Let's all hope a real partnership between fans/trust and the club directors is one really positive thing to come out of this.
I sense more on here are wanting to come out fighting than give up.

That's what we've always wanted. The Trust has never wanted to run the Club, quite honestly it's not capable of running a Super League Club, but it has always wanted the supporters views to be taken into consideration when the Board makes decisions that effects its fans.

Michael Carter has said in his statement that he is meeting with representitives from the Trust and we are arranging to meet with him early next week.

Hopefully we will achieve a positive outcome for the Trust, the Club and its Supporters.

Think it would be a good time for the new chairman to meet the fans and answer any pertinent questions (not unreasonable ones). Keeping the fans informed will create more harmony and less rumours escalating out of hand, which seems to be the Wakey way.

They always do when they are on their .
Then when things are less complimentary they are a bit more arrogant.
When the club needs to deflect rumour they are positively awkward.
I can't see them holding the ST in any brighter light.

I hope I am proven wrong but I can't see it happening long term.
At crucial times the realism of running the club and the needs of the supporters are diametrically opposed.
Would that it weren't!!

I do hope that the club will look in it better light than they did last time as the impression I got was that they thought we was interfering rather than helping

You have my support

If you can invest 50 grand a season in between you they won't see you as insignificant.

It's about spreading the word something we are working on at Hull KR. It's tough getting people to believe in the concept.

We've been going 9 months and got about 200 members currently and held maybe 3 events plus done a charity cycle ride to headingley for the Leeds game.

We'll have probably raised around 6 grand by the end of the season in which we'll use towards the purchase or shares and eventually a seat on the board.

Our aims are to get it to the wider fan base in the off season and grow the membership significantly which we believe is possible.

Dont know if Carter will let the ST in and have a voice at board meetings but if I owned the club and it was my money I was putting in then all final say would be with me.Yes I would be more welcoming and have meetings with the ST to get fans views on how we could make the match day experiance better etc.One thing is for sure if I owned the club some of those that have jobs at the club would not have been anywhere near the club in the first place.

We don't want the ST to run the club - but to have a vote and influence on some of the decisions that affect us, the supporters, would be terrific. We also appreciate that the club is a business and anyone voted to represent the Trust on the BoD would have to respect the business of the club and be bound by restraints of any director - otherwise it wouldn't work - i.e. we would not be able to do anything which could potentially damage the business.

We await our meeting with Mr Carter with anticipation!

Quote ="TRB"We don't want the ST to run the club - but to have a vote and influence on some of the decisions that affect us, the supporters, would be terrific. We also appreciate that the club is a business and anyone voted to represent the Trust on the BoD would have to respect the business of the club and be bound by restraints of any director - otherwise it wouldn't work - i.e. we would not be able to do anything which could potentially damage the business. We await our meeting with Mr Carter with anticipation! '" Like I said before if you want any help or advice then don't hesitate to contact us info@roverssupporterstrust.co.uk

Quote ="TRB"We don't want the ST to run the club - but to have a vote and influence on some of the decisions that affect us, the supporters, would be terrific. We also appreciate that the club is a business and anyone voted to represent the Trust on the BoD would have to respect the business of the club and be bound by restraints of any director - otherwise it wouldn't work - i.e. we would not be able to do anything which could potentially damage the business. We await our meeting with Mr Carter with anticipation! '" Like I said before if you want any help or advice then don't hesitate to contact us info@roverssupporterstrust.co.uk

Congratulations you seem to be doing very well is a short period of time.

We have been going 3 years and have around 200 members, which we had and the start, but it's been difficult to improve on that. The Club made it clear that they were not offering shares for sale and there was no place on the Board for the Trust. This makes our role difficult. We cannot acquire shares. Fans find it pointless supporting the Trust when it is perceived as not having a voice in the running of the Club. The Club may see the Trust as insignificant with membership at only 5% of the fan base. Bit of a Catch 22 situation.

The reality is that I believe the Trust has had a good relationship with the Club but we have never felt that our views, which we believe are the views of the general spectators because that's what we all are, have never been fully sought.

May be the new Chairman will have different views, only time will tell.

Hopefully, you'll never know unless you can get in contact with the new chairman and Mr Glover etc

We used Supporters Direct to get up and running and they were a massive help to us

Quote ="MrPhilb"Like I said before if you want any help or advice then don't hesitate to contact us info@roverssupporterstrust.co.uk'" Thank you squire!

Quote ="MrPhilb"Like I said before if you want any help or advice then don't hesitate to contact us info@roverssupporterstrust.co.uk'" Thank you squire!

They were fab with us when we started, then Laura left and he link kind of died away - I think it was partly because they were frustrated that we couldn't make progress beyond being a bit of a faux supporters club - which was never our intention.

What sort of things do you think the ST member could influence?
As far as I can see the remit would be very very narrow due to the reality of financial constraints on the club vs the unrealistic viewpoint of the average supporter.
Isn't this something of a poisoned chalice for anyone willing to take the position should the club decide to approve it?
Will the board member in times of difficulty be just viewed as "one of them"?
Looking at recent events or even the spirit of 1873 era as a whole how could an ST member on the board have changed things? I don't think for a minute JE and therefor AG would have taken much on board as they/he was clearly doing things his/their way. After all the CEO is a paid professional with a background in the sport (clearly it made little difference) and the ST member just a well meaning amature.
I think something like a club appointed and paid supporters liaison might be the best way of gathering supporter input and combining feedback etc, but even that would be potentially difficult.
I honestly don't see what the ST could gain, but as a ST member I am happy to have that view changed.

Kinley, you may be 100% correct but until there is a supporters rep on the Board or attending Board meetings we'll never know. Of course what supporters want and what can be delivered financially may well be poles apart but with a rep at meetings the supporters views will have been heard and considered even if they cannot be acted upon. Also it then may be possible to explain to the fans why decisions have been made which may then make those decisions more palatable.

As I have said, we'll never know unless we get chance to give it a go.

The bod could chose to make explanation now, but for whatever reason (good or bad) they choose not to.
When things were new and über positive the fans found voice on here and many of the suggestions were acted.
The forum was then viewed as an annoyance by Elston at ST evening I attended, if I recall this was at a time when some criticism or another was doing the rounds.
I feel this will be similar in two ways with any ST involvement.
It's easy to be open and honest when the going is good but less so when times are more challenging.
As the board member would that person be able to openly discuss club board matters; I feel this is unlikely in the main, therefore would the STs man (or woman) on the board be viewed with similar suspicion/scepticism as how the Bod have been recently in similar events?
Equally would the club be willing to discuss all matters with a supporter, maybe when things are good, but what about when things are more sensitive.
While we all strive for a successful club, the implications for the administrators and supporters are polar opposites at times.

A BoD member, ST or otherwise, would be bound by the same expectation of confidentiality as any other BoD member, so if the aim is to have someone attend a BoD meeting then come running here with all the juicy goss, that wouldn't work at all.

A ST BoD member could however, act as a conduit between the club and supporters, by canvassing views, representing the supporter voice or asking questions that fans have put to them; that would rely however on that ST BoD member having a representative constituency, which 200 members most certainly does not give them.

If I were MC, I wouldn't bother with it at present; there's a lot to do and some of his decisions are going to be unpopular; he'd be better off just posting a blog on the club website once per week, letting people know as much as he chooses to about what's going on and explaining the rationale for his decisions. If he's honest and truthful from the start, he needs to continue in that vein, rather than making a big splash about the most trivial of news, whilst keeping schtum about the less positive stuff. If the ST is to have a place on the BoD, I'd look to get the wheels in motion over the off-season, when things are a bit quieter.

We wouldn't want a rep in exchange for nothing - and that's all we've got just now. We want a rep based on something meaningful - a bagful of shares for instance, or a guaranteed income to the club.

As supporters we have money and much more available - the key is how to make the most of it.

Question for Kinley - would you rather the club made decisions without the supporters input or not? We wouldn't have a majority vote in any case, but as with other board members we would hope to have the opportunity to inform and influence the BoD such that supporters considerations were taken into account. Ultimately the power rests where the shares do.

We are not inventing wheels here. We were set up and run under the guidance of Supporters Direct who were funded by the government in order to provide a vehicle for supporters to have a say in the running of their club, and I would argue that, following on from WISA/WiSCA, Squadbuilder and SWAG that we have already had more influence over our club than any other in SL and that we are the prime target for taking the next step in supporter involvement. The benefits for the club are likely to be a closer working relationship / access to the skills resource with the supporter base and money - win/win in my view!

That's what we have presently. If the BoD want our input (the supporters) they can ask, look on here etc, which they did initially. Lets not forget MC, AG and DL along with wildcat comms have all had presences on here so they know where we are and what the fans think.
I'm not convinced that having a board presence would be welcomed, necessary or beneficial to either party or to the "lucky" recipient of the nomination.
We aren't inventing wheels but are we changing the shape of one for no good reason?

What exactly constitutes a 'good reason'? Doesn't nearly going bust 2.5 years after the last time count???

I think we are talking on different levels here - we are talking about overseeing the running of the club, having access to and being involved in business decisions that preserve the club for the prosperity of its supporters now and for future generations.

The new BoD can either view us with the scepticism you do or they can embrace us and let us work together to try and keep this club where we all want it.

We have a club tagline, which I have lamented before, but there is a genuine opportunity for us to become that club - you know, 'Together we are Stronger'.

We will explore this as far as it will take us and see what comes of it - that is what we are here for and that is what our constitution demands of us.

I don't view you with any scepticism at all, I think differently that's all, no need for such a childish remark.
Your view seems on a different level to that of Sandal Cats. He wanted to get the supporters view across where as you want to oversee the running of the club; if I understand both of your comments correctly that is a fundamental difference of opinion and confusing.
In theory the idea is great in practise my view. Is that it comes with many flaws.
At the end of the day however you wish to proceed is none of my business I was just trying to add my unbiased opinion. The club will either accept or not.
No offence guv'.

I know it's irrelevant, but I hate that strap line, and it should be left behind with the old regime.

Apologies - didn't mean that the way it reads - I meant scepticism towards this way of working, not towards us per say.

I'm quite happy that the goals I mentioned are shared by SC - and the remaining board members. We're not here just to be yes men, but just as we are on here, we share the same goal as the club, but not necessarily the same route to it.

Totally agree.