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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"I think its going to be a very competitive season both at the top and the bottom. Although strong favourites I don't think Saints and Catalans will have it all their own way in the league as Powell will get Warrington firing, Wigan can not have such a nightmare with injuries again, if the new Leeds halfbacks turn it on , if a massive Hull team can be consistent, if Cas respond to their new coach, if the Hudds players respect Watson and don't spit their dummies out again. Those eight teams will be the bookies favourites for top 8 finishes.
Will Hull KR be able to replicate their form from last season, will Trinity continue their end of season Willie Poaching performances, will Salford's new signings gel, will enthusiasm, determination and no little skill enable Toulouse to surprise a few. I think that the bookies will have KR, Salford, Trinity and Toulouse as the bottom four. No surprise with that and looking at squads on paper there is no real argument..... but there is always a side that underperforms last season the much fancied Huddersfield and there is always a side that surprises, last season it was Hull KR.
I like what Willie is doing, new fitness people, new assistants, freshen things up for the players, atmosphere in the club seems great. If we are as fit as we can be, determined, lucky with injuries then maybe its us that will surprise a few.'"
Nice to see you posting properly
I agree with all of that but you and I know that luck with injuries is critical for us if we are to do well this season.
Whatever people think about CC, when he started he was a lucky coach, then from 2019 he wasn't and it ended his Trinity career, Sure he could have done better, especially his signings and some of his team selections but basically he struggled with injuries to key players and could never gain consistency,
I actually think WP is a stronger character than CC and would cope better with adversity but what's just my opinion, he will still need luck, all great coaches are lucky to a degree.
Like most teams, our first 19 are very good, in fact in our case if they are injury-free and in good form our first 19 is one of the best outside the 'big' sides.
I don't believe in karma so no guarantees but a bit of luck for Trinity may be due, fingers crossed.
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| According to an MC statement 6 out of a squad of 33 have refused the vaccine. However the source might not be correct as it’s from a source that doesn’t have a good reputation and considered to be click bait by a lot.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"INOUTI don't think we have the same rules do we? I'm not 100% sure.'"
Neither am I tbh, that's why I asked.
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Quote ="chissitt"Neither am I tbh, that's why I asked.'"
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-e ... vaccinated
If I'm reading that right, anyone unvaccinated will need to isolate for 10 days upon arrival in the UK, however you can pay for private PCR test to release after 5 days. I can't see either Fench team coming 6 days before the game every other week, so they could be in the same position coming here as we are going there. The more players vaccinated the stronger sides will be.
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-e ... vaccinated
If I'm reading that right, anyone unvaccinated will need to isolate for 10 days upon arrival in the UK, however you can pay for private PCR test to release after 5 days. I can't see either Fench team coming 6 days before the game every other week, so they could be in the same position coming here as we are going there. The more players vaccinated the stronger sides will be.
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| It seems that Covid is a determined foe
this is a mightily complicated situation, in the long term a personal decision to vaccinate or not, might put your team mates careers and or livelihoods at stake come season end! Or mean the difference between watching a top flight team or a second division team in future years for your fans!
Health, welfare, protection of the vulnerable, freedom of movement, us over me... personal choice, personal freedoms, religious convictions, me over us.
Very complicated.
I’m double vaccinated and will booster as soon as it’s my turn, my decision based on the vulnerability of my wife who is still in recovery from neuro surgery... no brainer, no second thought!
But I do understand that others might have different influences, different priorities!
Very complicated!
I want trinity to win every game and my day to day peace of mind and enjoyment of life is affected by this... how do I feel about players deliberately excluding themselves from doing their jobs (whatever the justification) ... I don’t know
It’s very complicated
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Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-england-from-another-country-during-coronavirus-covid-19#check-if-you-qualify-as-fully-vaccinated
If I'm reading that right, anyone unvaccinated will need to isolate for 10 days upon arrival in the UK, however you can pay for private PCR test to release after 5 days. I can't see either Fench team coming 6 days before the game every other week, so they could be in the same position coming here as we are going there. The more players vaccinated the stronger sides will be.'"
There are exemptions for sportsmen coming here providing they remain "within the footprint of the event'.
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If I'm reading that right, anyone unvaccinated will need to isolate for 10 days upon arrival in the UK, however you can pay for private PCR test to release after 5 days. I can't see either Fench team coming 6 days before the game every other week, so they could be in the same position coming here as we are going there. The more players vaccinated the stronger sides will be.'"
There are exemptions for sportsmen coming here providing they remain "within the footprint of the event'.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ompetition
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| Yep...posted it a couple of days ago on the "Catalan Away" thread... do keep up at the back
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| Quote ="BOJ042"I just went through all the squads posted on super league site (yes vasty i have internet here in Sydney ) and unless something goes horribly wrong it has to be Toulouse for relegation closely followed by Salford.
How tough do you think Toulouse will be at home ,thought that might be a factor for them but they have not got a super league squad .
Obviously though like very year injuries will pay a part - for us i think we have a very vey tough draw to start with and could be looking up rather thank down quickly if we cant sneak a few wins early ,'"
Can’t see Salford fighting relegation myself dark horses for the play off spots
Trinity 11th Toulouse 12th is my bet
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"Can’t see Salford fighting relegation myself dark horses for the play off spots
Trinity 11th Toulouse 12th is my bet'"
Not a chance, a few injuries and they are done. Don’t get the Salford love In at all, your looking at reputations, very old reputations in some cases.
We will see.
Can I ask, why do you bother following Trinity it must torment you, you predict relegation every year regardless, where is the joy?
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| The reason why fans think we will be fighting relegation is ,that is what we have been doing for the last few year .All we can do is get to Bell Vew and support the team
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| To be honest I’m quite pleased to see somewhat more low key thoughts on the season than last year.
There seemed to be a lot of talk of playoffs this time last year and I think that added to the disappointment of the season when it was clear those expectations were not going to be met.
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| Quote ="jonh"To be honest I’m quite pleased to see somewhat more low key thoughts on the season than last year.
There seemed to be a lot of talk of playoffs this time last year and I think that added to the disappointment of the season when it was clear those expectations were not going to be met.'"
I get your point though I can’t remember many people predicting play off last year, you must know some real optimists..
My point is that as a fan of all but a few clubs you don’t start the season expecting to win anything, I accept that.
But equally why would you automatically assume the worst? Yes we’ve struggled the last few years but any fair minded person would accept that we’ve had some real bad luck, most notably with injuries.
FWIW I think the fairest prediction imo is that with a bit of luck we have the potential to be one of the more competitive teams outside the top four.
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| Quote ="vastman"I get your point though I can’t remember many people predicting play off last year, you must know some real optimists..
My point is that as a fan of all but a few clubs you don’t start the season expecting to win anything, I accept that.
But equally why would you automatically assume the worst? Yes we’ve struggled the last few years but any fair minded person would accept that we’ve had some real bad luck, most notably with injuries.
FWIW I think the fairest prediction imo is that with a bit of luck we have the potential to be one of the more competitive teams outside the top four.'"
I’m fairly sure there was a high level of optimism on here but may be wrong.
I think the top 5 will be covered by a smaller points spread than the last few years.
I’m hopeful we can be in the mid table group behind that eg 6th-9th. I’m hoping we don’t get drawn in to the bottom 3 but if we get 10th I will still be happy.
For me with all the other stuff going on in regards the stadium if we can confirm survival early we have a real opportunity to recruit well and then build the team around some very strong foundations.
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| I always look for a player in the new signings that I think can put extra bums on seats.We have not signed one, so like most fans we hope for the best but know we will be out of the top 8 till we get more cash coming in to the ground .Let's hope the new Stadium starts that
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| Quote ="alegend"I always look for a player in the new signings that I think can put extra bums on seats.We have not signed one, so like most fans we hope for the best but know we will be out of the top 8 till we get more cash coming in to the ground .Let's hope the new Stadium starts that'"
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| Quote ="alegend"I always look for a player in the new signings that I think can put extra bums on seats.We have not signed one, so like most fans we hope for the best but know we will be out of the top 8 till we get more cash coming in to the ground .Let's hope the new Stadium starts that'"
You don’t think Hood is better than the Woods
You don’t think Lineham is a class winger?
You don’t think Gaskell is a versatile player?
Mate you clearly don’t look very hard.
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| Johnstone, Fifita, Tanginoa, they're our draw cards. Yes the signings are not anyone to get excited about, but hopefully they will add to the team in a positive way. When/if we starts selling more than 1000/2000 season tickets, we might start looking at signings that could out bums on seats. Until then it's making the most of what we have.
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| Quote ="vastman"You don’t think Hood is better than the Woods
You don’t think Lineham is a class winger?
You don’t think Gaskell is a versatile player?
Mate you clearly don’t look very hard.'"
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| Too many big name signing have turned out to be disappointments over the years ,and some that have come under the radar have been fans favourites . A side that is competitive and shows commitment and effort will pick up more wins than losses IMO and that in itself will bring folk in . Listening to poaching and his vision for the club fulls me with confidence ,and has more charisma and vision in his little finger than Chester had ,who was about as inspiring as an undertaker in his interviews,and surely that must have rubbed off on the players when things got tough .Different team/coach/mindset,what’s not to like ,bring it on .
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Im with you it is what it is although think players released would offer more than some signed and the squad is a little unbalanced but we have a budget and would rather stay in that than the club go bust for me its about getting through this season and will happily take 10th right now then hopefully the ground will take shape and with the pitch we can start improving our income
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Too many big name signing have turned out to be disappointments over the years ,and some that have come under the radar have been fans favourites . A side that is competitive and shows commitment and effort will pick up more wins than losses IMO and that in itself will bring folk in . Listening to poaching and his vision for the club fulls me with confidence ,and has more charisma and vision in his little finger than Chester had ,who was about as inspiring as an undertaker in his interviews,and surely that must have rubbed off on the players when things got tough .Different team/coach/mindset,what’s not to like ,bring it on .'"
To many fans go by reputation, this is probably a good guide if you are Saints. However, you have to ask why a player with a big reputation has ended up at Trinity, especially overseas players.
There is simply no logic as to why a player who still has it would choose us. We have no money, no obvious chance of sucess and facilities at present remain poor.
True we used to pick up the odd star but NRL players of any known quality joining SL these days are so rare that even Leeds and Wigan etc struggle.
Trinity has some quality but what we really need is players who are hungry, most of our signings fall into that category with the possible exception of Gaskell though even he has underachieved so far in his career relative to other players from that generation.
Signings are never about reputation or selling ST's they are about players who fit and only the coach knows that, despite what we all think on here at times.
Gaskell and Lineham the most high profile of our signings may be duds but they may not be and if the latter is the case we've signed two cracking players. Best to judge after 10m games or more imho.
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