I think it’s unfair for people to target Grix, there were a number of occasions when certain players made the wrong decisions, which cost us dear.

For me though, the coaching staff should take the ultimate responsibility for Saturday’s defeat. I felt the initial line up was incorrect and Martin should have played at S.O. But from early on in the piece it was glaringly obvious we were getting skinned down the left side, yet it wasn’t until the wingers were swapped around did it improve, but by then, much of the damaged had been done.

It’s a shame the game was on TV really, because, without the Video ref, we would have probably been allowed two of the tries. I thought the ref had a decent game, but, if teams can be warned for constant messing about at the ruck, shouldn’t he have warned Bradford for the persistent ball stealing in the second half?

Carful that the golden boy you are having a go at

hes right though he didnt look interested 1st half

Grix clearly didn't have a great game, but it certainly isn't his fault that JK picked him to play in a position he clearly isn't comfortable with.

The fact that we didn't have 2 genuine three-quarters on our left hand side in the first half was our biggest problem and the blame for that needs to be paced firmly with JK.

I'm NOT saying I want rid of JK - far from it, but, I do think he made a mistake in his selection for the team on Saturday - he had Gleeson in the 19 and should have played him. That would have given us the option of playing Grix at SO with Obst interchanging with Drew at hooker.

Personally, I think that would have given us a more balanced side that would probably have been able to deliver the result we deserved for what I felt was the more dominant side overall.

That is exactly the problem years ago, I was involved in a pre season match at Mount Pleasant against Batley for Halifax. I was asked to play on the wing by Steve Nash. I was like Grix primarily a stand off, full back, centre or loose forward. I was found wanting at half a dozen times in the first half, so I know how the lad feels. Playing on the wing is a specialist position, you either are a winger or you are not. I am sorry to say it Grix isn't, but before the boo boys start thinking I agree with them, ask yourselves one question if not Grix then who do you play there.

JK needs to sit down and decide where Grix plays because he ain't a utilty back. It isn't doing anyone any good shoving him here there or anywhere.

gleeson looks better on the wing than in the centre or jd could go on the wing and still take as much ball in as he does.weve too many halves on the field at once and theyve got to defend somewhere, you could see that we wernt getting in position when they were going to go wide but its acollective thing youve got to trust your inside man.

good point, grix is getting a lot of hammer but to be honest some of the blame lies squarely with the centres inside him, they have been diving in all over the place leaving him with 2 on 1.

same happpened to blanch too

Scott is struggling for form at the moment, he has been disappointing since returning from injury, although for a lot of Bradford's tries, he was not the only culprit for allowing Sykes way too much room. Come on Grixy, we know what you're capable of, please prove it against the pies next week.

I thought Grix was going to get some stick but the problem as I saw it was the sliding defence. Yes most of the time Bradford had two players outside Grix and we looked paper thin down that side but if Grix had stayed on the touchline then you could have driven a bus down the inside of him. Poor bloke he can not win whatever he does if the team does not slide out.

sorry for shouting but GRIX IS NOT A WINGER !! He doesnt have the pace or positional sense to play there... Get him at loose forward or best not play him to be honest... He needs to get playing in his correct position... Bradford ripped the poor lad to pieces !!

Now lets take stock of what you have said here because i think im about to commit blasphemy on this board and break one of RLFans 10 commandments.

Would it be fair to say John Kear is at fault for playing him out of position? Lets be honest Grix stands up and takes the shirt but at Hull the game changed when kear moved things about. The problem is though who considering the current injury situation does kear pick above Grix????? .


We need to recover from the current injury crisis i think before we can start criticize

This is not a panic statement but I feel we need to dip pur toe into the loan market for a month

worked with halley

Yep - but we aint got anybody else fit to be fair.

However, it is the defensive pattern that we have got well wrong. Grix was in the right position in relation to his inside man, yet on occassion had 2 men outside him - that is not his fault.

We were clearly found out against Wigan on one wing and against Bradford on the other - it is the pattern of play that we are not executing well enough - i.e. no one is reading what the opposition are doing - so when they slip the full-back + one other into the right side attack, we don't adjust, result - TRY.

Very very poor!

What about the week before? There seems to be some confusion about if Murphy was injured or dropped to the A team - did we ever clear this one up?

Grix was always on a loser. He was never going to beat his oppposite winger for pace and he was never going to win in a jump for a high ball. I don't remember a defensive howler by him, I just remember that he was being out-paced. If a winger gets outnumbered, the problem is usually further in, and I don't think you can actually blame the winger.

For me, Bradford just played better on the day. Their defence was superb in the second half, and they played with some zip in the first. I'm just hoping that we take the second half form into the weekend, although I suspect that Wigan will hit a purple patch now.

I watched the game at 12.30 this morning and i must agree Slugger. The problem was eminating from the inside and Bradford threw alot of numbers that side from the off, they obviously targeted that side and it took us a while to get sorted. Grixy unfortuately was the one on the end of it. Bradford played well agreed.
Overall we werent all that bad, we had decisions go against us and Fergies injury didnt help our subs rotation. We could do with Stosic coming back, he helps lay a good platform

I feel that our short kicking game should be more along the ground rather than chips over the top which more times than not are giving our opponents 20 metes tap restarts far to easily. Most of our players really put in on Saturday the stats show that.

good luck against Wigan i am sure i will hear your voices singing out loud like i always do win or lose.

Cheers Con

Well im not sure on his injury situation but i think Gleeson would do better defensively there and what about given George a chance now tho hes gonna end up a centre i recogn... Its time to give Winterstein a chance too and get Rooney on the bench - where a bit predictable now - a bit of freshness wont do any harm and after all, its not as if leaving this current side as it is has done any better is it in the last 2 games !! I also think Grix is a talent and tries his socks off but we need to get him in the pk...

I agree Grix hasnt been at his best and needs to find the same form he showed for ireland and the begging of this year, if we want to stay cometitive in the top 6 we need 2 top class wingers (Blanchy is one but for this year)peterson didnt seem to offer much!!

From his first game in how many months


He did well I thought and so did the majority of others otherwise we would have had a 5 page thread about him saying he's a waste of space.

I dont think he's been given enough time. Let him have an uninterupted amount of games free from injury before we judge.

He had a great world cup for Ireland and really stood up and showed some maturity,

Must say that if we can get that back into his game and find his ideal position on the pitch then we could be looking at a really good prospect for the future.

Hopefully see Scott with a bit more confidence in his game, and have no doubt JK will do all he can to try and get the confidence Scott needs.

Thats exactly what he said tonight

Haha,

That is seriously a coincidence,

Weird some things.

Murphy was originally dropped to the first team and was very suprised by this but whilst playing in the reserve team game the first week he was dropped he broke his arm