I have to agree with this post we do seem to lack leaders in the team, I remember CC in a interview last year saying he thought we were a very quiet team lacked leaders and he would change that, well up to now I have not seen any sign of change in that department so I would say this is a big challenge for CC and JK TO put right.

Agree 100 % but who would you make captain? Ive always said kirmonds no leader.

Not sure mate it's a tough one isn't it, if Finn had still been getting in the team as a starter I would have said him but that boat has sailed for now, maybe England and kirmond as joint captain's.

We were talking about England on the way home last night, thought he had a quiet game and looked to have lost weight , but the quiet game might have been the effects of the injury he got in the Hull game. As for leader we need someone like broughy but not broughy !

This is the thing, I am guessing we are going to have to pick from what we have as unless we end up with a big injury list I don't see any more new players coming in, leaders are usually in demand from other teams also and don't usually come cheap.

We just need a top old head! Been there done it got the tee shirt to give the team a bollocking when needed like every missed tackle. I know i'l get crap for this but remember when we had bobby Goulding just look how he gee'd up the team , we need that type of captain.

Ok then, who do you think we could sign at the moment who would not want big wages or a transfer fee, I'm not sure there is anyone available, I would like to see us get Delaney from Leeds for the rest of the season I think he would fit the bill.

Ooh thats a funny one , we've had alot of Leeds cast offs who have come for one last payday! Delaney would not be the answer, what about someone for next season Paul Gallen from Cronulla?

lol sorry I was trying to be serious about someone we could actually sign,. I had an idea Delaney would get that kind of response but he is a 100% player and would lead through his actions.

Think the problem with Delaney is he struggles to stay on the field for any length of time, unfortunately his injuries have taken their toll.

Going back to a leader.....even though we as fans can't pick an obvious candidate, there must be some-one in training etc that the coaches can see has the qualities . Perhaps the other players aren't so vocal during a game because they are waiting for the Captain to take charge.

Yeh lol just see how many games he plays for Leeds not Featherstone this season.
Bet he's not in this country next year.

I hope Mitch Allgood has recovered from his concussion and can make his SL debut in the next match. At 27 years old and an experienced tough ex-NRL prop he could be the leader on the field the team is looking for?

You don't choose a leader, they emerge naturally during the games and I don't see anyone of that mindset. The hate of losing, pure desire to win , picking up team mates and generally directing the team. Couple that with a rugby brain and there you have it!

He's broke his finger! Probably be out a few weeks!

Danny Brough it is then!

Grix is a leader and possibly the most obvious candidate. Trouble is personally moving forward i'd like to aee Jowitt at fullback and i don't see where else he would fit in as a first choice.

Take your point Smew but we don't have the natural leader you describe but, there has to be some-one more assertive/vocal than our present Captain. You won't like this but the only player I see constantly talking/shouting is Miller..,

Max is years behind grix

We currently have on our books the ex-captain of a team who had one of the lowest value squads yet still made the top 4 in the championship

And if he is behind him in the pecking order for most of the duration of Grix's 2 year contract then then won't be with us for long. We have to back him and he has to play sooner rather than later or we will lose him.

When he is fit and playing every week, he may become the leader that the team needs.
He's certainly a vocal player, something which Kirmond never has been.

That's my fear also Sacred.

One thing I have noticed with Grix during the warm ups is that when the tackle shields come out he doesnt do the tackling he is walking behind them shouting orders to the defenders. I dont recall Max, or other full backs we have had over the past few years do this. It could be my 40 something year old memory playing up so if Im wrong forgive me.

I didnt think I'd say this 3 months ago but based upon the above Grix could be the man. But like others have said this could hinder Max's progress.

Yes, I have also thought Miller as well as Ashurst. I have noticed when defending, Sio is also vocal but doesnt do 80 minutes

Max will learn off Grix and will get his chance when Grix picks up a knock (which is inevitable) he is at the back end of his career and highly unlikely to play all the games. When Max gets his chance he'll have to prove himself and then its his spot to lose..