apologies, the way i had read your post i thought you were refering to sundays game

Storm in a tea cup if you ask me.

You really are silly at times - grow up. ...both of you.

I have to say, if you did that to me, I'd be offended too.
You went out of your way to say something that was at best disrespectful to him. Why would you expect him to accept it.
And you chose the audience not him.

I would not wast my breath on Griffin hes history

Not sure why people have a problem with what inside man did. Clearly he felt let down by Griffin, and he did what some people seem to demand in saying it to his face.

Not sure what was to be gained for anyone involved though.

He chose the audience when he elected to become a professional sportsman.

And Griffin felt the same about him, I love the way some fans think they can say what the hell they want - well they can't - it's playground from both of them.

Fans can say what the hell they want, so long as it's not litigious. I don't think you'll find anyone saying that it wasn't childish on both their parts though. As fans we pay our money, and just as we have the right to cheer we surely have the right to moan.

Recent history at Wakefield also suggest that fans should scrutinise decisions that are taken by the club at every stage, we've had 30 odd years of lurching from one avoidable disaster to the next. However I hope that people can challenge and question with manners and dignity.

Fans can say what they want

pure comedy gold, this is the 21st century and if you have not noticed nobody can say what they want anymore - not even RL fans, come off it.

You can moan all you like if that's what floats your boat.

But what you are attempting to defend by masking it as moaning is in fact abuse.

If we are going to get all "litigious" about it then Griffin is first and foremost a citizen of the UK and subject to it's laws. In this country you cannot abuse people with impunity, not even at RL match - BV is not Nania and the real world very much holds sway. Although Inside mans comments were more childish than abusive that is not always the case and in the past Griffin has taken some horrendous and absolutely uncalled for ABUSE end of. Usually from people who have achieved nothing like he has and have probably given far less to WTRLFC. That being the case I honestly can't understand why people like you seem so shocked he reacts and then indulge in the most one sided criticism you can imagine.

I can't make folk like Griffin, I don't know if I like him myself because like 99% on here I've never met him. But what I do know is no RL player deserves what he gets, only criminals should get that level of abuse.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, many of the anti Griffin posters on here should know better and be ashamed of their past actions. I'm ashamed as a Wakey fan of what he has endured from what is basically bullying from a mob.

Let it go and let the lad get on with his life.

In this scenario Inside Man was saying he responded badly in front of kids....but he spoke to him infront of them... so chose the audience.

Very well said Vasty

And he chose to use foul language in front of them, I did not abuse him, i said good riddance, im sure he felt the same about leaving, i said my piece and i am quite happy to receive some back but not in the manner in which he did this. This latest incident only shows what type of character he has.

There's nothing like a Nigel Farage-esq over-reaction is there?

I don't condone abuse, I do however think inside man had the right to express his feelings. Like you I don't know Griffin, but his actions both on and near the rugby field in and out of Wakefield Trinity colours do nothing to counter my instinct that I wouldn't like him should we meet.

I do take your point though, and it's a very good one, and it should be applied to Wakefield Trinity players past and present and just as some may see it as harsh that people dislike Griffin, we should also exercise caution when canonising our on-field heroes. Most of them are ordinary blokes, with the same kind of flaws that the rest of us have.

I don't disagree that he showed himself up but surely you can see that saying good ridence to someone is quite insulting, especially in front of other people. No one would just smile and walk away.

Come off it, it's hardly pistols at dawn stuff! If that was the worst I've had thrown at me in life I'd be a very happy guy!

If you say so, personally I thought I was just explaining common courtesy and the fact that you reap what you so - believe me I know.

Doesn't make right though - I know you through SWAG though I can't claim to know you like a brother but I've rarely met a more fair minded and level headed individual. That said I don't think you'd be too happy under the circumstances, because lets be fair he's been left years and this has remained as sustained abuse. Yes I get the point that this one wasn't much and were it in isolation I'd expect Griffin to rise above it, but it's not sadly. He snapped and I'm not sure I blame him.

Sorry but that's how I see the whole Griffin saga and I just wish we'd move on as he was no great loss anyway, all very sad

The whole Griffin saga I agree with you 100%! I was just commenting on pop tarts comment regarding saying good riddance is quite insulting. Being fat and ginger I've had much worse thrown at me, even comedians have fun with me!

so I am to take it vasty that you've never made fun of us inbreds over the common????

I will ahve you know I am a citizen in the UK, and as such..... YAWWWWWNNNN

But on the whole that's a two way thing.

nononono Mr C ....a man of that tenure would rise above it, considering the respect for my UK citizenship



Ahh I'm only messing.

Though I do think it's been blown out of proportion on all parts - depending how hard he threw the bottle.

Am I to assume the "bellend" part was ficticious? ....if so this makes me sad.

Lets move on from Big,fat, ugly tea pot it getting boring now like vastman, he as been left years...

and gooooood riddance.

...sorry had to be done lol