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| Quote ="Asgardian13"The attitude of Wakey fans to JK amazes me. Here is a guy who has NEVER been given a decent player acquisition budget, who kept you up in the last ever relegation battle, and who coached you consistently to mid-table, despite the poverty of his playing squad, and yet it's all his fault that your team can't get themselves together to play against Crusaders. I don't blame you for wanting the best coach possible, but slagging off a guy who never got a decent break from the impoverished Wakey board is beyond me.'"
Hi John.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"The attitude of Wakey fans to JK amazes me. Here is a guy who has NEVER been given a decent player acquisition budget, who kept you up in the last ever relegation battle, and who coached you consistently to mid-table, despite the poverty of his playing squad, and yet it's all his fault that your team can't get themselves together to play against Crusaders. I don't blame you for wanting the best coach possible, but slagging off a guy who never got a decent break from the impoverished Wakey board is beyond me.'"
I think people have been annoyed by Kear over the last 2 years because time and time again the players have underperformed and shown a lack of heart and desire yet he has refused to give the kids a go in the first team.
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| Quote ="Humphrey"Good job kear is leaving cos he'd just get some crap aussie to keep him out of the side'"
Do you have anything positive to say about the signing of more young local talent.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Do you have anything positive to say about the signing of more young local talent.
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i still have plenty of ammo left from Tuesday
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| great news great prospect.
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| Quote ="Humphrey"Good job kear is leaving cos he'd just get some crap aussie to keep him out of the side'"
Very droll...
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"The attitude of Wakey fans to JK amazes me. Here is a guy who has NEVER been given a decent player acquisition budget, who kept you up in the last ever relegation battle, and who coached you consistently to mid-table, despite the poverty of his playing squad, and yet it's all his fault that your team can't get themselves together to play against Crusaders. I don't blame you for wanting the best coach possible, but slagging off a guy who never got a decent break from the impoverished Wakey board is beyond me.'"
You could give Kear a full salary cap and he would just blow it all on his old mates and has beens. He seemed to do OK with the side he inherited its only when he has started to recruit himself the rot set in.
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| I don't know about that, the team he assembled at the start of last year was a pretty good side, he struggled when he had to buy half way through the season and when we had zero money at the start of this season and no player wanted to come and play for us, which tbf most Coaches in the world would struggle under those circumstances.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"The attitude of Wakey fans to JK amazes me. Here is a guy who has NEVER been given a decent player acquisition budget, who kept you up in the last ever relegation battle, and who coached you consistently to mid-table, despite the poverty of his playing squad, and yet it's all his fault that your team can't get themselves together to play against Crusaders. I don't blame you for wanting the best coach possible, but slagging off a guy who never got a decent break from the impoverished Wakey board is beyond me.'"
I think the Keith Senior issue has finally swayed a lot of fans against JK.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"The attitude of Wakey fans to JK amazes me. Here is a guy who has NEVER been given a decent player acquisition budget, who kept you up in the last ever relegation battle, and who coached you consistently to mid-table, despite the poverty of his playing squad, and yet it's all his fault that your team can't get themselves together to play against Crusaders. I don't blame you for wanting the best coach possible, but slagging off a guy who never got a decent break from the impoverished Wakey board is beyond me.'"
I appreciate what John has done for us, keeping us up when it looked impossible, getting us to a Cup Semi-final, getting us into 5th place. However, the game has moved on and being a great man motivator is no longer enough. For the last 18 months we have been seeing the same errors again and again and to me that is something that a good coach should be correcting.
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| rewind 1.5 seasons we are hammering leeds at home to climb the table, Tronk and Brough are ripping up the league. I suggest those slating kear revisit their posts from then.
Since that day events beyond Kears control have forced his hand. We may not like the cards he has played with his limited deck since then but when we consider the context of his tenure at Wakefield and compare this to the outcomes he has achieved I think he deserves significantly more respect than he has been asigned in this thread.
I think he has been the best and most successful coach we have had in 30 years, not a plea for him to stay by any means but just my end of term report on him.
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| Quote ="owiepob"rewind 1.5 seasons we are hammering leeds at home to climb the table, Tronk and Brough are ripping up the league. I suggest those slating kear revisit their posts from then.
Since that day events beyond Kears control have forced his hand. We may not like the cards he has played with his limited deck since then but when we consider the context of his tenure at Wakefield and compare this to the outcomes he has achieved I think he deserves significantly more respect than he has been asigned in this thread.
I think he has been the best and most successful coach we have had in 30 years, not a plea for him to stay by any means but just my end of term report on him.'"
Agreed. his tenure should be evaluated over the entire 5 year period. We would not be here now without him with such a bright future ahead of us. The time is right for him to leave and he is making decisions that puzzle and at times frustrate and annoy me. However I still think overall his time in charge was a successful one. Cheers Norris lad
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| Quote ="jack in the box"You could give Kear a full salary cap and he would just blow it all on his old mates and has beens. He seemed to do OK with the side he inherited its only when he has started to recruit himself the rot set in.'"
oh yes - cos he signed that useless danny brough and glen morrisson and gave richard moore a chance and he turned out terrible too. Come on mate lets have a bit of perspective amongst the zest to slag off one of the best coahes in super league over the past 6 years.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"oh yes - cos he signed that useless danny brough and glen morrisson and gave richard moore a chance and he turned out terrible too. Come on mate lets have a bit of perspective amongst the zest to slag off one of the best coahes in super league over the past 6 years.'"
and Bibey, Wilkes, Martin, even Evans in that first season. All castoffs but great for us. Wasn't his fault we couldn't afford to keep them or that they wanted to do other things in Bibey's case. Even Newton was a great signing at the time. No one was to know where that story was leading.
Without going all Churchillian I'm not sure any coach has done so much with so little.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Do you have anything positive to say about the signing of more young local talent.
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What u on about. All im saying is we've all these good young kids yet kear decides players like Hickey are a better option. Now i'll admit i dont know how good these young lads are but they must be half decent to win the acadamy league.
You got anything else sarcastic to so all mighty mod
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| At this moment, Trout is better than Hickey.
Trout has youth and hopefully a long career in front of him
Hickey has some hard work in front of him.
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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"At this moment, Trout is better than Hickey.
Trout has youth and hopefully a long career in front of him
Hickey has some hard work in front of him.'"
Exactly so instead of wasting wages on Hickey give Trout a proper go. I also thought Gledhill did well when he had a spell last season so hopefully he'll get another go
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| Those wishing to comment on JK's recruitment should know that it was not his decision alone, rather that of the football committee. I have heard many tales of the discussions held regarding many players who have been 'considered' but of course it was a 'consensus' that would result in the green-light - albeit sometimes players were signed 'reluctantly' to some. They also had a kind of 'veto' in the case that they were dead set against a player.
The point is, some of JK's ideas didn't go through and some of the players signed were not necessarily at the choice of him - including BJ, which is why he let him go when he had the chance! This is not to say that he didn't get many more right!
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| Quote ="TRB"Those wishing to comment on JK's recruitment should know that it was not his decision alone, rather that of the football committee. I have heard many tales of the discussions held regarding many players who have been 'considered' but of course it was a 'consensus' that would result in the green-light - albeit sometimes players were signed 'reluctantly' to some. They also had a kind of 'veto' in the case that they were dead set against a player.
The point is, some of JK's ideas didn't go through and some of the players signed were not necessarily at the choice of him - including BJ, which is why he let him go when he had the chance! This is not to say that he didn't get many more right!'"
Am, I right in thinking that it was only the coaching staff and scouts who actually recommended players?
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| Quote ="vastman"Am, I right in thinking that it was only the coaching staff and scouts who actually recommended players?'"
No - of course not! Many of them were suggestions from Ted - deals to be done and all that!
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| Quote ="TRB"No - of course not! Many of them were suggestions from Ted - deals to be done and all that!
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Wasn't Austin Buchannan a Ted suggestion - a never to be forgotten suggestion
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| Quote ="vastman"Wasn't Austin Buchannan a Ted suggestion - a never to be forgotten suggestion
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I think that one might be true!
No, not our finest signing!
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| Quote ="Humphrey"What u on about.[u All im saying is we've all these good young kids yet kear decides players like Hickey are a better option.[/u Now i'll admit i dont know how good these young lads are but they must be half decent to win the acadamy league.
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Yes humprey but its a good news thread, its about signing up a young player for the future, we have many Kear threads for people to have a say on.
Just read this thread and tell me if its still a new signing good news thread.
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| Quote ="owiepob"rewind 1.5 seasons we are hammering leeds at home to climb the table, Tronk and Brough are ripping up the league. I suggest those slating kear revisit their posts from then.
Since that day events beyond Kears control have forced his hand. We may not like the cards he has played with his limited deck since then but when we consider the context of his tenure at Wakefield and compare this to the outcomes he has achieved I think he deserves significantly more respect than he has been asigned in this thread.
I think he has been the best and most successful coach we have had in 30 years, not a plea for him to stay by any means but just my end of term report on him.'"
Well said - i couldnt agree more
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