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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"So it's John Kear's fault that Richard Agar has struggled despite having the players he has, and there being another coach inbetween? Are you Lupset_Airport?'"
Ouch!
Too harsh!
Take that back immediately!!
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| Quote ="chissitt"Who told you the club plumber and when you see him again tell him the water pressure in the gents is too high'"
Mmmmm good plumber my mate hahaha
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| Quote ="Willzay"Who, Pinocchio?
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| Quote ="BigDog"icon_lol.gif
I'll let u off mate'"
Didn't your source also say burrow and someone else was signing?
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| Quote ="BigDog"Mmmmm good plumber my mate hahaha
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As it happens I do not have a personal choice for the position of head coach and if it is Agar then I am happy to support the club's decision to appoint him, after all they have interviewed him and must be happy with him if it happens, what I questioned your post about was the naivety of your plumbers mate's explanation as to the delay for the announcement that's all, btw when you see him again can you ask him when he's finally going to come and fit me that outside tap, thanks in anticipation, oh and can you remind him about the inadequate water pressure in the gents please.
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| Quote ="PopTart"
I wouldn't be against Agar being in charge.'"
You should be. Really, you should. If I were you, I'd be emailing the club on a daily basis and encouraging others to do the same, warning them that you will take a very dim view of them appointing Agar. He really is that bad. I know a lot of Wakey fans didn't rate Kear, but I'd have taken him over Agar every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You should be. Really, you should. If I were you, I'd be emailing the club on a daily basis and encouraging others to do the same, warning them that you will take a very dim view of them appointing Agar. He really is that bad. I know a lot of Wakey fans didn't rate Kear, but I'd have taken him over Agar every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.'"
That's what makes me doubt the critics of Agar too.
A lot of people liked Kear too but only really came out about it when the idiotic Kear out brigade got too loud.
Agar wouldn't be my first choice but I don't see him as a bad coach
No one is protesting about Goulding because it is obvious that he is not at that standard. Agar evidentially as he is doing it now. If he has made mistakes at Hull then we can only learn from that.
For me the anti-Agar group are shouting too loud to only have the clubs interests at heart. This is more of a personal thing made up of a perceived favouritism from Elston and the posts from the Hull critics that really aren't showing a balanced view.
If they interview him and he is seen to be the right man for the job, then that is what he is until proven otherwise.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You should be. Really, you should. If I were you, I'd be emailing the club on a daily basis and encouraging others to do the same, warning them that you will take a very dim view of them appointing Agar. He really is that bad. I know a lot of Wakey fans didn't rate Kear, but I'd have taken him over Agar every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.'"
We get it, you don't like or rate Richard Agar!
You're beggining to sound a little obsessed though.
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| Quote ="The Clan"We get it, you don't like or rate Richard Agar!
You're beggining to sound a little obsessed though.'"
I think it's my first post on here about him. Second, tops.
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| Quote ="PopTart"That's what makes me doubt the critics of Agar too.
A lot of people liked Kear too but only really came out about it when the idiotic Kear out brigade got too loud.
Agar wouldn't be my first choice but I don't see him as a bad coach
No one is protesting about Goulding because it is obvious that he is not at that standard. Agar evidentially as he is doing it now. If he has made mistakes at Hull then we can only learn from that.
For me the anti-Agar group are shouting too loud to only have the clubs interests at heart. This is more of a personal thing made up of a perceived favouritism from Elston and the posts from the Hull critics that really aren't showing a balanced view.
If they interview him and he is seen to be the right man for the job, then that is what he is until proven otherwise.'"
There's certainly nothing personal in it from my point of view. I've heard absolutely nothing to suggest that Agar is anything other than a thoroughly nice fella. What he isn't, however, is a remotely competent Head Coach. He's dragged our club down for nearly 4 years to the point where many fans had lost all enthusiasm for the sport.
I appreciate that you feel as though you should take a balanced view now, which is commendable. I'll check back a couple of years into his tenure and see how balanced you're all feeling then!
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| I hope we can give RA a fair crack of it. Every player and manager has a shelf life. We kept hold of JK for a season too long, possibly influenced by the franchise. Maybe HFC kept hold of AG for too long too.
If things don't work out then I really hope that AG and JE deal with things and not mess about like they have done so far.
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| Could it be that RA may be coming to be an assistant and the HC role is yet to be finalised so nothing to announce? Just cause RA is leaving Hull doesn't mean he will be HC, does it?
I am not in the know in anyway just could be another twist in the ongoings, who knows but who ever it is a clean slate should be good for all persons involved if it doesn't work out then begin to question the appointments. Simples!
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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"We kept hold of JK for a season too long, '"
To be fair to Kear, with the upheaval you had before this season started, Wayne Bennett would have struggled to do any better. You were always going to be up against it, and I don't know what Kear could have done to achieve a higher league position.
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| ive been told this morning not to rule noble out of it.at one point his wage demands seemed to have ruled him out but a local buisseness man as offered to meet the club 50/50 with his wages.dont know how reliable this is though
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| A statement will be announced confirming Wakefield's new coach in the future.
Do you think the new coach will be at the helm for round one of Super League XVIIII ?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I think it's my first post on here about him. Second, tops.'"
It's the vitriolic nature Of your posts not the quantity.
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| Quote ="The Clan"It's the vitriolic nature Of your posts not the quantity.'"
Vitriolic? You must have an odd definition of that word. I've said he's a nice bloke (no swear filter), but an incompetent head coach. If that constitutes 'vitriol' in your world, then you must be a sensitive little soul.
Look, I didn't come on here for an argument. I came here to show solidarity with fans of a club I have a degree of affection for. I genuinely hope Agar isn't appointed as your coach as I'd hate to see him do to your club what he's done to mine. If you don't like this sentiment, fair enough. But my opinions are far from vitriolic and they're far from unique. You only have to see the sheer joy his departure was greeted with on the Hull board as evidence.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I think it's my first post on here about him. Second, tops.'"
8 and counting!
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| Quote ="The Clan"8 and counting!'"
That's what happens when people respond. It's called a discussion and is kinda what these boards are here for. Never mind, you seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder about something, so I'll let you get on with it. By the way, your refusal to actually answer any of the points in my last post is duly noted.
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| Quote ="newwildcat"Didn't your source also say burrow and someone else was signing?'"
one of them did, he said burrow and obst to come back.....Obst I reckon will. Burrow will have to be a cracking offer to outweigh the testimonial. If I find out anymore will let you know asap
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| Quote ="chissitt"As it happens I do not have a personal choice for the position of head coach and if it is Agar then I am happy to support the club's decision to appoint him, after all they have interviewed him and must be happy with him if it happens, what I questioned your post about was the naivety of your plumbers mate's explanation as to the delay for the announcement that's all, btw when you see him again can you ask him when he's finally going to come and fit me that outside tap, thanks in anticipation, oh and can you remind him about the inadequate water pressure in the gents please.'"
He says he will sort it on Saturday for you
Im with you, I will support the club no matter what I just want it announced so we loads more people can stampede the club for season tickets.
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| Quote ="BigDog"one of them did, he said burrow and obst to come back.....Obst I reckon will. Burrow will have to be a cracking offer to outweigh the testimonial. If I find out anymore will let you know asap'"
Cheers - I think it's almost nailed on Obst will be back. Agree it's unlikely Burrow will come. 2 out of 3 ain't bad!
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| Quote ="Rock God X"That's what happens when people respond. It's called a discussion and is kinda what these boards are here for. Never mind, you seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder about something, so I'll let you get on with it. By the way, your refusal to actually answer any of the points in my last post is duly noted.'"
I accept you have toned the wording down a bit now. It seemed a bit full on at first.
I guess we are in different positions. You are letting a coach go that hasn't achieved what you want him to achieve
We are getting a new coach that may well bring us what we want but we don't know.
You can be negative about yours as he is being replaced.
It is important that we don't alienate our coach before he has even started
The fact that it is possibly the same guy doesn't really change that.
I have a soft spot for Hull harping back to the Topliss and Skerret days so hope you do well with new set up. I can see why Agar isn't in it, but I'm not sure it is as simple as him not being capable.
As you say time will tell.
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