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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"And his current position of coach at Leigh? Is he earning a living of his past when taking them from the bottom t the top of the league?'"
Just presumed he was talking about Paul Cooke sorry mate old age.
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| I am annoyed at the constant changing at 9, latu has been our most effective player, he's on we score, he goes off before half time for 40mins then comes back on where down and not enough time to make an impact.
Dont sub him if you dont need too. I get the feeling all coaches feel obliged to have 2 hookers and use all 12 subs at any cost.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"I am annoyed at the constant changing at 9, latu has been our most effective player, he's on we score, he goes off before half time for 40mins then comes back on where down and not enough time to make an impact.
Dont sub him if you dont need too. I get the feeling all coaches feel obliged to have 2 hookers and use all 12 subs at any cost.'"
Not sure about Latu, agree he gives us some of our few "sparks", but his distribution is often woeful from AHB, putting us right on the back foot. 2 hookers is the way, but personally I would start with Davey and bring Latu on at 9 after 30 mins if Davey needs it straight swap and if not maybe get Latu on at 13.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"icon_surprised.gifops: Just presumed he was talking about Paul Cooke
sorry mate old age.
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Must have missed all Cookey's grand finals and his WCC!!
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| Iām sick of hearing posters squealing for J.K to go.
Yes, it is a team he has assembled, however, Iām sure at the start of the season he never envisaged losing our go to player, a quality hooker and a barnstorming prop.
The Cooke gamble appears to have failed, but itās not the first time heās made a poor choice ā Paul Reilly anyone!
I donāt think I have ever expended so much energy berating my own team on Friday.
Shocking ball retention, poor discipline and pathetic defensive structure. Iām sick of teams scoring in the left hand corner, with Blanch nowhere to be seen. He either has no trust in his teammateās ability to tackle, or cannot grasp the concept of good wing play.
Whilst the pack can hold itās own against any side, on Friday there didnāt appear to be the leg-pumping efforts they expelled against Leeds. The number of times Moore took the ball from a standing start was laughable.
With no playmaker on the horizon it looks like itās down to B.J to take the mantle, letās hope he can re-capture his early season form, and some.
Before the season started, looking at the squad, I thought we were in for a great season, but, due to circumstances beyond the clubs control its all gone pear-shaped, so I feel a little sorry for J.K.
You can put lipstick on a pigā¦ā¦.
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| to be honest whoever goes in to AHB it makes no odds, as he has no scrum half to pass to! its our second pass that sooooooooooo easy to defend becuase its too slow, hence defenders are quicker on backs, hence more mistakes etc etc
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"[udue to circumstances beyond the clubs control [/uits all gone pear-shaped'"
I agree with most of your post, but I think you're being over-generous with that statement; the circumstances we now find ourselves in - rudderless, directionless and lacking creative spark - were NOT beyond the clubs control. Only the loss of Newton was beyond their control.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I agree with most of your post, but I think you're being over-generous with that statement; the circumstances we now find ourselves in - rudderless, directionless and lacking creative spark - were NOT beyond the clubs control. Only the loss of Newton was beyond their control.'"
So the Tronc debacle was the clubs fault?
How could they envisage the Broncoās would have room for him.
Regarding D.B, well, itās been done to death, but, we as supporters can only go on what we hear from those āallegedlyā in the know.
All three have stitched the club up, not the other way round.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Not sure about Latu, agree he gives us some of our few "sparks", but his distribution is often woeful from AHB, putting us right on the back foot.'"
Not always down to Latu. Forwards need to be running onto the ball from deeper, not standing still almost in line with the play of the ball.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"So the Tronc debacle was the clubs fault?
How could they envisage the Broncoās would have room for him.
Regarding D.B, well, itās been done to death, but, we as supporters can only go on what we hear from those āallegedlyā in the know.
All three have stitched the club up, not the other way round.'"
I guess we'll never know the full story about Tronc, but it strikes me as bizarre that we rolled over and released him from his contract so readily. Either we HAD to release him because we hadn't fulfilled his t&c's, or someone upstairs is very naive when it comes to contract negotiations. Surely we don't release a star signing simply because a big 'glamour' club announces that they 'have room for him?'
As for DB - I agree that the issue has been done to death, but that doesn't change the fact that it appears to have been a very poor bit of business that left us without our main playmaker and talisman; a bit of business that has never been properly explained, leaving a vacancy that hasn't been filled.
So, our three highest earning players have exited the club, to be replaced with a rag-tag collection of youngsters, has-beens and loaners whose combined wages are probably around half the combined wages of the players they're nominally replacing; as I've said before - good for the balance sheet, but really bad for the fans.
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| JK can only work with what he has! I don't think it would have helped matters that his main playmaker dropped out injured in the last 5 mins of the last training session before the game All set plays would have been organised through Jeffries. Davey I believe is still injured.
Only point I would make, is that JD is not a hooker/AHB........but who else do you put there if Sam is at 7 and Leo is knackered at half time?
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| Kear has done his best with a average set of players. In my opinion he has worked miracles. Hes made a few strange decisions but its hardly his fault newton took drugs, Ted got rid of our best player, Ted thought Millard would be a better option than Atkins and Tronc got homesick due to Ted putting him in a flat over looking potobello keys. Come on Kear is the best thing thats happened to us for years. With this new ground we shall be rejuvenated and Kear will still do a good job for us. Ludicrous people saying he should go!
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| Surely there is enough money in the pot to lure either Black (halifax) or Briggs (fev) to Trin. or im sure if you offered them a loan deal until the end of the season they both would jump at the chance to play SL?? Cos its srum half where the main problem is..
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"kear out'"
5 MORE YEARS , 5 MORE YEARS
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"Surely there is enough money in the pot to lure either Black (halifax) or Briggs (fev) to Trin. or im sure if you offered them a loan deal until the end of the season they both would jump at the chance to play SL?? Cos its srum half where the main problem is..'"
Offering them a deal is fine....if the clubs would allow it, which in absence of a nice fee, I doubt they would.
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| Maybe offer young Wildie or a other prospect halve to them in exchange...
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"Maybe offer young Wildie or a other prospect halve to them in exchange...'"
God no, Wildie is a very good prospect and I would be seething if we just let him go (Unless you mean for a loan spell for a bit, then it wouldnt be so bad!)
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| I did mean on loan mate...
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"I did mean on loan mate...'"
No worries then!
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| Rather than start a new thread, we can just revive this one.
Once again appalling team selection - Morrison at half back -- What planet is Kear on?
Davey not introduced to the game for an hour!!
JD - past it and quite simply not good enough for centre at this level anymore.
Sliding defence -- doesnt exist.
At 16 - 0 down - Wigan get reduced to twelve men -- what do we do - continue with 5 drives and a kick.
JK has done a sterling job,but he is way past his sell by date.
Forget all the excuses,players leaving,crap finances,JK saved us,JK is the second coming of the Messiah ,theres no one else, blah,blah,blah.
Even with the limited resources at his disposal,it is not acceptable to turn in another performance like today.Couple that with a season of utterly confusing team selections and a game plan that seems to consist of five drives and a kick,tells me what i believed months ago - Time for JK to go.
His coaching methods are out of date and hes lsot the plot.
I dont particularly care who would replace him,surely they cant serve up any worse garbage than we are paying to watch.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Rather than start a new thread, we can just revive this one.
Once again appalling team selection - Morrison at half back -- What planet is Kear on?
Davey not introduced to the game for an hour!!
JD - past it and quite simply not good enough for centre at this level anymore.
Sliding defence -- doesnt exist.
At 16 - 0 down - Wigan get reduced to twelve men -- what do we do - continue with 5 drives and a kick.
JK has done a sterling job,but he is way past his sell by date.
Forget all the excuses,players leaving,crap finances,JK saved us,JK is the second coming of the Messiah ,theres no one else, blah,blah,blah.
Even with the limited resources at his disposal,it is not acceptable to turn in another performance like today.Couple that with a season of utterly confusing team selections and a game plan that seems to consist of five drives and a kick,tells me what i believed months ago - Time for JK to go.
His coaching methods are out of date and hes lsot the plot.
I dont particularly care who would replace him,surely they cant serve up any worse garbage than we are paying to watch.'"
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| Me for example, or some other not very good at coaching type.
Be negative all day long, but if you can not be constructive, i.e. offer an alternative, I suggest you are devoid of ideas.
Time for JK to go? Name his replacement then.
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| Not sure what happened there. Techno fear I guess.
But I am sure you get my point.
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| I dont agree with the constant switching players in key posistions, apart from when brough was here have we had a starting 6,7,9 be the same 2 weeks running.
No wonder we have no ideas, is because there's no partnership / combination's, familiarities with each other. Morrison was outstanding last week, so we move him to 6 and he did what he could which in this posis wasnt much.
Can we not have some stability.
Its really annoying, stick with a few players and some of the selections substitutions in recent weeks are mind-blowing, this coming from one of the biggest kear fans / supporters.
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