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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"He doesn’t say he’s leaving, just end of an era, which it is for the ground. There have been no leaks from the club or any other clubs about him joining them which is surprising if this were true. I’m calling him snd his brother on 2 yr deals announced the day before season tickets go on sale'"
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| Quote ="chissitt"The club must have been paying him silly money then if he's that financially secure that he doesn't know what he wants to do next.
Those[u players[/u you are hearing that are under contract and are wanting out would you like to name some of them for those of us without access to this grapevine.'"
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| Quote ="paulwakefield795"Not convinced the source is 100% accurate, but heard it at the last couple of games now. Can only hope otherwise.'"
I've heard something similar, about 10 leaving but could just be pub talk though so who knows.
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| Quote ="paulwakefield795"Not convinced the source is 100% accurate, but heard it at the last couple of games now. Can only hope otherwise.'"
Best way for these contracted players to get out is to get relagated the last few weeks they aint played as if thats what they want
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| Regarding dave i didnt believe it at first but sadly i believe its true now with what i read since no more than milky partner saying how strange living in england without the fifitas is going to be.
Think at this current time the club are going to have difficulty selling season tickets,players leaving left right and centre no links to players coming in,another dissappointing year, and then theres the seating area this is for me bo fault of the club there doing the best thay can but there are some whos unhappy about it.......
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| I've heard from a red red Robin bobbing along that was sat on a grapevine outside the chippy next to the pub............ absolutely nowt!!
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| Quote ="paulwakefield795"Heard through the grapevine that he is definitely leaving but doesn’t know what he wants to do yet.
Also hearing that a lot of in contract players are wanting out.'"
and you made that up when exactly?
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Regarding dave i didnt believe it at first but sadly i believe its true now with what i read since no more than milky partner saying how strange living in england without the fifitas is going to be.
Think at this current time the club are going to have difficulty selling season tickets,players leaving left right and centre no links to players coming in,another dissappointing year, and then theres the seating area this is for me bo fault of the club there doing the best thay can but there are some whos unhappy about it.......'"
Come on don't revert to your old self, wait and see.
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| Quote ="vastman"Come on don't revert to your old self, wait and see.'"
Im not been negative i just feel that currently wont rush due to the lack of players incoming and plenty of out goings it wont stop me im actually quite excited by alot of departures (not all)feel its been needed but there is plenty it will and as for seating area i think club done great i wont fault em but i remember after saints game people crying about getting wet so would think
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Im not been negative i just feel that currently wont rush due to the lack of players incoming and plenty of out goings it wont stop me im actually quite excited by alot of departures (not all)feel its been needed but there is plenty it will and as for seating area i think club done great i wont fault em but i remember after saints game people crying about getting wet so would think'"
What I will say is that it's odd this rumour hasn't made it onto the TotalRL site, who often post gossip lifted directly from here as fact. Something odd going on.
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| Batch and Aydin leaving is not ideal at all, the way these lads have performed along with Hall and Murphy has been the highlight in a poor season. The really bad news is that we are apparently talking to Gale, he is finished, his legs have gone. If we sign him it will be on a par with getting Lineman.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Batch and Aydin leaving is not ideal at all, the way these lads have performed along with Hall and Murphy has been the highlight in a poor season. The really bad news is that we are apparently talking to Gale, he is finished, his legs have gone. If we sign him it will be on a par with getting Lineman.'"
If we sign Gale then the club just don't learn.
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| My god I hope Gayle isn’t being considered
Would be like brough coming back
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Batch and Aydin leaving is not ideal at all, the way these lads have performed along with Hall and Murphy has been the highlight in a poor season. The really bad news is that we are apparently talking to Gale, he is finished, his legs have gone. If we sign him it will be on a par with getting Lineman.'"
Opinions and all that, me I think people are totally wrong about Gale just as they were about Finn, but fans never learn.
As for Gale v Lineham sorry but no contest, on one leg Gale is way better. I saw him play against us at Hull and although he was average he did things Lineham never did.
He tackled, he ran, he kicked he even touched the ball. So lay off wiggy he’s way better than the non flying pig!
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"If we sign Gale then the club just don't learn.'"
Sorry but you're wrong in what you say.
You may be right that Gale is a bad signing if true. I happen to believe he'd do ok, but that's just opinions.
What needs correcting is the statement 'the club just don't learn'. It's not the club is it, it's the incumbent coach and it always is, if you believe MC and JM and I do, that they do not get involved in signings other than the finances. This player would be totally down the WP and nobody else.
If the blame for Lineham lays with Chester and he seems to get the blame, then fairs fair.
So all those digging at this signing, many of who have defend WP, are contradicting themselves.
Either WP isn't up to the job as I've suggested a few times, or he is, in which case Gale is a WP signing and he should take the heat for it, not the club.
I suppose you could re-phrase the question - why does the club keep hiring inexperienced or failed coaches, which with the exception of Kear and Smith is what we've done in SL. It's not Gale or the club who should be under the cosh should this signing happen and be a failure, it's the coach.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Batch and Aydin leaving is not ideal at all, the way these lads have performed along with Hall and Murphy has been the highlight in a poor season. The really bad news is that we are apparently talking to Gale, he is finished, his legs have gone. If we sign him it will be on a par with getting Lineman.'"
Sorry if I’m missing something with Aydin but from what I saw he’s had a number of matches but far from a regular. The majority of which were short spells only (some very short). He’s been solid though does tend to get pushed back and lose yardage on ocassions. I do like his aggression but feel his body needs to catch up and he’s one that will mature in a few years into a regular SL player.
Batchelor is streets ahead of Aydin. Not sure what all the fuss is about. I don’t want him to leave but we’d be silly to break the bank for a player yet with a lot to prove.
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| If keeping injurie free Gale would be a good squad player and won't be on the money he use to be on at the other clubs, Remember he has a good kicking game and he has slaughtered us enough times in the past so if there's nobody else out and he's cheap enough then we should go for him.
Regarding big Dave and Andrew sign them both for they swansong year lets give them there fairy-tale ending i say.
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| So the guessing and hoping can stop the club as announced its bot tinni and daves farewell games,gutted both are leaving and more gutted i wont be there to show my appreciation at the end due academy lads playing. 2 players that will deserve every appluse for me so if someone can clap a little louder for me,
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Sorry if I’m missing something with Aydin but from what I saw he’s had a number of matches but far from a regular. The majority of which were short spells only (some very short). He’s been solid though does tend to get pushed back and lose yardage on ocassions. I do like his aggression but feel his body needs to catch up and he’s one that will mature in a few years into a regular SL player.
Batchelor is streets ahead of Aydin. Not sure what all the fuss is about. I don’t want him to leave but we’d be silly to break the bank for a player yet with a lot to prove.
I feel like I’ve missed some of these very good performances.'"
You'll find with Belly that at the merest hint of a player leaving they suddenly gain god like status, From being a fringe player, which he is, Belly and a few others have now elevated him to Gareth Ellis status. It's ridiculous we know that, but thats what they do, when in truth he's just gone OK for his age.
I just about get it with Batch even if I don't think he's a superstar, but Aydin, seriously! I'd prefer we kept him and see how he goes but if he left I wouldn't lose a moments sleep. If he makes it big at HKR then good for him, but I don't see anything in him that makes that a certainty.
If you compare him to Eseh or Shaw he was not at their level at 18-19 and physically never will be. Eseh and Shaw may not have the game time yet but both have far more potential, especially physically and at prop thats the biggy for me.
If we have to let Aydin go to allow those two to stay then to me that looks a calculated risk worth taking.
Let's be right here, a club like Trinity can only really afford to run with two young and inexperienced props, I wish it were otherwise but its a juggling act as ever.
Despite this Aydin will join that non-existent team of future internationals who come back to never ever haunt us in any way whatsoever.
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=#FF0040Regarding big Dave and Andrew sign them both for they swansong year lets give them there fairy-tale ending i say.'"
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| It’s WP’s time to really sink or swim.
The aim of the club was to get some parity in the wage structure.
We now, like it or not, have offloaded the players who had waged inflated by the top 5 finish.
The big concern is that we are late to party due to the uncertainty around our SL status.
Leigh quite clearly are not coming up to make up the numbers so we have another hell of a job on our hands to survive next year.
I was at the start of the year of the opinion that the 22 & 23 seasons are huge for the club going forward and could dictate our ability to develop a truly competitive team who are not perennial strugglers or a club fighting for its existence in the lower divisions.
WP now has the opportunity to place his mark on the team and there can be no references to Chester’s influence next year.
Losing Batch is a blow no doubt he’s for me finally started to live up to the promise particularly in the last 4 months.
Losing Aydin I feel is another blow ok it’s not season defining but he is a Wakey lad who has shown he is comfortable at elite level as a junior. He still has a way to go and whilst I do t think he is ever going to be a top SL star I do think he could be a perfect long term replacement for T.
We have a major rebuilding exercise to do over this offseason and it could go either way.
I’m already anticipating 23 will be tough I just hope we all get behind the team.
A key signing will be who partners Lino. Chester sold us a dream that we had finally found the controlling half we desperately needed and hadn’t had since Finn. If you watched Lino in the NRL it was clear he wasn’t that type of half. Lino is a strike half, just like Milky.
The obvious one is Gale, and I wouldn’t be against it. He has the controlling style we need and he does have a certain arrogant swagger and aura around him that we need to take that shirt. Williams is another option and whilst I thought he was outstanding for us at times he lacked consistency.
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| Quote ="jonh"It’s WP’s time to really sink or swim.
The aim of the club was to get some parity in the wage structure.
We now, like it or not, have offloaded the players who had waged inflated by the top 5 finish.
The big concern is that we are late to party due to the uncertainty around our SL status.
Leigh quite clearly are not coming up to make up the numbers so we have another hell of a job on our hands to survive next year.
I was at the start of the year of the opinion that the 22 & 23 seasons are huge for the club going forward and could dictate our ability to develop a truly competitive team who are not perennial strugglers or a club fighting for its existence in the lower divisions.
WP now has the opportunity to place his mark on the team and there can be no references to Chester’s influence next year.
Losing Batch is a blow no doubt he’s for me finally started to live up to the promise particularly in the last 4 months.
Losing Aydin I feel is another blow ok it’s not season defining but he is a Wakey lad who has shown he is comfortable at elite level as a junior. He still has a way to go and whilst I do t think he is ever going to be a top SL star I do think he could be a perfect long term replacement for T.
We have a major rebuilding exercise to do over this offseason and it could go either way.
I’m already anticipating 23 will be tough I just hope we all get behind the team.
A key signing will be who partners Lino. Chester sold us a dream that we had finally found the controlling half we desperately needed and hadn’t had since Finn. If you watched Lino in the NRL it was clear he wasn’t that type of half. Lino is a strike half, just like Milky.
The obvious one is Gale, and I wouldn’t be against it. He has the controlling style we need and he does have a certain arrogant swagger and aura around him that we need to take that shirt. Williams is another option and whilst I thought he was outstanding for us at times he lacked consistency.
If we get the Prop recruitment right (please no more middles) and that half signing right we may just be on to something.'"
Is it certain Aydin is going?
I'm with you on Gale, I don't see what people don't see here.
Yes his pace is gone but then Finn never had any and he did great. It's his ability to read a game and as you say control it. When we played Hull Hale had very little opportunity but still created one maybe two tries from nothing.
Sure you're not getting the Gale of five years ago, I accept that, but the rest of the team is fairly young, if they follow Gale and goes where he points them then we will look far more organised. Gale is a string puller and we have missed that. Tim Smith was a lousy defender, didn't take on the line as often as he should and could be lazy but he was what made that team tick because he was surrounded by players who did all that stuff. Take the responsibility off Lino and he will be a real threat, where as now he can be a bit of a headless chicken at times.
Finally, big Dave, what a player he's been for us. Yet on the flip side he's a maverick and has done some pretty lame things through the years that have cost us dearly. If WP is a systems coach then an ageing Fifita is not a great fit, so his exit I get, it's sad but makes sense. He knows as we all should know is that the Smith/Chester team had run it's course and a radically new team needs to emerge.
It's definitely WP's make or break, he's not flush with players but he's not devoid of quality either so if he's any good he has a shot.
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| Let’s hope we aren’t too late to the party and all the agents have got their players settled at clubs whilst we were still sweating on relegation . I’m positive Willie will have some irons in the fire on the recruiting front , and hopefully that will accelerate after a win tonight . On a final note , James Tamou anyone ? According to Phil Gould on his podcast, last game for Tigers n looking for a club overseas
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Let’s hope we aren’t too late to the party and all the agents have got their players settled at clubs whilst we were still sweating on relegation . I’m positive Willie will have some irons in the fire on the recruiting front , and hopefully that will accelerate after a win tonight . On a final note , James Tamou anyone ? According to Phil Gould on his podcast, last game for Tigers n looking for a club overseas'"
Obviously in the twilight of his career but Tamou would still do an amazing job. More so is his leadership and stature.
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| Quote ="vastman"You'll find with Belly that at the merest hint of a player leaving they suddenly gain god like status, From being a fringe player, which he is, Belly and a few others have now elevated him to Gareth Ellis status. It's ridiculous we know that, but thats what they do, when in truth he's just gone OK for his age.
I just about get it with Batch even if I don't think he's a superstar, but Aydin, seriously! I'd prefer we kept him and see how he goes but if he left I wouldn't lose a moments sleep. If he makes it big at HKR then good for him, but I don't see anything in him that makes that a certainty.
If you compare him to Eseh or Shaw he was not at their level at 18-19 and physically never will be. Eseh and Shaw may not have the game time yet but both have far more potential, especially physically and at prop thats the biggy for me.
If we have to let Aydin go to allow those two to stay then to me that looks a calculated risk worth taking.
Let's be right here, a club like Trinity can only really afford to run with two young and inexperienced props, I wish it were otherwise but its a juggling act as ever.
Despite this Aydin will join that non-existent team of future internationals who come back to never ever haunt us in any way whatsoever.
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Pretty much how I see it. I’m expecting big things from Eseh and to a lesser degree Shaw but both seem to have the size and attributes. I watched an academy game a few weeks ago and a prop called Mukhalani looks like another big unit coming through.
As for NRL recruits we need a big enforcer prop. Martin Taupau is another NRL prop with huge experience who may be worth a punt for a year.
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