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| Quote ="bazzo44"super league half back'"
Who's to say he wouldn't do a better job than some of the unheard of halves from down under that have been suggested.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Who's to say he wouldn't do a better job than some of the unheard of halves from down under that have been suggested.'"
Bingo - known quantity behind what looks a good pack - will go well.
Also who are these SL SH's scrambling to join us - I mean there are loads of them in SL.
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| Quote ="vastman"Really
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my opinion thats all
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| Twitter Dm from Liam himself?
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| Quote ="bazzo44"my opinion thats all'"
Who are these SL players - Im not doubting that Finn is borderline SL quality it's the alternatives I' struggling with.
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| My doubts about Liam Finn is apart from his goal kicking, is that he doesn't appear to have been crucifying teams when playing for Fev, he never seems a stand out to me.
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| Quote ="vastman"Who are these SL players - Im not doubting that Finn is borderline SL quality it's the alternatives I' struggling with.'"
To be honest Vasty i have not heard a thing about a half back, to me they are the hardest to replace, not many about, we will have to wait and see
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| Quote ="vastman"Bingo - known quantity behind what looks a good pack - will go well.
Also who are these SL SH's scrambling to join us - I mean there are loads of them in SL.'"
Sorry - but IMO he's slow, has an average passing game and a reasonable kicking game.
Would be disappointed if true - I think his day has passed!
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| Quote ="TRB"Sorry - but IMO he's slow, has an average passing game and a reasonable kicking game.
Would be disappointed if true - I think his day has passed!'"
I think I said all that myself, so yes I'm fully aware of his limitations.
However next year is not about flowing RL it's about grinding results out - not just for us but most teams.
For that you need a strong pack (which we have) and experience in the halves.
Moving a pack around doesn't require speed but does require an adequate passing game and the ability to to produce opportunities from kicks in what may be a lot of tight games.
If after half a season we are looking good then maybe we could look around for a bit more star quality.
As match winners neither Sykes or Finn make the grade but as a good link they are ok.
Finally "but IMO he's slow, has an average passing game and a reasonable kicking game…" could if you were being harsh describe Tim Smith. His passing was occasionally well above average but just as often it was diabolical, he was cart horse slow and his kicking game was adequate.
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| Quote ="vastman"I think I said all that myself, so yes I'm fully aware of his limitations.
However next year is not about flowing RL it's about grinding results out - not just for us but most teams.
For that you need a strong pack (which we have) and experience in the halves.
Moving a pack around doesn't require speed but does require an adequate passing game and the ability to to produce opportunities from kicks in what may be a lot of tight games.
If after half a season we are looking good then maybe we could look around for a bit more star quality.
As match winners neither Sykes or Finn make the grade but as a good link they are ok.
Finally "but IMO he's slow, has an average passing game and a reasonable kicking game…" could if you were being harsh describe Tim Smith. His passing was occasionally well above average but just as often it was diabolical, he was cart horse slow and his kicking game was adequate.
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I like the last bit - but Tim Smith had an exceptional pass - when he wanted it - and that is where his problems start and end for me. Finn would have something to prove, but we'd be mullered with him and Sykes at HB as there would be no pace at all.
I watched Finn closely in the RLWC and saw nothing at all from him. I know we're not in a position to be picky, but I honestly think we can do better and I would back our club and their connections to come up trumps - they have so far with the signings we have made!
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| Quote ="TRB"I like the last bit - but Tim Smith had an exceptional pass - when he wanted it - and that is where his problems start and end for me. Finn would have something to prove, but we'd be mullered with him and Sykes at HB as there would be no pace at all.
I watched Finn closely in the RLWC and saw nothing at all from him. I know we're not in a position to be picky, but I honestly think we can do better and I would back our club and their connections to come up trumps - they have so far with the signings we have made!
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Fully agree with this. We need some younger quicker legs alongside Sykes and Finn is not that man. Add to that he really isn't that good anyway, hence why Fev have signed Gareth Moore, then I would be disappointed if we went down that route.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Fully agree with this. We need some younger quicker legs alongside Sykes and Finn is not that man. Add to that he really isn't that good anyway, hence why Fev have signed Gareth Moore, then I would be disappointed if we went down that route.'"
I bow to the expert who knows more than all the rest of us put together - seriously I do.
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| Quote ="TRB"I like the last bit - but Tim Smith had an exceptional pass - when he wanted it - and that is where his problems start and end for me. Finn would have something to prove, but we'd be mullered with him and Sykes at HB as there would be no pace at all.
I watched Finn closely in the RLWC and saw nothing at all from him. I know we're not in a position to be picky, but I honestly think we can do better and I would back our club and their connections to come up trumps - they have so far with the signings we have made!
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Phil I get your point I really do. However we have limited resources and the game has not changed that much - packs win games.
Not sure why we'd be mullered, as I said with a strong pack that tackles well pace is not the be all and end all. Well just have to get used to slogging it out and winning close games.
To me Agar's signings have that logic written all over them - and IMHO he's absolutely right.
I'll wager you a tenner that if we sign Finn he'll be a success (in relative terms)
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| Quote ="vastman"Phil I get your point I really do. However we have limited resources and the game has not changed that much - packs win games.
Not sure why we'd be mullered, as I said with a strong pack that tackles well pace is not the be all and end all. Well just have to get used to slogging it out and winning close games.
To me Agar's signings have that logic written all over them - and IMHO he's absolutely right.
I'll wager you a tenner that if we sign Finn he'll be a success (in relative terms)
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I'd be happy to take you up on that - as I couldn't lose really and you may even have to join me for a pint to celebrate!
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| Quote ="TRB"I'd be happy to take you up on that - as I couldn't lose really and you may even have to join me for a pint to celebrate!
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You'll lose but I'll take the pint.
I will PM you as regards getting in touch. However I warn you I don't have access to free printing at the moment (though that may change next year) so I may not be able to help you with much.
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| Finn has his limitations, but he's a known quailty, he offers a decent kicking game and plenty of experience. Can't be costing a fortune, so on paper worth having around, ie. another option. Hopefully he'll be just that an option and we'll be signing of another half back as well. Maybe the oppertunity to take a risk on someone else? Could Wildie be cover for hooker or Scrum half? Sykes and Finn as the main option can't be the only option.
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Tim Smith is one of the best passers of the ball in the game IMHO but couldn't tackle and could have taken the line on more often.
Liam Finn if signed could be looked at as a back up for scrum half/hooker to Wildie and Mcshane? With Wildie playing at 7? On Fev website he is referred to as a hooker.
www.featherstonerovers.net/team_ ... php?id=628
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Tim Smith is one of the best passers of the ball in the game IMHO but couldn't tackle and could have taken the line on more often.
Liam Finn if signed could be looked at as a back up for scrum half/hooker to Wildie and Mcshane? With Wildie playing at 7? On Fev website he is referred to as a hooker.
www.featherstonerovers.net/team_ ... php?id=628
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| Quote ="vastman"I bow to the expert who knows more than all the rest of us put together - seriously I do.'"
to be honest... Its only you who I see arguing against him.
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| Quote ="Old Blighty"to be honest... Its only you who I see arguing against him.'"
As per usual. It's quite sad actually and symptomatic why this forum is going down the pan. No skin off my nose, there's more to life. I'll be giving the place a wide berth from now on, the idiot can take over the asylum again.
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| Still no news regarding Kay other than he's rejected a contract offer. Some have suggested he's signed for Leigh yet they have not announced it. What ever he, or his agent, was wanting theres a decent chance it will be comparable or even less than what the alternatives are likely to want, particularly if they're coming over from Australia
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| Quote ="Theboyem"As per usual. It's quite sad actually and symptomatic why this forum is going down the pan. No skin off my nose, there's more to life. I'll be giving the place a wide berth from now on, the idiot can take over the asylum again.'"
The forum is going down the pan because one person disagreed with you?
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| Quote ="bren2k"The forum is going down the pan because one person disagreed with you?'"
It is funny how the forum world allows the anonymous and petulant child in all of us to come out.
to be fair i think it is a great release from the pressures of life and is far less damaging than kicking the dog or arguing with your partner.
and the anonimity allows you not to take it personally ... I am going to go away now and read all about gestalt......
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| IMO the forum has been good recently with lots of optimism and positivity. Glad agent XIII isn't here any more and no negativity in every post by a couple of others. Long may it continue
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| Quote ="bren2k"The forum is going down the pan because one person disagreed with you?'"
Nope but it's time to go.
Merry christmas, lets hope it's a happy new year.
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| Quote ="vastman"I bow to the expert who knows more than all the rest of us put together - seriously I do.'"
The lad expressed his opinion on a potential signing and what the team needs. He never forced it down anyone's neck as been fact. I do think this reply was ott.
On finn I would see no harm in him signing as backup for pivot positions. I don't have him down as key player material but would be more than happy if he proves me wrong.
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