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| Quote ="marc271841"So the loan is completely insignificant to Leeds and they have already decided that they will / won't be offering him a contract?'"
Leeds have been shopping round this week for some emergency cover. Aydin is the best we could offer and of acceptable experience and quality for Leeds at this moment in time. This is the reason he is now on loan. Anything else is pointless conjecture.
Helping Leeds helps Wakefield Trinity at this moment in time.
I rest my case.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"If your using a car as an example then we’ve had that car parked up in our car park for the last few years. We’ve had plenty of time to inspect and purchase it but for whatever reason haven’t.
We can also just let it sit in the parking lot and rot or get some money renting it out.
I don’t see much risk because I don’t value Aydin contributions to the squad as that high. I would much rather us invest in Eseh and possibly Shaw.'"
OK let's keep this really simple.
Do you 100% believe that Leeds will not use this loan to take a good detailed look at this player? Do you honestly believe there is no element of try before you buy involved in this?
Even if 1% of you believes otherwise then you accept there is an element of risk associated with the loan.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Leeds have been shopping round this week for some emergency cover. Aydin is the best we could offer and of acceptable experience and quality for Leeds at this moment in time. This is the reason he is now on loan. Anything else is pointless conjecture.
Helping Leeds helps Wakefield Trinity at this moment in time.
I rest my case.'"
I don't care why he's on loan.
See my earlier question.
Is there absolutely no risk involved in the loan? My original post was that there is an element around the loan that makes me nervous. You've said nothing to convince me that Leeds will be not using this as an opportunity to assess if the player is a good option for next year.
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| Quote ="marc271841"OK let's keep this really simple.
Do you 100% believe that Leeds will not use this loan to take a good detailed look at this player? Do you honestly believe there is no element of try before you buy involved in this?
Even if 1% of you believes otherwise then you accept there is an element of risk associated with the loan.'"
I don’t care because I don’t value Aydin as an indispensable member of the squad. Of course Leeds will have a look as will we, but I’ve already answered this multiple times on what may or may not happen and now I’m bored.
Why your nervous I have no idea. Should Aydin leave or we not offer him a contract it’s a drop in the ocean and won’t be a big loss.
It’s just guessing scenarios now when in reality it’s a two week loan that benefits all parties in some way. That’s all there is too it. Just wait and see what happens.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I don’t care because I don’t value Aydin as an indispensable member of the squad. Of course Leeds will have a look as will we, but I’ve already answered this multiple times on what may or may not happen and now I’m bored.
Why your nervous I have no idea. Should Aydin leave or we not offer him a contract it’s a drop in the ocean and won’t be a big loss.
It’s just guessing scenarios now when in reality it’s a two week loan that benefits all parties in some way. That’s all there is too it. Just wait and see what happens.'"
Why you couldn't have accepted that Leeds will be taking a look from the off is completely beyond me.
As I have previously said it may well come to nothing. Let's see eh..
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| Quote ="marc271841"Why you couldn't have accepted that Leeds will be taking a look from the off is completely beyond me.
As I have previously said it may well come to nothing. Let's see eh..'"
Why would I need to accept something that quite frankly is just common sense. How could Leeds not look at him when he’s training with and playing for them on loan, and if you actually read my previous posts you’d have noticed I had acknowledged that. The two go hand in hand. If it makes you feel better feel better then crack on.
The only time I’ll be bothered is if trinity sign him. If we don’t he can go where he likes and I won’t bat an eyelid. Have a good night.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Why would I need to accept something that quite frankly is just common sense. How could Leeds not look at him when he’s training with and playing for them on loan, and if you actually read my previous posts you’d have noticed I had acknowledged that. The two go hand in hand. If it makes you feel better feel better then crack on.
The only time I’ll be bothered is if trinity sign him. If we don’t he can go where he likes and I won’t bat an eyelid.
But yet you claim in your posts that there is nothing in the loan and we have / haven't offered contracts and there was nothing but wins all round. I'm not sure if it really was that obvious otherwise you wouldn't have got yourself into such a tizz. Maybe have a glass of wine eh?
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| I think Leeds will be lucky to get two points regardless of loan when you look at who is missing. Austin . Sezar. Prior. Tetavano. Newman. Leeming and maybe Hardaker. Toulouse will be rubbing their hands i think.
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| We are also playing a team not at full strength so we should be able to use this to our advantage, plus we will know the Toulouse score.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We are also playing a team not at full strength so we should be able to use this to our advantage, plus we will know the Toulouse score.'"
I reckon we also like every team in the competition, including Saints, are currently putting out a weakened side.
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| Quote ="marc271841"
Okay, enjoy your night.
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| Sums it up perfectly Marc. Did you write it?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Sums it up perfectly Marc. Did you write it?
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One things for sure you didn't write it.
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| Quote ="marc271841"One things for sure you didn't write it.'"
You are correct.
I was actually being genuine. I thought you explained it perfectly the first time. I wasn't being sarcastic.
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| I'm not losing any sleep over this one.
If Aydin has outstanding games for the Rhinos you'd have to be asking why he didn't do it for us, because so far he's been mediocre, as you'd probably expect from a young prop learning his trade.
As I see it, we have had all the time needed to sign this lad on a longer contract, IF it was felt he will go on and make it. So either the opinion is that there isn't a strong enough case to do that, or something has been offered but rejected.
If he hadn't gone to Leeds on loan, would he feature in this weeks starting 17 or even the squad? I doubt it so that speaks volumes to me.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You are correct.
I was actually being genuine. I thought you explained it perfectly the first time. I wasn't being sarcastic.'"
In that case I'm genuinely sorry. I misinterpreted your post.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"I'm not losing any sleep over this one.
If Aydin has outstanding games for the Rhinos you'd have to be asking why he didn't do it for us, because so far he's been =#FF0000mediocre, as you'd probably expect from a young prop learning his trade.
As I see it, we have had all the time needed to sign this lad on a longer contract, IF it was felt he will go on and make it. So either the opinion is that there isn't a strong enough case to do that, or something has been offered but rejected.
If he hadn't gone to Leeds on loan, would he feature in this weeks starting 17 or even the squad? I doubt it so that speaks volumes to me.'"
Agree with everything you've said apart from the word I've highlighted.
Think thats unfair compared to some of them who have played in front of him.
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| Quote ="marc271841"In that case I'm genuinely sorry. I misinterpreted your post.'"
Easy done
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| You don't do all the publicity shots he's done flashing the shirt or some of the quotes hes made on a 2 week loan.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"You don't do all the publicity shots he's done flashing the shirt or some of the quotes hes made on a 2 week loan.'"
Why not, we do.
2 + 2 = 5
There is every chance Aydin may leave at the end of his contract. Where he goes who knows but why this sis being seen as some wicked pre-strike by Leeds is silly. If he's on Leeds radar then this won't make a jot of difference. If there is some looming deal in the background between the clubs who knows, but if there is that will happen regardless.
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| Quote ="vastman"Why not, we do.
2 + 2 = 5
There is every chance Aydin may leave at the end of his contract. Where he goes who knows but why this sis being seen as some wicked pre-strike by Leeds is silly. If he's on Leeds radar then this won't make a jot of difference. If there is some looming deal in the background between the clubs who knows, but if there is that will happen regardless.'"
Hey! I agree with you, it just seems totally over the top for a 2 week loan deal.
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| Quote ="vastman"Why not, we do.
2 + 2 = 5
There is every chance Aydin may leave at the end of his contract. Where he goes who knows but why this sis being seen as some wicked pre-strike by Leeds is silly. If he's on Leeds radar then this won't make a jot of difference. If there is some looming deal in the background between the clubs who knows, but if there is that will happen regardless.'"
It's not a wicked strike. It is savy though. What will be will be. It might make zero difference at all and he might sign for Bradford....
Or he signs for Leeds and plays for England in a few years time. But who cares.
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| Aydin is a young prop just making his way in the game and steadily going about his business.IMO he hasn't let anyone down during his limited game time,but also hasn't really had a stand-out game.It could be a big game for him one way or another against TO,so good luck to the lad and I hope he gets stuck in to em.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Hey! I agree with you, it just seems totally over the top for a 2 week loan deal.'"
Nah, there was a time when RL news was as rare as rocking horse poop, but now its everywhere with loads of column inches to fill. Whilst clubs are more than happy to play along.
We had Josh Eaves last year from Saints and we did the same, whilst Escare's guest appearance was treated as a second coming if you recall. Neither are currently on our books.
I think this is all part of the Trinity inferiority complex, where instead of being pleased that our youngsters are in demand we see everything as a threat.
I'm not saying Aydin won't end up at Leeds or anywhere else, he might. But we are still just about in the big boy SL and this is how it works, we will win some and we will lose some but it shouldn't stop us doing something with a player just because we are scared.
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