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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Just digressing but I dont recall seeing programmes on sale for a while now. Didnt think anyone bought them anymore'"
Maybe there's no call for them now if people just buy a season ticket and never turn up to a game, fwiw I enter the ground through the cemetery and see them selling them on the corner opposite the back of the Con club, useless imfo for the non attenders
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| Quote ="burtonsrlfc"Yes we do still sell them. I see an short old chap walking round selling them. He shouts, 'get your programmes here, team sheets included' I have only seen him on the West tho'"
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| Quote ="vastman"Carter has a strong personality and self belief, a lot of the anonymous SMALL poster on here can’t deal with it. They claim they want strong leadership then bleat like sheep when they get a version of it they don’t like.
Despite what some chose to believe Carter does not buy the players, train them or pick them, that is the coaches job. Ditto the players, how they play is down to them.
They don’t perform then MC doesn’t have a good product to sell.
He’s a financial wizard but until the team performs he’s limited.
As for invest to accumulate you still need the cash to start with, we clearly don’t!
That said he’s a canny CEO, Although I don’t think we have a pile of cash laying around we are rather nicely placed to pick up those gems the World Cup always throws up. Three overseas players, that’s a lot of wiggle room for WP. I may have been critical of his selections and tactics but his eye for a player has been pretty good.
Could be fun next year.'"
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| I thought putting the word "fans" in inverted commas was unnecessary, because it was clearly a dig at those who moan about squad quality. I understand his frustrations but those "fans" buy tickets and merchandise. A waiter doesn't have to like the diner. They just have to pretend they do to get the repeat business.
Other than that, a good honest appraisal of where we are.
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| Quote ="PopTart"We'll have to see about Leigh but as you say, they are going to have to lose a lot of their better players.'"
Well we’ve kept the majority of the better overseas players and I think all of the non quota that we feel can be a decent squad player at worst next season.
Certainly dont need a complete overhaul that most newly promoted clubs do - Fev for example have a lot of experienced players that would need replacing
Certainly more optimistic than previous seasons, should we get promoted
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Comes round seats as well'"
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I thought putting the word "fans" in inverted commas was unnecessary, because it was clearly a dig at those who moan about squad quality. I understand his frustrations but those "fans" buy tickets and merchandise. A waiter doesn't have to like the diner. They just have to pretend they do to get the repeat business.
Other than that, a good honest appraisal of where we are.'"
Exactly this. The press release was spot on until that. I don't want us to lose more any more fans as a club or put people off attending who might not have been and I just think little things like that do have an impact and it can be easily controlled by not being daft. It's nit picking to an extent but it was such an easy thing to not do.
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| Christ. Just looked at the table. How easily could we of been competing for the top 6 with 3/4 games we lost that we shouldn’t of. Scary
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"Christ. Just looked at the table. How easily could we of been competing for the top 6 with 3/4 games we lost that we shouldn’t of. Scary'"
Very frustrating and MC makes a point about it in this release. If only the players had pulled their finger out earlier who knows where we could have ended up!
We look like two completely different sides from early in the season, seems to be a running theme with us these last few years unfortunately.
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| Quote ="charlie"Very frustrating and MC makes a point about it in this release. If only the players had pulled their finger out earlier who knows where we could have ended up!
We look like two completely different sides from early in the season, seems to be a running theme with us these last few years unfortunately.'"
Some of what you say applies but I think Willie Poching has had a change of direction as well. It's very notable -that some fringe and younger players have been used in recent games and they've let no-one down.
Perhaps some of these players in their own positions should have been tried sooner. Anyway it's good to see we do have strength in depth after all.
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| Think the main reason why we look better is ,we have had a settled three-quarters line over the last part of the season .Let's not get carried away we got some big player's leaving .We got to go after a decent half and 2 forwards .Think giving Gaskell the six shirt will be a bad mistake and will bring little to the attack.Will be the same as Hood does a job but does not move the team forward,
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| It is quite a good, and honest statement, overall, saying where we are at as a club, on the playing front.
Having read it in detail a few times, there is an air of sarcasm, though, I feel, targeting a small pocket of fans. That is ‘fans’, which I don’t think was necessary.
I was actually reading some old threads the other night, some of which Daddycool posted, and there were some comments put in there, which when you read them, there was a hint of sarcasm in the wording.
He doesn’t need to do that, and will struggle to win some people over. In fact one poster said to him, that he doesn’t help himself at times.
This for the record is not Carter bashing, its an observation, coming from years of reading correspondence
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"It is quite a good, and honest statement, overall, saying where we are at as a club, on the playing front.
Having read it in detail a few times, there is an air of sarcasm, though, I feel, targeting a small pocket of fans. That is ‘fans’, which I don’t think was necessary.
I was actually reading some old threads the other night, some of which Daddycool posted, and there were some comments put in there, which when you read them, there was a hint of sarcasm in the wording.
He doesn’t need to do that, and will struggle to win some people over. In fact one poster said to him, that he doesn’t help himself at times.
This for the record is not Carter bashing, its an observation, coming from years of reading correspondence'"
He's off social media now and rightly so and I think you have a point, it was never going to work, it didn't for Diane Rogerson or Shane McNally to name but a few..
However the reference in his statement is nothing and people reading anything into it are a bit precious IMHO. Also you need to remember that only a very small number of Trinity fans use this forum and his Daddycool stuff won't be relevant to them.
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Does it say anything we don't already know, as I can't open this link on my phone
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"Does it say anything we don't already know, as I can't open this link on my phone'"
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"Does it say anything we don't already know, as I can't open this link on my phone'"
No. Its all quotes from other stuff.
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| Quote ="PopTart"No. Its all quotes from other stuff.'"
I Don’t Think I’ve seen MC mention this before
Carter confirmed Wakefield want to seal a permanent deal for Hull fullback Jamie Shaul, who has been on loan.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Quote ="PopTart"No. Its all quotes from other stuff.'"
I Don’t Think I’ve seen MC mention this before
Carter confirmed Wakefield want to seal a permanent deal for Hull fullback Jamie Shaul, who has been on loan.'"
That’s last weeks news. Hopefully some signing news coming over next few weeks.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"That’s last weeks news. Hopefully some signing news coming over next few weeks.'"
Yes. I've seen the Shaul thing before from both MC and Willie.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I Don’t Think I’ve seen MC mention this before
Carter confirmed Wakefield want to seal a permanent deal for Hull fullback Jamie Shaul, who has been on loan.'"
Its mentioned in the statement that this very thread is about
He's been very good for us, hope we can get the deal done. He also looks like he enjoys playing here too.
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| Quote ="charlie"Its mentioned in the statement that this very thread is about
He's been very good for us, hope we can get the deal done. He also looks like he enjoys playing here too.'"
He has been good but so has Jowitt. For me he’s not a necessery signing and we certainly need other positions first as a priority.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"He has been good but so has Jowitt. For me he’s not a necessery signing and we certainly need other positions first as a priority.'"
What other full-back do we have if we don't sign JS?
Another FB is a necessity for me.
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| Quote ="phe13"What other full-back do we have if we don't sign JS?
Another FB is a necessity for me.'"
Only 1 full back plays in a 17. What we do need is cover but I would say Gaskell offers that cover. We have Hall/Lyne as centre next season starting. There are options.
Shaul probably won’t come cheap and I’d be tempted to look at a cover player who can cover halfs and fullback if needed (possibly promote Butterworth who I think can cover both).
I’m not saying Shaul is bad. He’s played well with us but I’m not sure it’s a necessary signing they’d all.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Only 1 full back plays in a 17. What we do need is cover but I would say Gaskell offers that cover. We have Hall/Lyne as centre next season starting. There are options.
Shaul probably won’t come cheap and I’d be tempted to look at a cover player who can cover halfs and fullback if needed (possibly promote Butterworth who I think can cover both).
I’m not saying Shaul is bad. He’s played well with us but I’m not sure it’s a necessary signing they’d all.'"
I do get the point but this kind of decision is what separates fighting for relegation with fighting for top 6.
When a player is injured we need to bring in someone who can also play at that level.
Personally, I like Shaul enough that he is starting no.1 over Max.
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