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| Quote ="supercat"I was told that they went into admin to get the club from mr Khan. The only thing is that the people involved never got the club and it went back into admin so should be a None starter when it comes to excuses.'"
Really?
I was told they went into admin because HMRC were about to issue a Winding Up Order on them that would have seen them liquidate the company to pay their debts, so Mr Green took them into admin to try and protect his "loan".
Again, hardly unforeseeable. Don't pay the taxman and guess what he will do?
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| Quote ="BD"You would think that a club well-versed in admin difficulties would be a little less harsh on a club going through the same thing.'"
I would have thought that too
Thing is MC as dealt with a threat of Admin in the correct manner, by selling untill the debts are paid and thats been tough going, maybe you can see why he's not being harsh.
Bradford Bulls could have done the same and cleared the decks could they not.
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| I've read the article on sky sports news and MC has called this bang on and I think getting it out in the public domain was of huge bearing.
It would be interesting to here the views of the other SL chairmen on this matter also.
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| On Backchat they stated that Wakefield are in serious financial trouble again. Maybe Mr Carter is just doing his job and doing his best to protect them from a relegation that could finish them. Every chairman would do the same.
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| Quote ="woolly07"On Backchat they stated that Wakefield are in serious financial trouble again. Maybe Mr Carter is just doing his job and doing his best to protect them from a relegation that could finish them. Every chairman would do the same.'"
There was nothing of the sort mentioned on Backchat?
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| Quote ="woolly07"On Backchat they stated that Wakefield are in serious financial trouble again. Maybe Mr Carter is just doing his job and doing his best to protect them from a relegation that could finish them. Every chairman would do the same.'"
Didn't see backchat, are they saying we have new serious financial troubles or just stating the obvious regarding our plight over the past six months?
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| Quote ="JINJER"Didn't see backchat, are they saying we have new serious financial troubles or just stating the obvious regarding our plight over the past six months?'"
There was nothing mentioned about any current troubles on backchat, just reference to the clubs previous issues over the last few months whilst they were commenting on the Bradford situation and MC's comments on it.
Phil Clarke made a quote on boots n all if the thats what the poster means, words to the effect of 'we have heard that there is a lot of problems and difficulty at the moment at wakefield'. Although that could just be poor wording referring to previous issues.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"There was nothing mentioned about any current troubles on backchat, just reference to the clubs previous issues over the last few months whilst they were commenting on the Bradford situation and MC's comments on it.
Phil Clarke made a quote on boots n all if the thats what the poster means, words to the effect of 'we have heard that [uthere is a lot of problems and difficulty at the moment at wakefield.[/uAlthough that could just be poor wording referring to previous issues.'"
Maybe so, we have no cash cow and we're having problems capacity wise, so yeah it is a problem, but hopefully nothing new!
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| Quote ="JINJER"Maybe so, we have no cash cow and we're having problems capacity wise, so yeah it is a problem, but hopefully nothing new!'"
I guess a major problem has been a lack of home games so far this season, although with the capacity issue it may well be a blessing in disguise providing we ride it out ok.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"I guess a major problem has been a lack of home games so far this season, although with the capacity issue it may well be a blessing in disguise providing we ride it out ok.'"
I still find it odd that Daddycool doesn't pop up as much as he used to do, at one point he'd have been on here either denying or confirming rumours like this.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I still find it odd that Daddycool doesn't pop up as much as he used to do, at one point he'd have been on here either denying or confirming rumours like this.'"
I suppose that is the down side of him posting on here. As soon as a rumour surfaces which isn't shot down by him then it gathers momentum. Whilst not exaxtly rolling in cash i doubt things are an issue given his comments at the last fans meeting about 3 weeks ago.
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| Isn't MC on holiday at present? Hence no comments
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| Maybe he just has better things to do in general
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| Quote ="PopTart"Maybe he just has better things to do in general'"
It's never stopped him before.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I still find it odd that Daddycool doesn't pop up as much as he used to do, at one point he'd have been on here either denying or confirming rumours like this.'"
Not really, I recall big Di and McNally doing the same and all was fine whilst things were going well but it soon turned nasty.
I think to be fair on MC he really can't discuss Coach/Player performances on here it would put him in an impossible position and undermine his Coach in particular.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Thanks for that. Still not a penalty for administration that another SL club has received.
Disappointing statement from your chairman though, no other chairman has seen fit to comment before the appeal has been heard.'"
the game is a farce from top to bottom, run by morons. one rule for one club one for another. help for london none for say cas. buy bradfords ground dont buy wakefields. its a complete joke make no wonder the crowds are dropping. the whole game is not far off being on its knees.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"the game is a farce from top to bottom, run by morons. one rule for one club one for another. help for london none for say cas. buy bradfords ground dont buy wakefields. its a complete joke make no wonder the crowds are dropping. the whole game is not far off being on its knees.'"
where can we start to rectify it when they are in control and pull the strings, another split and governing body ?
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| Quote ="Trinity 61"Isn't MC on holiday at present? Hence no comments'"
He is in Portugal at the moment, but assume he is back in time for the game tomorrow.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"the game is a farce from top to bottom, run by morons. one rule for one club one for another. help for london none for say cas. buy bradfords ground dont buy wakefields. its a complete joke make no wonder the crowds are dropping. the whole game is not far off being on its knees.'"
It's way past that I fear it's terminal in some cases.
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| Our sport is becoming so utterly contrived both on and off the field of play, that the game of RL has become unnecessary.
The whole issue surrounding the Bulls has been an on going embarrassment for 3 years (since they were awarded a licences showing a "b" against its financial position.
Why should we expect a change of direction, either from The RFL or, the Bradford Club.
They have been taking the mickey for 3 years plus and the governing body of the sport just hasn't got the balls to deal with them properly.
As someone posted earlier, their 6 points should be doubled just for the plain cheek of their appeal.
What more could they do to bring shame to the sport ?
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| Quote ="Theboyem"There was nothing mentioned about any current troubles on backchat, just reference to the clubs previous issues over the last few months whilst they were commenting on the Bradford situation and MC's comments on it.
Phil Clarke made a quote on boots n all if the thats what the poster means, words to the effect of 'we have heard that there is a lot of problems and difficulty at the moment at wakefield'. Although that could just be poor wording referring to previous issues.'"
I didn't see Boots n All, but there was nothing on Backchat. I can't imagine Phil Clarke using poor wording. He's a bright bloke, and if the paraphrase is correct that suggests at new developments. "We have heard" are the relevant parts.
I'm just sick of the annual scrap to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. I still love the game. I'm just a bit worn out by the constant survival mode.
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| Whilst I agree that we should be able to and have to stand in SL on our own merits, this whole sorry saga is typical of the embarrassmnt of the sporting body that we have. The time for appeals is not weeks and weeks later, when we have been looking at league tables and planning team choices, loan deals, spending plans etc based on a situation we thought we had, only to find it may or has changed. This is WRONG! It is just bad sport administration and another reason why I get sicker by the season with the Rugby Football League
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Our sport is becoming so utterly contrived both on and off the field of play, that the game of RL has become unnecessary.
The whole issue surrounding the Bulls has been an on going embarrassment for 3 years (since they were awarded a licences showing a "b" against its financial position.
Why should we expect a change of direction, either from The RFL or, the Bradford Club.
They have been taking the mickey for 3 years plus and the governing body of the sport just hasn't got the balls to deal with them properly.
As someone posted earlier, their 6 points should be doubled just for the plain cheek of their appeal.
What more could they do to bring shame to the sport ?'"
Contrived. A good word for it and I could not agree more. This started with the underhanded onset of SL 1995. It went a stage further with the removal of promotion and relegation and took a really cheat based twist before that when we were grudgingly allowed in SL 99 with less money than the rest. The game needs to retun to its true, honest sport roots that it forgot about when Lindsay et al took it over and prostituted it to Murdock and the Sky paymasters. Ok so I sound old. OK so 'The Product' is good at times...but contrived it is. Well said
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| I wouldn't worry guys. Unless they decide we should have all 6 points back and a further 10 for good luck you are safe.
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"I wouldn't worry guys. Unless they decide we should have all 6 points back and a further 10 for good luck you are safe.'" can't wait for the RFL to cry fix
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