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| Quote ="kinleycat"edited for honesty and reality.'"
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| I've been changing my mind from one hour to the next about JK,looking at the positives I don't think many of the top Coaches around would have dealt with the problems at Trinity this season any better than JK,but that is just a guess.Then looking forward can JK get the team playing good RL again,without knowing whats going on inside the club it's a hard one to answer.Hopefully the club can make the best decisions for the club and the fans.
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| Quote ="chapster"oh god have morrison and murphy gone too??'"
They've run off together, had a civil ceremony and they now run a sanctuary for confused, limbless giraffes on lupset!!!!
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| Quote ="chapster"Kear is the clubs biggest asset at present, and his leaving now would be, to me, a final indication that all is not at all well in the club, in more than just the personnel and perfomances on the pitch.'"
So kear is the clubs biggest asset is he? I take it you haven't watched the dross served up for the last 12 games then? Oh i forgot we have lost our 3 most influential players brough i accept for his kicking game. But newton played one and half games and was poor. Tronc prob had 3 decent games b4 he gave in. There's more than enough quality at wakey to compete and we simply have not. The buck stops with kear and i think its time for a fresh approach.
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| Quote ="trin77"[uSo kear is the clubs biggest asset is he? I take it you haven't watched the dross served up for the last 12 games then?[/u Oh i forgot we have lost our 3 most influential players brough i accept for his kicking game. But newton played one and half games and was poor. Tronc prob had 3 decent games b4 he gave in. There's more than enough quality at wakey to compete and we simply have not. The buck stops with kear and i think its time for a fresh approach.'"
I take it from your post that you have watched the last 12 games then and as such are qualified to pass judgement on Kear.
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| [urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jun/20/wakefield-catalan-dragons-john-kear[/url
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| Quote ="kinleycat"They've run off together, had a civil ceremony and they now run a sanctuary for confused, limbless giraffes on lupset!!!!'"
not another one? least it keeps the trees trimmed on broadway.
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| Kear is in the last 3. Interviews to be held over the coming weeks.
Not sure who the other 2 are but Kear is definitely having an interview for the job.
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| Quote ="chissitt"I take it from your post that you have watched the last 12 games then and as such are qualified to pass judgement on Kear.'"
Yes I have watched the last 12 games. The one dimensional toothless attacking play, the repeated defensive frailties out wide not addressed, schoolboy errors, ridiculous interchange selections, throwing away of match winning leads, players constantly played out of position. This is all down to one man, Kear. As a season ticket holder and therefore customer I believe I am entitled to an opinion not judgement on who coaches the club. Maybe I should just be one of the sheep who applauds off yet another incompetent, gutless performance.
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| So far this season, every time the opportunity has presented itself, we've offloaded an M&S quality player and replaced from Lidl; that suggests to me either serious financial problems at the club right now, or a wilful attempt to reduce outgoings in preparation for bad times ahead.
I think it probably IS time for Kear to go, but given the above, I expect a bargain basement replacement like Beans or Harrison, which will only compound our problems. Hard to feel optimistic about our club at present.
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| Quote ="chapster"not another one? least it keeps the trees trimmed on broadway.'"
Thus reducing the burden on Wakefield council, ever thoughtful them two, ever thoughtful!!!!
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| Now then, how is this going to play out, if there's 3 candidates, does the runner up automatically get the wakey job, unless kear doesn't get the job then he's stuck here?? I'm a bit confused!!!
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| Quote ="trin77"Yes I have watched the last 12 games. The one dimensional toothless attacking play, the repeated defensive frailties out wide not addressed, schoolboy errors, ridiculous interchange selections, throwing away of match winning leads, players constantly played out of position. This is all down to one man, Kear.[u As a season ticket holder and therefore customer I believe I am entitled to an opinion not judgement on who coaches the club. [/uMaybe I should just be one of the sheep who applauds off yet another incompetent, gutless performance.'"
Ba Ba oh sorry I'll talk in language you understand then shall I, I'll let you into a secret, your not the only st holder on here its just that some of us have a little more understanding of the difficulties at the club than some others and are a little more patient and believe it or not we also have opinions to which we are also entitled to. I have no intention of answering all of your points because I dont have answers to them, perhaps he has no choice in playing players out of position I dont know, you clearly do from the criticism you give him and as for his team selections why dont you ask him to run them by you. One last thing I can tell you is that every day they practice knock ons religiously and havent they got that down to a fine art throwing the game away in the last minute or so, Kears done very well there the players are very low on confidence at the moment and it shows on the field and I dont suppose it helps with fans on their backs, you would probably call your post constructive criticism to me its just whinging hth.
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| Well if they're practising knocking on, that's just asking for trouble, kear out!!!
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| Quote ="chissitt"I dont suppose it helps with fans on their backs'"
You are Wayne Rooney and I claim my £5!
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| Quote ="bren2k"So far this season, every time the opportunity has presented itself, we've offloaded an M&S quality player and replaced from Lidl; that suggests to me either serious financial problems at the club right now, or a wilful attempt to reduce outgoings in preparation for bad times ahead.
I think it probably IS time for Kear to go, but given the above, I expect a bargain basement replacement like Beans or Harrison, which will only compound our problems. Hard to feel optimistic about our club at present.'"
No one would deny that we're not the most cash-rich club in the league, and we have to try to maximise our assets. However, you have to consider the other issues here.
Most contracts are sorted before the season kicks off - sometimes, like Hodgson to Wire, in the middle of the season before. If you try to replace key players mid-season, who are you likely to get? Not the kind of players you'd hope to get, for sure, unless you can pay a fee, and the players themselves ask to be released. All unlikely, given our situation.
Having little money is not necessarily a crisis, if you spend what you have carefully. We may be using the money we have to try and promote things that will secure the long-term future of the club. That has to be worth it, even if life in the short-term looks as grim as it does now.
One thing's nailed on - if supporters turn their backs on the club and the team at a time like this, then the "end of the world" scenario will follow as sure as night follows day. No time for faint hearts - either the club, the team, and the fans can tough it out and show a bit of metal, or the doom-mongers will have created a self-fulfilling prophecy. In my opinion.
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| Quote ="bren2k"You are Wayne Rooney and I claim my £5!'"
Somebody has told you, either that or its a good guess. I'd try the lottery next week, the cheque's in the post btw.
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| There are obviously divided opinions on whether we should part company with JK, but based on the stories that he has had an interview with Catalans and is possibly to sign a 3 year contract as early as this week, it appears that JK may be the one who is looking to get out.
To me this clearly has to have a negative effect on the players, even if he had not lost the dressing room before the story of his potential move to Catalans.
There are many fans on here who would and have said about players, if they don't want to be here then get rid. Well if JK has been in talks with Catalans, to me he has shown his heart is not in it anymore, and that coupled with the poor brand of rugby and baffling team selections should spell the end of his tenure (However, I accept that we probably could not afford to let him go, if he wasn't earmarked for the Catalan job).
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| Quote ="chapster"www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/article-1288027/Catalans-30-Wakefield-23-Firefighter-John-Kear-lined-coach-Dragons.html?ITO=1490
mail think so'"
If Kear is going, gone are our chances of a Stadium! ?
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| Quote ="grae"If Kear is going, gone are our chances of a Stadium! ?
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Why?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Why?'"
Ok then, it was a question not a statement.
But, if Kear is going, does he know something we dont about the Stadium??
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| Quote ="grae"Ok then, it was a question not a statement.
But, if Kear is going, does he know something we dont about the Stadium??'"
I see what you mean. Not necessarily - the stadium doesn't guarantee us a franchise anyway.
He may just see it as a new challenge with a bigger playing budget and a definite 3 year license
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1 Wigan 17 30
2 Warrington 17 26
3 St Helens 17 24
4 Hull FC 17 22
5 Leeds 17 21
6 Huddersfield 17 18
7 Bradford 17 17
8 Hull KR 17 16
9 Wakefield 17 14
10 Crusaders RL 16 12
11 Castleford 16 10
12 Harlequins RL 16 10
13 Salford 17 10
14 Catalans 16 4
the table doesn't lie, he must think the team that's well adrift at the bottom is a better bet than the one he's built up over the last couple of seasons, so has he,
1) twigged to the probability we won't get a franchise?
2) become disolusioned with our lack of off field development?
3) lost the dressing room, and feels unable to motivate the team?
4) become fed up of the stick from some supporters?
5) got a cheep deal on a job lot of piz buin?
I personally think the first is most likely, but it could be a mixture of many.
Either way, we have developed more under his tenure on the field than at any time in recent times, and it would appear to be a) a big slap in the face to the club and our future ambitions, b) a shame as he has added a level of proffesionalism we were sorely lacking.
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| Quote ="wakeyjosh"Would be shocking if we lost Kear. If Harrison is such a good coach, why is he at Batley, surly he would still be at Salford!'"
Must not be a bad one though if he can get Salford in the play offs?
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