Ha ha you're lucky I saw u and applied brakes

Yeah n too many times last year there were players out there who lacked the heart n commitment n look where it got us. Miller for instance has the skill and can use to max if he is relieved of the pressure of kicking for field position etc

Are you going to keep this up all next season. It's getting boring now.

Liam Finn has 12 months left on his contract hasn't he ? Unless Cas are signing a TOP half back, surely Finn's kicking game alone, is worth a few points a season. Guess he's a bit like Leigh's (our) Martin Ridyard, not the quickest, but his brain makes up for it...BIG style !

I think you are being very selective about which bits of the nutjob thread you read. I for one was very supportive when we signed Finn. He's done a fantastic job at leading us around the field and his stats speak for themselves. Maybe we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves at Cas but Gale and Roberts are a match for any halves in SL Luke Dorn is a quality replacement and if rumours of Hampshire signing are true then Finn would only get games as a replacement hooker (he's done a good job there before) He's the type of signing that an astute coach would look at, a good player that finds better players ahead of him. Please don't think I'm saying we are far in front of Wakey, we just have a glut of good halves.

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I hope the rumours are true and we have signed him.

Touch wood we will be recruiting two types of players. 1: those that add to the starting 13 I.e .pomeroy and toupu. 2: those that add to the Squad I.e. shulver and Morris.

Finn I think could fit into both categories as I think his ability to be a versatile pivot puts us in good stead ( with the potential to add maybe another 7 to the team), alternativley Id have no objections to him having the 7 shirt.

People hoping for a sidestepping, maverick, super paced 7 need to get real. Imho What this team needs is organisation and a kicking game. Finn brings that to the table as well as a sound understanding of the game in general.

This thread very much reminds me of one a few years ago on the Wigan forum, when Wigan were linked with Deacon.

Similar style of player, similar stage of his career, felt not good enough by the majority of Wigan fans (including me) and felt his time was up by Bradford fans.

He basically on his own due to his in field control, kicking game and game management turned Wigan around on his own. I don't think Finn is the same quality as Deacon was but he does have the same core style and would be a shrewd signing in my opinion for a team lacking direction.

Yeah, but he's not Cooper Cronk, which it appears some were expecting!?

So you call it a "Nut job forum" yet in the next sentence you want us to take it's opinions seriously - is there not a huge contradiction in your post?

When you look at it like that I would accept your point. However it is commonly known as that on here so I have used that 'label'
and by doing so you have clearly recognised the forum I was referring to.

We all call it the nutjob forum. Think of it a bit like Fev fans calling themselves Flatcappers.

Fair enough, but I respect though don't agree with your opinion on Finn with or without the nut jobs as back up

It remains a RL Fans phenomenon that as soon as a player is rumoured to be signing for a rival club, supporters will line up to say how crap he is; ramp that up even more when the clubs involved are local rivals, with a heightened degree of enmity.

The real story is that Finn is a steady player who improved immeasurably under Powell at Cas; he may no longer fit what they want to achieve, or they may have better, but he certainly isn't crap - and he would be a good fit for us, given our desperate need for someone to steer us around the park and finish off a set with something more than a grubber to nothing or a hail mary cut-out pass.

Signed 2 year deal,welcome back to Wakey Liam

sorry if this has been done.

Now that its official i can add my name to the list of possitives. Watching him play and listening on radio i thought he was very influential in the succesful season cas had last /this year so looking forward to seeing him in the red, white and blue.

I think that is really good news.
The team is building well.

Lets see what the cas reject squad have to say.
That's ok by me.

Can't for the life of me see where the comparison is between been called a flat capper and a nutjob


and fwiw I can't remember seeing him have a bad game for Cas in the limited times I've seen him play, lets give him a chance before being destroyed on here.

I was right! Well done me..

I think it's a good signing anyway

Quote ="bren2k"It remains a RL Fans phenomenon that as soon as a player is rumoured to be signing for a rival club, supporters will line up to say how crap he is; ramp that up even more when the clubs involved are local rivals, with a heightened degree of enmity. The real story is that Finn is a steady player who improved immeasurably under Powell at Cas; he may no longer fit what they want to achieve, or they may have better, but he certainly isn't crap - and he would be a good fit for us, given our desperate need for someone to steer us around the park and finish off a set with something more than a grubber to nothing or a hail mary cut-out pass.'" Finn's only real strength other than being a reasonable defender is his ability to end a set of 6 with a good kick with height or with distance to touch. He will very occasionally put in a deft pass near the line but nowhere near as often as Smith who was excellent at this when he could be bothered. He's especially adept at the grubber into rather than over the opposition line - something that works well for less able but more willing teams. Also has a better try scoring ratio than Smith and is a great goal kicker especially at Fev see stats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Finn_(rugby_league) Basically he won't make us look great but he'll definitely help us look better when we are having a bad game. No one on here I hope is suggesting Finn will be the player to make us a competitive top 8 team, he won't. he's workmanlike and reliable but never was or will be a world beater. But he will fill a gap and offers bags of experience whilst the squad is hopefully rebuilt, what more can you ask for. Welcome back aboard Liam.

Quote ="bren2k"It remains a RL Fans phenomenon that as soon as a player is rumoured to be signing for a rival club, supporters will line up to say how crap he is; ramp that up even more when the clubs involved are local rivals, with a heightened degree of enmity. The real story is that Finn is a steady player who improved immeasurably under Powell at Cas; he may no longer fit what they want to achieve, or they may have better, but he certainly isn't crap - and he would be a good fit for us, given our desperate need for someone to steer us around the park and finish off a set with something more than a grubber to nothing or a hail mary cut-out pass.'" Finn's only real strength other than being a reasonable defender is his ability to end a set of 6 with a good kick with height or with distance to touch. He will very occasionally put in a deft pass near the line but nowhere near as often as Smith who was excellent at this when he could be bothered. He's especially adept at the grubber into rather than over the opposition line - something that works well for less able but more willing teams. Also has a better try scoring ratio than Smith and is a great goal kicker especially at Fev see stats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Finn_(rugby_league) Basically he won't make us look great but he'll definitely help us look better when we are having a bad game. No one on here I hope is suggesting Finn will be the player to make us a competitive top 8 team, he won't. he's workmanlike and reliable but never was or will be a world beater. But he will fill a gap and offers bags of experience whilst the squad is hopefully rebuilt, what more can you ask for. Welcome back aboard Liam.

He is what we need at this moment in time a steady eddie sort of player wont set the world alight but will do a job lets not forget after what happened last season we are on the rebuild it cycle at this moment in time.

He'll do a good job for you, he's exactly the sort of player you need. Solid, reliable. Not the fastest player in the league but he's got the brains to steer you around the pitch. I wouldn't have been upset if we had offered him another contract.

Much better for you than Tim Smith, I'll say that much. Better to have a grafter.

I think we have a good pack of forwards that were undone by our own lack of a 6th tackle play rather than their fitness or ineptness.
Smith's pass was great but so often he and Miller would end a set just giving the ball up cheaply and the forwards would be back under pressure.

We now have someone with a decent chance of an attacking kick where we can either start the opposition on their line, or actually compete for the ball in the air or get a repeat set. With him in the team I think the whole team will suddenly look fitter and more energetic.
Add to that the goal kicking and leadership qualities and I think he suits us perfectly at the moment.

We can sign someone else to be the elusive runner (and to be honest Miller already has that skill). Finn just needs to keep the team ticking.

You're spot on there Poppers.

For whatever reason last years team simply stopped functioning, why we will never really know I doubt they do. It gave an excuse for the doom mongers and know alls to trot out there standard patter regarding quality, fitness and toughness - you know comments about girls blouses, that kind of thing. All good fun but a million miles from the truth.

With a few notable exceptions there wasn't much wrong with last years squad - don't recall the know all's slagging it off after the first two games.

Truth is that take away the few real superstars in the game and the difference between good and bad SL players can be measured in fractions. Good coaching, good attitude, good training and tactics and the removal of some dead wood can quickly push the fractions in your favour.

It's my belief that Webster simply wasn't able to do it and lost the team - I suspect because he simply didn't have that element in his persona that exudes positivity - leadership in other words. Comes in many forms but one thing is always the same and that's the ability to get others to buy into your philosophy. Thing with BS over poor old Webbo is that he had it in the past and seemingly still does - it will hopefully make a much bigger difference to this team than any signing will. Sometimes you just need to fix what you've got and BS is clearly already partly down that road.