be done it could of caused his company to be in big trouble but I told him I would stay for the build and will return for the rip out, in which I did and got praise and respect from him
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| I personally feel as a coach you are in a very privileged position you are basically the public leader and custodian of a club that to many is more than just a sports club. Fans deserve more respect at such a difficult time for this person in a very colloquial sport to turn round and say whilst still leading a team publicly that they are interested a job at there most bitter local rivals who it seems will be getting a place in the league at the expense of his current club.
Of course he is entitled to look for other opportunities and who can blame him, but going public with this is a bit like kicking a man when he is down.
The timing of the announcement makes it all the worse. He clearly has friends at the RFL and carries a bit of influence in the media, this is just more negative PR for the club.
Really poor in my opinion.
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| "a coach who's technical expertise extends no further than 5 drives and a kick and 'having a right good dig" - Thats why most Cas fans don't want him.
Anderson, Morgan or Noble for me.
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| Quote ="Tigerade""a coach who's technical expertise extends no further than 5 drives and a kick and 'having a right good dig" - Thats why most Cas fans don't want him.
Anderson, Morgan or Noble for me.'"
Noble?! he wrote the text book on crap underachieving rugby!
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Thats why most Cas fans don't want him.'"
I know - that's precisely why I hope you get him!
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| Quote ="jonh"Noble?! he wrote the text book on crap underachieving rugby!'" miles better than Kear and at the mo better than any British coach
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| Quote ="snowie"miles better than Kear and at the mo better than any British coach'"
Cant agree, I personally would rather have Cullen ahead of Noble, awful coach (not saying Cullen is a great coach by the way).
Cullen for me made 1 basic massive error in his time at Wire and it cost him his career. He is very analytical in his analysis of the game and possesses that inquisitive Australian mentality.
I am nervous about Sean Wane getting his shot next year its a massive risk on Wigan's behalf but he too could hopefully be the start of a young British revival, I have no time for the Bradford drones Noble, McDermott, McNamarra and to a lesser extent Harrison. I actually think the early success of Bradford in SL has set our sport back 5 years in terms of British coaches because of the clamour for the mentality and knowledge from that successful period for them that became very dated very quickly.....especially when you consider very clever players like Edwards and Ford were lost to the code at around the same time.
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| Quote ="jonh"Cant agree, I personally would rather have Cullen ahead of Noble, awful coach (not saying Cullen is a great coach by the way).
Cullen for me made 1 basic massive error in his time at Wire and it cost him his career. He is very analytical in his analysis of the game and possesses that inquisitive Australian mentality.
I am nervous about Sean Wane getting his shot next year its a massive risk on Wigan's behalf but he too could hopefully be the start of a young British revival, I have no time for the Bradford drones Noble, McDermott, McNamarra and to a lesser extent Harrison. I actually think the early success of Bradford in SL has set our sport back 5 years in terms of British coaches because of the clamour for the mentality and knowledge from that successful period for them that became very dated very quickly.....especially when you consider very clever players like Edwards and Ford were lost to the code at around the same time.'" is Cullen up for position again, his sad loss of his wife at the time of coaching would bound to effect his job, as for the Warrington sacking that too may have had some reflection to the way it ended there.
I can see where coming from with the Bradford era but Noble is a similar stature in the way he can motivate players, his experience of being at that level must count for something and working side by side with a new coach like Tony Durey who knows the lads coming through would be beneficial
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| Quote ="snowie"is Cullen up for position again, his sad loss of his wife at the time of coaching would bound to effect his job, as for the Warrington sacking that too may have had some reflection to the way it ended there.
I can see where coming from with the Bradford era but Noble is a similar stature in the way he can motivate players, his experience of being at that level must count for something and working side by side with a new coach like Tony Durey who knows the lads coming through would be beneficial'"
A Director of Rugby would be a perfect position for Noble, whilst his on field coaching and tactical ability left much to be desired behind the scenes he did work wonders in stabilising the club at Wigan. The problem with him mentoring a young coach is he could mould him into his ways and his ways are not the way rugby is now never mind in the coming years and technically as can be seen in the transformation of Wigan he has major flaws.
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